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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:02 PM
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Could "The Path" backfire?
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 02:14 PM by gully
I think ABC will end up on everyones proverbial shit list.

1. Conservatives will wail that ABC caved and edited the film to appease "angry liberals."

2. Democrats/the left are pissed that they twisted events and took dramatic license with an event that should be portrayed with the utmost respect, truth, caution. Even notable conservatives are saying as much.

3. The movie is said to be dreadfully boring in spite of the subject matter, I bet most viewers wont sit through a full 30 minutes.

Here's the blog where the writer/director backpeddle and assure us how fair the film is:

http://blogs.abc.com/thepathto911/

Time will tell how this all plays out. Could be a "perfect storm?"
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:05 PM
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1. sure seems like they stepped in it
it's big wet and stinky
and it's splattered all over the republicans
yup that's what they call blowback
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:06 PM
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2. talking with a conservative acquaintance this wk who is opening eyes
they won't watch ABC thing because they say it will be lies. Now, to get them to vote Dem in congressional election...
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:07 PM
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3. people who want to believe it will believe and they will some will
think because it was on tv it was true. they will quote the movie as they bash Clinton. I can't see anything positive in this. The only positive thing I could see is mobilizing some angry dems to work on campains. But, as far as conservatives go this movie is probably gonna mobilize in a bad way some people who previously were disenchanted with the repubs and were considering voting dem or not voting at all.
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Parisle Donating Member (849 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:22 PM
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12. Bingo,........ maybe.
---- The PT9-11 movie "might" sway a few excitable "undecideds," but the original cast of Clinton bashers has not toned down its drivel in ten years. Their influence will not be affected. There seems to be a better liklihood that the movie will serve to piss off liberals and democrats, and thereby motivate them to a larger November turnout. And then of course, there is always the aftermath of discussion, reaction and even possible legal actions which will follow the movie's airing,... and this could work against the movie's original propagandist intent, as well...

---- Finally, the flick will definitely cause a discussion of how Bush could have been president-elect for 11 months, and in office for 9 months without doing anything,... without heeding the info turned over by Clinton,.. without reading their own intel reports,.. without even bothering to translate al-Queda messages intercepted on 9-10. There could be a substantial backfire in this area.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:36 PM
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16. Excellent
points.
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:14 PM
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4. Sadly, I know people who still quote the swiftboaters....and use
their lies to deny to their twisted brains the fact that Kerry is a hero and bush is a coward....but they have "sources" that say otherwise so they never admit they are wrong.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:16 PM
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6. True, but the SB attack was not properly defended.
People have really mobilized about this and even some conservatives are bitching. Bill Bennett and Bill O'Reilly have said "don't put words in peoples mouths" for example.

I think most people are going to say it was dull AND inaccurate when all is said and done?
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:15 PM
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5. Some report that the quality of the production is excellent
I mean, not the content, but the stage, cinematography, pace, etc. Also, that ABC will have disclaimers that this is a docudrama in the beginning, middle and the end.

Also, that on the second day the movie portrays the Bush administration in just a bad light (is this why Bush is butting the middle with his speech?)

Either way, I do not intend to watch it.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:16 PM
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7. I'm not watching either.
Interesting take on the Bush 911 speech.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:35 PM
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15. I'm watching "The Wire." nt
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 03:38 PM
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18. I'm watching "American Dad" and "Family Guy" instead...
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 03:39 PM by Blue Belle
either that or I'll rent a movie. I can't bear to watch ANY of the 9/11 movies or reenactment tributes... It seems monumentally wrong considering the ones who claim to have protected us are the ones responsible for the deaths of these people (at least in my opinion). I refuse to watch or entertain the a reenacted version of the "Official" bullshit story. It's offensive to me and offensive to the memory of those who lost their lives that day. The real culprit remains at large and I'm not talking about Osama Bin Laden - and I refuse to watch him and his henchmen be propped up as the "heroes" of that day. Until we find out the real answers about what happened on September 11, all these movies just seem to be folklore and spin - and I get enough of that from the "news".
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 03:01 PM
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17. Not the clips they were showing on CNN / MSNBC
They looked awful.... awful writing, hamfisted direction,
dull acting, gimmicky camerawork, cop show editing...
i couldn't take it... with or without the lies
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:17 PM
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8. Who says they've edited anything out?
From what I've been reading everything is in there and it's worse than we thought.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:18 PM
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10. It's been edited according to many.
Still not good, but edited some.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:18 PM
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9. If it helps promote material like this (PressForTruth), then yes:
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 02:32 PM by Ghost Dog
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:20 PM
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11. backfire? - looking at Iraq invasion, what has Bush done that panned out?
Besides allowing Cheney to score no-bid contracts for Halliburton?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:24 PM
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13. They've thrown open the doors on 9/11 and Junior still doesn't have
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 02:24 PM by sfexpat2000
bin Laden.

They've admitted to error so bad they've had to "edit"

Worst of all, they've obviously politicized 9/11. People are sick of that and especially sick of it on this anniversary when we should be honoring the dead.

This will come to no good for any of the pod people. It will be a net gain for us except for the 30 %ers who are stark raving mad anyway.
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:35 PM
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14. I agree
fully.
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