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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:29 AM
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ABC and Disney Have Apparently Decided To Go Ahead With Path to 9-11
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 09:32 AM by kpete
“We have out CIA consultants and Clinton has his. It’s kind of a ‘he said, she said’ situation right now,” Cunningham said.

Cunningham added that “the talk of ABC possibly pulling the show ‘is just a rumor right now.’”
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/09/director-defends-accuracy/


ABC Stands By Its 9/11 Story — Almost
After minor edits in response to Democratic critics, the miniseries will air as scheduled. It's already set off a bitter election-year dispute.

By Scott Collins and Tina Daunt, Times Staff Writers

Walt Disney Co.'s ABC is forging ahead with plans to air a miniseries starting Sunday despite controversy over its efforts to dramatize — and some say unfairly politicize — the events leading up to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Producers said late Friday that they had finished making minor edits to "The Path to 9/11" amid a firestorm of protests from leading Democrats including Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, who warned that telecasting "right-wing political propaganda" might violate the terms of ABC's government-mandated broadcast license.

Critics say that, among other things, the film fabricates scenes and unfairly blames the Clinton administration for failing to capture or kill Osama bin Laden. The network, for its part, has urged critics to withhold judgment until the final version airs.

Whatever viewers ultimately see, it's clear that the five-hour $40-million docudrama, highlighting years of intelligence failures and political bickering before the attacks, has detonated an election-year bomb that's reverberating from Hollywood to Capitol Hill.

more at:
http://www.calendarlive.com/tv/cl-et-path9sep09,0,2124244.story?coll=la-home-headlines
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:30 AM
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1. thanks for keeping on top of this kpete - maddening news though
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:31 AM
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2. Good. The gauntlet's been thrown down. Let's see what happens.
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 09:39 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
Edited to add: It will be interesting to watch ABC/Disney try to manage this situation while under a pervasive cloud of B.S.

MKJ
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:32 AM
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3. I'm to the point where I don't care. Show it and get it over with, and
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 09:33 AM by babylonsister
then let the lawsuits fly.
Edit to add: I just hope this isn't a ratings boon to ABC. I know I will not be watching.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 06:57 PM
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32. Will there be lawsuits? Did Clinton sue the authors of these lies when
they first popped up?
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:36 AM
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Controversy should be about what they LEFT OUT, not what they TOOK OUT
I doubt it includes My Pet Goat, *'s one month vacation, who profited in the days before/right after 911, why did Bush refuse to testify?, the mock training exercises, why we let Saudi's in with obviously fraudulant passports, etc. the list goes on and on....
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:36 AM
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4. Ah, they've come to 'Phase II' of the 'Catapulting Propaganda Plan'.
This is where they make their weak unsupported hogwash seem credible by pairing
it with the truth.

They do the same thing with other arguments and candidates. It's an attempt to make
their story plausible without actually producing any evidence.

PATH TO 9/11 IS A LIE!

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:37 AM
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5. Fugg this
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 09:43 AM by malaise
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:DqO4S8YxL75cZM:>
Mikey Mouse history
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:38 AM
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6. By showing it and then, possibly retracting certain portions...
...it will be too late, as the "idea" will be set within the minds of the voters. That's all they ever want to do...plant the seed so voters will doubt the abilities of the Dems to lead the nation and stay with their "leader" come hell or high water. We've seen both of those.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:42 AM
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10. Well, they've been planting those seeds for 5 years. I think they've
maxed out the potential fields.

They are now doing an "in your face" desperation move, which may sway a few more.

However, the dialog is going start and I hope we're all prepared to point out the propaganda glorification of gwb.

Not enough lipstick in the world for that pig. MKJ
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:44 AM
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12. That's why they used a 'throw-away' director and a 'throw-away' production
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 09:46 AM by Prag
company UHP.

As soon as this steaming pile has left the shoot... The nasties these fools
serve will cut them loose and run. Their purpose has been served.

Here, I cite what they did to the Swift Boat Idiots and Gannon/Guckert as evidence.

It's a shame this moran doesn't see he's being used... Along with all of the
Teachers who use Scholastic products all across the US.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:38 AM
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7. As always , there are two sides to a story...
there's the truth...
then there's the republican version
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:58 AM
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15. That arrogant bastard is pairing himself with Bill Clinton...
Pretty much sums up their mind set.

Why isn't he in Iraq, BTW?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:39 AM
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8. Well, then... I guess I'll go ahead with my abandonment of anything...
Disney, Scholastic, ABC, Touchstone, Apple, or anything else associated with this filth.

Where's that Buy Blue guy? I've got some research to do.
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:34 PM
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20. ...gulp..."Apple"? n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:40 AM
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9. Contact the FCC - takes 5 seconds:
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:42 AM
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11. ABC is Dead to me! eom
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:47 AM
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13. SOMEBODY PLEASE SUE--then we can have an investigation of 9/11
at long last
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:58 AM
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16. Seconded.
It's way past time for an investigation.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:44 PM
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23. ***PLEASE call your local ABC affiliates***
You know you've always wanted to put the fear of God into these people.

You have an opportunity to do it today.

Go, DU!

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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:57 AM
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14. Let ABC Show Its True Self To The Country.
Let the network of Frank Reynolds and Jules Bergman and the King Speech coverage of August 1963 race CBS to the bottom and see if I give Shit One. Fuck 'em both right up the anal opening of their ever-decreasing RATINGS!

LET these apologists drink the kool-aid and show this pack of lies in prime time WITH bu$hler's little rahrah insert in the bygod MIDDLE of of it. See if it does the LEAST bit of good in a country that has written the Worthless Little Fuck right off. Even the Southern Republican Women have given up on his sorry ass. How much of a LOSER do you have to BE to alienate the Surrendered Wives??????

The Path To 9/11 MIGHT WELL start people talking about all the answers we STILL DON'T HAVE about September Eleventh, 2001.

PLEASE, ABC, don't throw us in dat ole brier patch!

:evilgrin:
dbt
Remember New Orleans
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:55 PM
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28. Oh God LOL.
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 04:55 PM by Jim4Wes
That was hilarious.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 10:01 AM
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17. bt because of dems it will now be looked at for lies. where are the
lies. people wont even be watching for the bin laden/clinton message, they will be looking for lies. it wasnt that way prior to du and all the others that started yelling. we did a good job. NOW the journalists and the people will be made aware it is a right wing project. i think this is why the conservatives are now wanting it off the air. NOW they know people are going to look at it not from sheep eyes, but a totally propaganda film, different perspective than it was meant to be seen
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 10:04 AM
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18. Good...Let This Bring Us Further Together...
First...given the option of watching Sunday Night Football, the new season of The Simpsons (who ever thought Faux would be a worthwhile viewing alternative???), the Sopranos on HBO and dozens of other choices only those who really really care about this crap will watch...and that won't be many people I know.

Second...this will be 4 hours with no commercial interuptions...no potty breaks and from what I can see a very tedious and ordinary production. This isn't Saving Private Ryan or any movie that will live beyond its controversy. Anyone who sits through all this crap deserves a lifetime supply of kool-aid.

Third...I like seeing the fire in people's belly this thing has set up. Now let's take that energy and put it to some real use. Instead of sitting in front of the tube this weekend, get involved. If you're not already volunteered with a local campaign...do it NOW!!! If you are involved, go out and canvass, make the calls, update the voter rolls...take that energy and turn it into Democratic votes...there's precious time left and the sweetest revenge to ABC will be best serve cold...a Democrat controlled House & Senate.

Cheers...
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 10:56 AM
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19. "Anyone who sits through all this crap deserves a lifetime supply of kool-
aid"

LOL, :rofl: Indeed. MKJ

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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:38 PM
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21. I knew this morning that was the case
I saw that there was next to nothing on this story this morning. I saw how quick it was dropped from the MSM newspapers and websites. I knew it was going to run... They have invested too much money, time, politics, and power to not run this piece of shit show.....
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:42 PM
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22. Swift Boat Part II: "he said she said"
Remember that was EXACTLY what the media said about the Swift Boat Liars. But this time, there is irrefutable evidence in the book the 9/11 Commission that they're making stuff up in the film. So another words, even had someone videoed John Kerry's ENTIRE tour of duty in Vietnam, it would still be "he said, he said". No evidence is enough apparently. Respect for the truth is dead.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:44 PM
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24. ABC will be forever tarnished by this decision
It's now on par with FOX in my book.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:47 PM
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25. From Now On, ABC Should Always Be Referred To As "Fox Jr."
n/t
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:52 PM
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26. ABC? DISNEY? Never heard of them. n/t
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:53 PM
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27. Oh, it gets worse. Read this
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:09 PM
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30. That scene is gone b4 tomorrow guaranteed.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:55 PM
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29. the clips that have already been shown look lousy
The camera work--that cheesy, faux-realistic bobbing hand-held style--got hella annoying after about 30 seconds.

Seriously, anybody with a tendency toward motion sickness will switch channels in no time. And anybody with better things to do will soon follow.

I'd be more concerned if this were a well-made, entertaining movie, but I'm thinking that ABC will get hit with the triple whammy of low ratings, a boycott, AND lawsuits.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 06:26 PM
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31. Let the cowards in the CIA who back this story come out in the open
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