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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 10:59 AM
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Great - Padded Bras for 6 Year olds.
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 11:09 AM by leftyladyfrommo
This kind of stuff makes me sick.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20380241-1243,00.html

Stores in Australia are selling padded bras for children as young as six - tiny little lingerie sets of bras and "knickers" for little girls.

Parents are being warned that they may just be baiting pedophiles.

And what is with this dressing young girls up as raunchy women.

I guess I am just an old foogy - but this is sick.

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:00 AM
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1. A free CPS referral with every purchase!
Jesus, and I thought thongs for toddlers were bad :puke:
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:09 AM
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10. thongs for toddlers? Jeesh.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:15 AM
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19. I saw them at Penney's a few years back
Starting in a 3 or 4T, if I recall. I asked the saleslady what the hell they were thinking and she told me it was because regular underwear would show under those little hip hugger pants that were the fashion at the time. It seems to me that's a good argument for not selling hip huggers for girls a decade away from having hips, not one for selling them ass-floss to go under thier too-small pants.

Shit like this makes me very glad my child is a boy. At least I don't have to worry about finding clothes that don't make him look like the world's smallest sexworker, something my friends with girls really seem to struggle with.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:00 AM
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2. Ya know what most pedophiles say?
They were flirting with me.


SICK SICK SICK
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:15 PM
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33. yes they do.
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CarlVK Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:56 PM
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65. "Proud to be GOP"?
*snicker*

Seriously though, I've seen one or two studies that demonstrated most pedophiles are straight white heterosexual Christian males.

Draw political orientation demographics from that one as you will.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:01 AM
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3. With Scholastic handing out packs of cigarettes to kids here in the U.S.
Is nothing sacred?
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:01 AM
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4. You're not an old foogy - this is sick.
With garbage like this is there any wonder why so many kids grow up with warped body images and expecations.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:02 AM
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5. No story at link
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:04 AM
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7. I can't get the link to work - and I think I have all the numbers right.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:05 AM
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8. Try this one:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:21 AM
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27. "The idea of the padding is for girls to be discreet as they develop,"


......Bratz distributor Funtastic defended the range.

"The idea of the padding is for girls to be discreet as they develop," a spokeswoman said.

"It is more about hiding what you have got than showing it off. It is certainly not there to make children look like they have breasts."

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:22 AM
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28. Targets response is just as insane:


......Target also stood by the underwear range. It provided "fashionable items that give girls modesty and style as they go through development changes", a spokeswoman said.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:04 AM
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6. OMG. My seven year old daughter doesn't have a bra at all.
Is the damage I've done to her repairable?
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:05 AM
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9. That is disgusting.
What the hell sort of parent would buy that for their kid? Ugh...I don't care if a girl in HS is wearing a padded bra, but a freaking kindergardener that is quite possibly the most fucking up thing I've heard in a long time.

That's just like saying, "here pedophile, come check out my kid," and it seriously makes me question if there is abuse in the kid's home.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:10 AM
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11. Next thing you know, little boys will be sticking flashlights down
their pants.

Oh, well, I don't shop at Target anyway. Guess I won't start. Pervs.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:12 AM
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13. We need a new Gloria Steinem.
Girls are just being turned back into sex objects. I thought we had moved beyond this - but we haven't.

I did see where Madrid is not allowing some models on the runway because they are too thin. That might be a start in the right direction.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:14 AM
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16. Yeah, now if they only stopped using teenage models, too.
And so the pedophilia continues.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 12:19 PM
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69. now you're asking too much!
as a former assistant to a model, I was astounded at the amount of young female models there are. It's disturbing. And they primp themselves to look 28, when they're nearly half that age.

the padded bra thing???? I can see them at churches already! LOL... this is some sick shit.. welcome to our new world of sexualizing the smallest of children now.


FUCKED UP SHIT!
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:27 AM
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30. Better yet, why not padded briefs?
What's good for the goose should be good for the gander. Oh, I forgot. Boys will be boys. Girls will be miniature hookers. :mad:

If adults didn't buy this crap for their kids, the stores would stop selling it.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:11 AM
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12. "The idea of the padding is for girls to be discreet as they develop,"
Huh??? Six year old girs are not developing!!! What kind of an idiot is that woman?
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:13 AM
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14. It's just another way to make money - another way to fleece the
stupid people out there.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:15 AM
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18. I've begun making clothing for my little granddaughters because
my daughter complained that she had difficulty finding affordable clothing for them that wasn't "hootchie mama" stuff.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:45 AM
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31. Good for you. My daughter is 18, and I struggled to find unisex
clothing that didn't have crap all over the front of it. It was tough. I bought boys clothes that worked, shopped online at Hannah Andersen. Girls clothing made me sick -- so nothing has changed, only the clothing has gotten trashier!
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:15 AM
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20. Yeah, boobs to your knees when you are six are not as big as boobs
to your knees when you are 20? WFT?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:21 AM
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25. Any 6 year old who starts showing breast development doesn't need
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 11:23 AM by LeftyMom
a bra, she needs a trip to the doctor and likely a much improved diet (high fat diets and use of hormones in consumed animal tissues can lead to precocious puberty and other hormonal abnormalities.) Premature development like that is a grave cause for concern and a real risk to a girl's future health, but while more common than in the past it's still pretty rare.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:18 PM
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40. I've seen 6 y/old who might have used a bralette, but
they were overweight, not in puberty.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:21 AM
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26. I don't know about sizing in Austrailia
If a girl's size 6 is a size 6 here.
Generally though, girls who develop early are bigger and would wear bigger sizes. Some small and average sized girls do start getting breasts around ages 8-10 but breasts development does occurr in stages. Girls that age don't get pronounced nipples, a problem that the padded bras might help with, like girls in their teens. Most self conscious early bloomers that I knew wore sports bras and/or baggier shirts. I would think that a padded bra would just make the breasts more evident.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:18 PM
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41. Thank you voice of reason. Pls see post 37.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:16 PM
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38. 9 y/olds are.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:13 AM
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15. What will that mean 10 years from now when I get them in HS?
Padded bras for 6 year olds??? Who is buying them?

I teach HS and I am so sick of the Paris Hilton look! I dress coded a girl yesterday for it -- and when the asst. principal called the girl's mom, the mom found out the girl had changed clothes after leaving home that morning. Mom was not amused.

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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:14 AM
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17. No, you're not an old foggy. This IS sick.
One would think we've made "progress" over the past decade or two? I guess not.
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ryan_cats Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:18 AM
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21. I'm sure Jon Benet's parents would buy this
I'm sure Jon Benet's parents would buy this.

Many years ago a friend of mine put on a haunted house for charity. We went to a store to get costumes and I noticed that they had a French Maid's outfit, for a nine year old. Disgusting.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:20 AM
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22. Funny - that same thing crossed my mind, too.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:21 AM
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23. why is it?
The first thing that came to my mind when I read this subject title was JonBenet Ramsey, the beauty queen that never really was. Or was she?

And we wonder WHY? :grr:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:21 AM
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24. Bratz distributor Funtastic defended the range.
"The idea of the padding is for girls to be discreet as they develop," a spokeswoman said.

"It is more about hiding what you have got than showing it off. It is certainly not there to make children look like they have breasts."


That makes no sense at all to me.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:20 PM
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42. see post 37 & you will get a diff perspective
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 11:27 AM
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29. Is one of the unintended consequences of this...
if a little girl wearing something like this or the thongs for toddlers that I've read about, is sexually molested, the jury will find she was "asking for it" because she was wearing "provocative" underwear? Or as one judge said of an 8 year old girl who had been raped, "she was 'sexually mature' for her age".



:puke:

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:06 PM
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32. You're not an old fogey -- I think this is sick
Little girls aren't miniature women... this is bad for many different reasons...
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:32 PM
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34. And, when they turn 11 or 12, and need a first bra, they are all
underwired and the style that present "them" on a tray! Argh! Even the girls themselves don't like them! (It's embarassing, mom...)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:36 PM
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35. I know a ten year old who is begging her mother for thongs
She doesn't want to wear bikini underpants -- thinks they are too old-fashioned. Lord almighty. She's always wanting to look 35. Why a beautiful young girl would want to look 35 is beyond me.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 12:52 PM
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36. somewhere out there
chester the molester is reading this story and drooling
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:15 PM
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37. HERE's a photo, get a grip folks...


As the mom of 2 girls, 12 & 10, who have inherited some recessive chest gene from...well, not me, obviously...this looks like a good idea. It's this or sports bras, people, and sports bras in the cold or when wet...not so good.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:17 PM
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39. A 10 & a 12 year old is one thing, but to market for
6 year olds is quite another.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:21 PM
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43. Obese 6 year olds need some coverage. Not due to puberty, but
well...look around sometime. They do.

This is america where childhood obesity is epidemic.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:21 PM
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47. So they stuff a bra? How does that help obese kids?
Can't they at least let mom decide if her 6 year old should get some kleenex in the bra? Can't mom decide these things?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:30 PM
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50. Rex, do you have womanly breasts? Doubt it. If you had, you'd
understand. Look at the photo in #37. It's not a pushup bra.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:31 PM
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57. I was a fat kid who didn't develop till 11
And some skinny girls my age developed before me. If a fat little girl looks developed then something else is going on besides fat.
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #37
44. I doubt too many 12 year olds
Are still playing with Bratz dolls. That definitely looks marketed to younger girls.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:14 PM
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45. Unfortunately they are. Thjank jah my girls play w/ Bratz BOY dolls
(not sleazy at all, go figure) they've never wanted Bratz girls because, quote: "they're Sloozies! Euuuuw"
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #37
51. Why should little girls be ashamed of their nipples? Also, what
happened to undershirts?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:44 PM
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54. Excluding this brand
I've seen other ones styled such as the one above at Sears that were a size 6x. Since I have actual first hand knowledge of those I'll refer to them.

If I get your point it's that once a young girl hits puberty (which does happen younger and younger) she needs the padding to hide her nipples. Yes? No?

Even still, a size 6x? My daughter was out of that size before she turned 7 years old. Is what you're telling me that there's enough children that young (and still that small of stature) going through puberty to create a market for this item? If so, that can't be healthy!

As for your girls, I know from experience that it's very possible for a young girl of 10 or 12 to need the added protection that the item above can provide. I don't doubt you one bit.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:35 PM
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58. Complete with brand logo of something that was heavily pushed.
And now it's on something being heavily pushed up...

Pathetic.

It's not meant to hide a guy by any chance? I've seen 6 year olds with guts... :( and their dumb parents.

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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #37
61. A picture speaks a thousand words
And none of them were found in this thread!

What's the big deal?

:shrug:

It doesn't look too much different than the bra portions of the camisoles my mom used to make me wear for modesty's sake.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:50 PM
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62. It reminds me of my first bra
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 05:52 PM by tammywammy
Well, without the padding and wire. Mine was a plain white thing that my mom foisted on me when I was 11.

I don't think I would have minded something like this when I was younger. The padding would have maybe helped me feel less self conscience. I mean, the bras I had when I was that little was just a thin piece of cotton.

edited to add: I don't think it's right if they're marketing this for a 6 year old, but for a child 10-12 when they're first developing, I can see it. I don't like the excessive commercialization that's forced on children these days, but in reality, if I was 10-12 I may like something that's a little thicker and concealing.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:47 AM
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66. I feel the same
I was very modest. That's not the same as being ashamed of your body.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #62
70. My first real bra
that I finally did get, as promised, in the fifth grade was a little stretchy kind of cross-your-heart thing.

And the bra shopping - ugh!

"It's pointy!" I complained. They were all pointy. My mom still teases me about that. I never told her about the swimsuit top.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 12:10 PM
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68. That looks like a great bra for 10-12 year olds ...
but 6? I see something that looks enough like a real grown-up bra and yet not enough like a real grown-up bra that a lot of moms would have a hard time resisting their girls' claims that they really really need it.

I'm so glad I had a boy. But hey, thanks for taking me back to my fourth-grade bra trauma. My mom wouldn't let me have one until the fifth grade (because she had all these age-driven rules), but I felt I needed a bra. Looking back as a mother, I'd have been more flexible.

Anyway, in the midst of this bra war with my mother, her sister gave me the only hand-me-downs I ever got: a box of clothes from her two daughters - the oldest of whom, incidentally, had created the nickname Neebob. And what should this box contain but a white cotton eyelet bikini.

Can you say, "unfortunate timing"?

This was 1969, so it wasn't a teeny-weeny bikini but a pretty substantial one, with wide straps and a U-neckline. It was made of crispy, heavily embroidered cotton eyelet, with bright green ribbon trim and a ruffle along the bottom of the top. But it was mostly white and resembled a bra (I thought), and you can guess the rest.

I cut the ruffle off but left the green ribbon, wore this bulky thing under my shirt and tried to pass it off as a bra.

Well, some of my so-called friends didn't buy it and summoned this rude fifth grader named Debbie to examine me.

"Let's see your dumb bra," she said. I was mercilessly thrashed and never wore my dumb bra again.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:17 PM
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46. No to old foogy, yes to this is sick.
Why can't kids be kids? When did this change?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:22 PM
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48. I have 3 boys
(thought I wanted 3 girls)..anyway

I went shopping with my friend who had daughters one day, and OH MY GOD.. Now this was quite a few years ago, so this stuff is not new..

I about flipped out when I saw leopard print bra & pantie sets in a size 6X.. and this was JC Penney, not Victoria's Secret.. They also had "fashion wigs" for little girls..

they also had "personal grooming" sets too..with nail polish & lip gloss..

These were in the CHILDREN's section..

I was stunned to see the change in the way small girls were starting to de dressed.. These are children who do not yet pick out their own clothes, so it's the Moms who should get a reality check..

My friend had to search quite a bit to find "real" clothes...clothes that were suitable for playing in the dirt, riding bikes, and of course for school..

So while I lamented how boring little boys' clothes are, I was secretly glad that I did not have to worry about dressing girls :)



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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:25 PM
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49. The personal grooming sets are nothing new.
They had those for little girls when I was a kid and I'm in my 20s now. I remember actually having a She-Ra makeup set with perfume, lip gloss and nailpolish. A lot of the other stuff they have out for little girls now freaks me out, but the makeup stuff has been around for a long time.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:36 PM
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52. I know they have been around for a while, BUT
they used to be markets as "dress up PLAY" sets.. These days, I fear they are marketed as something to be used daily,,"just like Mommy"..

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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:38 PM
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53. I used to beg my mom for those little sets
I'm 26 now. I wasn't a really frilly girl either. But I loved them. They had little faries on them, I think. And it would be a lip gloss set or something similar, maybe nail polish. It was clearly marketed towards dress up play.

The closed today freak me out.

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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 12:35 PM
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71. Yeah, be glad for the pants on the brink
of falling down, because that's the only real clothing issue for parents of boys. I just go, "Fine - if it doesn't bother you that everyone can see your shorts and it feels okay to have your pants hanging on the edge of your butt and the crotch down to your knees, you go."
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 04:51 PM
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55. Is this an enhancer or a concealer?
That makes all the difference.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:02 PM
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56. Check post #37 for a picture
It looks more like a concealer to me. :shrug:
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:39 PM
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60. I can't tell from the picture because I know next to nothing
About brassiere engineering.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:35 PM
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59. What happened to letting kids be kids?
This is just unreal.

L-
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:52 PM
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63. As a man I do have to say I'm sorry ,We invented the currency !
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CarlVK Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 05:54 PM
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64. How about viagra for 6 year old boys now?
Come on we're on a roll! Don't stop now!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 10:49 AM
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67. I know young girls are developing earlier, but this is ridiculous
Why not a padded bra for an infant, it is just as ludicrous as this idea.....
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