Just another day, another step towards our Police State...

[file83]

The United States now collects the prints of only the two index fingers of foreign visitors. But it will gather prints of all their fingers and thumbs by the end of 2008, Michael Chertoff, the secretary of Homeland Security, said.

"We will be able to run everybody's fingerprints against latent fingerprints that we are collecting all over the world in terrorist safe houses, off of bomb fragments that terrorists build, or in battlefields where terrorists wage war," Chertoff said in a speech at Georgetown University.

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As long as they have "terror" working for them, terror will never go away.

[insanerepubs]

1. How is

...collecting fingerprints of foreign visitors a "police state"? Are you saying we don't have the right as a nation to know who is entering and leaving the country?

[file83]

2. Do you not see beyond this? I just said it was a step towards

our Police State - not the Police State itself.

You have a belief that they are doing this for our "security". It's only foreigners, you say.

I have a different belief based on history, both ancient and recent. Don't you see the incrementalism all around you?

First they started with 2 fingers - now it's all 10.

DisneyWorld first started "securing" their park passes with "outlines" of customers' hands. Now they are doing finger print scanning.

Just two examples, I could go on and on. It's always in the name of "security" - whilst it's simultaneously ALWAYS at the loss of liberty.

[Rabrrrrrr]

4. Geez, I don't know - innocent before guilty, perhaps?

If you prefer "We assume you're guilty, and it's up to you to prove innocence" then, gosh, go to old Russia. Or, you know, just stay here in the new America, land of the shredded Constitution.

[Greyhound]

5. That you don't see why is a perfect example of why they are so successful

in implementing their nefarious schemes. "If you have nothing to hide, why not make all your (formerly) private records available to any government agency that thinks it might have a reason to know about them", For that matter, why shouldn't it be compulsory to give your DNA to us so that we can have a complete record of all our citizens? After all, the government would never mis-use this information, now would it?

Sheep are to dumb to live.

[Mr. Blonde]

3. Don't know how it is where you live

but you have to give prints of both index fingers in order to get a driver's license in Oklahoma.

[file83]

6. Same in Texas

Not yet in Oregon - but I know that one day I will be obligated to give up my liberty by submitting my fingerprints to the state and do so just to be a functioning member of society.

So after a few years, Oklahomans will get used to the finger printing....then you'll need to submit your DNA or better yet, just receive a surgically implanted microchip with all your vitals. We all know it's going to happen, unless we rise up and get pissed - but as long as we have our Football, nachos, beer, TV, & SUV's we'll all go along with it, like the good sheep we should.

[kenny blankenship]

7. try cashing a check in Georgia! FINGERFUCKINGPRINTED!

to. cash. a. check.
and they wanted to charge me $5 too.

[file83]

8. See - that shit would NEVER fly well with the BLUE states - it's the RED

states that are easier to tame. Good sheeple.

[FormerOstrich]

9. In Arizona...

a thumb print is required to have a document notarized.