9/11/01 on Democratic Underground - a look back

[LTR]

I'm sure all of us remember what we were doing and where we were when we heard the news. And fortunately, this moment has been captured in time on DU.

So, straight from the deep archives, here's a look back at DU on September 11, 2001:

Latest Breaking News 1
Latest Breaking News 2
Latest Breaking News 3
General Discussion 1
General Discussion 2
General Discussion 3
DU Lounge

[Roland99]

1. hmm...this one's interesting

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4058&forum=DCForumID5&archive=yes

[jus_the_facts]

2. All those posts by Khephra.....

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

:loveya: ~*~RIP DU's FINEST~*~ :loveya:

[Tatiana]

14. RIP - He always kept us on top of the latest breaking news.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=3997&forum=DCForumID5&archive=yes#6

khephra (35840 posts) Sep-11-01, 10:14 AM (ET)
6. I hate to say it but so will just about everyone so it's up to him to see if he can lead during the war he was wanting, cause he just got a good one.

Prophetic words....

[Tatiana]

28. Khep on Bush's speech....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4325&forum=DCForumID35&archive=yes#26

khephra (35840 posts) Sep-11-01, 08:43 PM (ET)
26.

I could have done a better speech speaking from my heart.
I'm behind him for now, but that was the worst "we've been attacked and we're going to strike back" speech I've ever heard. If I was going into battle I'd say I was demoralized by it...
Man, I get behind him, support him, and still he disappoints me.

[jus_the_facts]

37. here's another one from Bush Speech thread 9/11 8:55 pm....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4325&forum=DCForumID35&archive=yes#1

khephra (35840 posts)
Sep-11-01, 08:55 PM (ET)
39. agreed
there was no real emotion... anytime he showed any it was real forced like an actor practicing.

....couldn't have been more correct with this statement in hindsight. :cry:

[jus_the_facts]

45. Sep-12-01, 10:08 AM (ET) Bush's Wed Morning Speech Thread

....I didn't join DU until the following June...Kheph was thinking the same thoughts I was that day though....Oh how I miss his presence here. :cry:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4377&forum=DCForumID35&archive=yes#TOP

khephra (35840 posts)
Sep-12-01, 10:08 AM (ET)
Bush's Wed Morning Speech Thread
Bush is getting ready to speak again at 10:45 AM CT....I wonder if it will be better than the other three he quickly gave yesterday.


khephra (35840 posts)
Sep-12-01, 12:39 PM (ET)
45. Because we are truely the good guys and gals
we don't want to say a thing bad right now, and that is totally understandable. But now that we've pulled together we are looking at him with different eyes -- we're actually TRYING to support him as a leader and even with all that's gone on he is totally incapable of coming up to the bat. Once again, I will say I could have given more support filled speeches off the cuff.
It's really weird to spend one day hoping that the man you hate could lead you, and then being disappointed again when he fails in the one subject (defense) that his party is supposed to be great at. He ran for cover and that will eventually cost him after this is all over.

[Tatiana]

54. Amazing... simply an amazing man.

I have tears in my eyes. He was so observant. I'd even go so far as to say prophetic, in some aspects, with his comments on that dreadful day.

[jus_the_facts]

55. Yes indeed.....my heart hurts readin' his posts.....

....the world is a darker place without him in it...though he STILL SHINES ON through his words remembered here today. :hug:

[file83]

44. Khephra was DU's first member to postulate government involvment with 9/11

with this post:

khephra Donating Member (35840 posts) Sep-11-01, 09:22 AM (ET)
15. same here

same here

would they be crazy enough to do something like this on their own to justify a crackdown? Of course they would.

[jus_the_facts]

46. He was an amazing person....and he saw through the propaganda....

....THAT DAY...s'only one reason I admired and loved the guy as I felt these same emotions then too yet didn't find DU until the next June '02! :loveya:

[Laughing Mirror]

3. Famous Last Words

William Pitt: I'll say it: WE NEED TO SUPPORT BUSH & GOV'T NOW

[LTR]

4. I caught that right away too

Amazing the crazy stuff we said that day and shortly after.

[Laughing Mirror]

6. "We"??

[Poll_Blind]

69. THANK YOU! Sentiments shared. n/t

PB

[angstlessk]

9. I find tom_paine's post most prescient...

...Which civil rights/liberties will the Bush Axis target in the wake of the tragedy?

Hardly ANYONE ever considered this at that time.

Edit: not only that...but the use of the word AXIS is really amazing!

[lady lib]

43. Yes!! tom_paine deserves kudos for his early insight:

tom_paine (5799 posts)
Sep-11-01, 10:22 AM (ET)
8. Wake up and smell the coffee, Chris
Atlant is right, that is what they want you to say.
In many ways (NOT that I am condoning it in any way) this is karmic payback for our national sins (and I don't think we're done paying, I'm afraid). We had a coup, we sat back and didn't stand up for our own vanishing rights. We watched IL Chimpe trample all over workers rights, human rights, civil rights, the environment and anyone and anything else that didn't have a large wad of cash...

Also, consider this, let's say you were a German and the Reichstag burned down in 1934. Would your response have been, "This is a German issue, lets put aside our differences with Hitlerites and find out who did this!"

Now, I'm not sure, nor will I state that I think the Bush Axis did this all themselves (10% possibility), but I believe it much more likely (40% possibility) that the Bush Axis knew this was coming and did nothing. Hell, they probably care more for the destroyed buildings than they do the dead, worthless serf/automatons.

The sad part is, for the first time in my life I can even conceive or would suspect our own people either doing this or standing by and letting happen.

But I can with IL Bushe. I most certainly can.

One other question, Chris: Which of our right/privacies will we lose over this one? Your naive as hell if you don't think the Bush Axis will target them in the wake of this tragedy. Hmmmm, sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Note: This is in the "Would this be happening if Gore was president" thread. General Discussion 1.

[lonestarnot]

10. WTF?

Which thread?

[Laughing Mirror]

13. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4283&forum=DCForumID35&archive=yes

[lonestarnot]

15. Yes found it after going through everything.

WOW. Just WOW.

[leftchick]

48. best post in that thread

I wonder where she went anyway. :(

noiretblu (6901 posts)
Sep-11-01, 02:18 PM (ET)
53. williampitt...let's get real
of course i support the american people which is one of the reasons why i don't support bush. and of course i condemn people responsible for this tragedy, but i may not support our response to it...i reserve the right to decide about that when it happens. however, i haven't supported anything bush has done, and i don't think he is legitimate, and until today you and most of the people here didn't either. that didn't make us any less american yesterday than it does today. i'm open-minded enough to support right action if i see it, even in an unelected pResident, however, to date he hasn't earned my support. now, i'm going to give blood.

[file83]

50. That was a voice of reason, for sure.

[lonestarnot]

62. Voice of sound intelligent reason.

[lonestarnot]

61. I wondered the same thing. We need her!

[question everything]

11. Everyone did! Even in Tehran

and this is the tragedy: we've lost all the friends and supporters that we had worldwide at that moment. No one held it against us when we attacked Afghanistan. But when we went to Iraq, with the ruse of WMD, of Al-Qaeda - this is how we sank to the bottom.

[Laughing Mirror]

16. Everyone? I most certainly did not

And I never supported the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan.

Not everybody was fooled, far from it.

And don't call me "we" or "us."

[LTR]

29. Sorry

Forgot how much better you are than us simpletons.

:eyes:

[Laughing Mirror]

33. Not better, but not worse either

and you have nothin to be sorry about. :patriot:

[question everything]

42. Then you, and many conspiracy theorists on DU, were in the minority

And as long as many held this opinion, there is really no wonder why we - Democrats - keep losing in national elections.

Here is what E.J. Dionne Jr. - no right winger - writes:

WASHINGTON - The events of Sept. 11, 2001, are personal to every American. The day was not about politics or partisanship or elections. That's why the country, divided more or less 50-50 on political matters the day before the terrorist attacks, immediately drew together in sorrow, solidarity and determination. The rest of the world stood with us.

Five years on, you look at the rancid state of our politics, the decline in America's standing in the world and the behavior of our national leadership, and you want to shed tears for your nation. This year, so much of what's being said about the events of 9/11 is about the political survival of the Bush administration.

http://www.startribune.com/562/story/664936.html

[leftchick]

47. I sure as hell didn't either

I am the only person I know who didn't buy a flag.

[uppityperson]

56. I did not either

thanked people @ work for not putting 1 up since I would have had a really hard time coming to work. Owner said his wife said If you would not put one up other days, do not do it then.

[never_get_over_it]

59. I didn't either

didn't support the freak before 9/11 didn't support him during 9/11 and I don't support him now - but I will admit it took me a while to begin to think about MIHOP or LIHOP and I think it is because it is just too terrible a thought to contemplate....

[leftchick]

60. I know

LIHOP came to me many months later. :(

[lonestarnot]

22. I beg your pardon, but I did not! I began speculation as to how

he was involved on the day of...

[zanne]

34. The really pathetic thing about reading this is...

The topics that we discussed then are the topics we discuss now. Nothing has changed and none of the problems have been solved. Depressing.

[F.Gordon]

53. Interesting comment from Roy

Listening to republicans call for blindly standing behind Bush, and in the next sentence blaming Clinton for these attacks is appalling.

It is obvious they have no problems with attempting to extract political gain from the tragic loss of american lives.

Seems that the script for Trail to 7-11 was being written that day....

[otohara]

5. Thanks, Better Than Watching Corporate Media

coverage we're in store for - tomorrow, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.....eternity.

[angstlessk]

7. Thanks, I was looking for this earlier..and some have provided many

posts, but this is the most succinct. Thanks!

[Mz Pip]

8. Thanks for posting this

I spent much of that day on DU as I was at work and had no TV access.

One thing stand out - the chaos, even in the news reports. Car bombs, second plane hitting the Pentagon. THe confusion conbined with the horror is all coming back to me.

Both my kids lived in NYC at the time. Both towers had collapsed before they were able to check in with me. No words can describe what those in New York must have been feeling.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Laughing Mirror]

12. "Palestinians claiming responsibility" (DrGonzoLives)

"They just said it on the radio here in Chicago"

Just like David Ray Griffin says, they changed the story every five minutes and the none of them ever held up. Not even the official story.

[LTR]

17. Lots of crazy stories that day

I think bin Laden was captured about three times on 9/11 and at least two or three Muslims were gunned down or beaten on the streets of New Jersey.

[Laughing Mirror]

20. And within 48 hours they'd ID'd all the players and knew who'd dun it

Amazing! Just amazing!

[lonestarnot]

21. A Sikh gunned down for wearing traditional clothing at a gas station

in AZ either that day or that week. (Don't know if I spelled that correctly)

[Laughing Mirror]

24. Yep, right on schedule

Anybody halfway Arab-looking was an immediate suspect. Took ages for that sickening xenophobia paranoia to die down.

Or has it?

[lonestarnot]

25. No it has not recieved the execution it deserves. In fact it has

become an even more deadly silent killer.

[MichiganVote]

18. Truer words were never spoken....

LBN # 2
sffreeways (6419 posts)

Sep-11-01, 12:18 PM (ET)

80. People American life as we know it
has just changed dramatically...we will not be going back to our regularly scheduled lives anytime soon.

[CountAllVotes]

19. I do not know how you managed to pull up this list of links

but, you have done a very good job of providing this information to us here on the DU. Thank you so very much.

It proves a lot to me. It proves that WE here on the DU were very concerned, afraid, and willing to report things that people became aware of that might be of some help.

:kick:

[LTR]

27. I had the DU archives bookmarked

And I decided to look around for 9/11/01.

I had discovered it it a while back.

[LTR]

70. one more kick for the weeknight crowd

:kick:

[kentuck]

23. I notice Frank Stein in GD3 ?

Wasn't that Mopaul?

[Laughing Mirror]

26. Whatever happened to Mopaul?

Tombstoned too, along with so many of the greats?

[yewberry]

40. No, his account is still active

but I haven't seen a post in some time. :shrug:

[Laughing Mirror]

41. Maybe we can summon his spirit and he'll return.

Come back MoPaul wherever you are !!

[catmandu57]

36. Yes until he changed his name

That was Mo. Reading through these threads is like seeing ghosts, whisps of long forgotten memories.

[LTR]

39. I always wondered what happened to this guy

From Page 1:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=5&forum=DCForumID35&archive=yes

[catmandu57]

49. I don't know, but,

he spelled Klintoon wrong.

[mb7588a]

30. anybody ever investigated this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=4064&forum=DCForumID5&archive=yes

? ?

Interesting little story there.

[mb7588a]

31. Nevermind, a post thereafter quotes police cheif

saying there was no explosives....

but i'd like to someday see a list of police reports from the NYC area for that day and the week or two afterwards.

[LTR]

64. I remember hearing that one that night

Nothing ever came of it. Everyone was just a bit jittery, I guess.

[kentuck]

32. I remember having a "heated" discussion with "NYguy" the day before...

...about "hillbillies" or some trivial matter. I think he was in the WTC? He never returned to DU...

[Suziq]

35. Thanks for Posting

I unfortunately did not find DU until 2002. I am finding these posts extremely interesting.

[DemInDistress]

38. thanks Irish..those archives are rich with comments and facts

that have come to pass. I wasn't here in 01'or 02' but came aboard in 04'. Du-ers then were as sharp as they are today and even more so.

I hope all DU-ers review some of the many threads leading up to 911. The way it was in a time of great political thefts DU was there.


Bookmarked for later reading.

thanks again

[ulysses]

51. I remember it vividly.

[Catchawave]

52. Ok, now I have flashback chills....

Bookmarked to read later, thanks for researching this :hi:

[Ksec]

57. very interesting

especially this one which seems to be one of the first , as it was happening.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=3984&forum=DCForumID5&archive=yes

[Tatiana]

58. Muchacho called it.

muchacho (701 posts) Sep-11-01, 09:21 AM (ET)
14. Shield this?
I wonder how SDI would have saved us from this?
I think it might be Ben Ladin.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=3984&forum=DCForumID5&archive=yes#14

[KurtNYC]

63. Interesting as heck

Thanks for posting this.

[Stand and Fight]

65. Interesting... Recommending... n/t

[LTR]

66. kick for 9/11

[jus_the_facts]

67. ~*~

:grouphug:

[LTR]

68. .

:kick: