Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

I give up - there's no hope at all

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:38 PM
Original message
I give up - there's no hope at all
Just like those who supported revolting against the British Empire. They had no hope and just gave up.

Just like those who supported adding the Bill of Rights to the Constitution. They had no hope and just gave up.

Just like those who supported overturning slavery. They had no hope and just gave up.

Just like those who supported giving women the right to vote. They had no hope and just gave up.

Just like those who supported giving African-Americans the right to vote. They had no hope and just gave up.

Whenever I feel like the battle is too hard or too long or too costly I remember those who came before us and fought extremely hard for what they believed was right. They persevered even though many of them never got to enjoy the fruits of their labor.

And I don't give up. I don't lose hope.

Neither should you. Freedom is worth it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:40 PM
Response to Original message
1. AMEN! nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Luna_Chick Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:44 PM
Response to Original message
2. A much needed reminder
For all of us :patriot:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:44 PM
Response to Original message
3. I like the historic context
you put this in! Most people do not realize just how on the edge we are of losing it all, losing democracy itself. We can never give up, we can't ever give in.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:45 PM
Response to Original message
4. "illegitimati non carburundum" VERY loose latin for "don't let the
bastards grind you down!!" which is pretty much the way I feel-- I will NEVER give up hope, give up working for what I believe in, even as the last breath leaves my body--will probably be arguing with the powers-that-be on the other side to let me finish.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. I had that on my tee-shirt in boot camp
One of our company commanders had suggested the psuedo-latin for our motto.

We have to keep on encouraging each other, just as the freedom-fighters of days past did.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:56 PM
Response to Original message
5. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 04:59 PM
Response to Original message
7. I needed that Ezlivin.
Thank you so much. :pals:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Boy, so did I. Esp. after I just wrote this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2100445



I find myself beginning to weigh the costs of keeping a good job and providing for my family and doing what I feel I must do.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. 9/11: Press for Truth - The paradigm shift happens now
Although the term "paradigm shift" has been used to the point of rendering it a cliché, I believe it is apropos.

There is a change coming.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. I felt the same way in the days following Fahrenheit 9/11
but only saw it dashed upon the rocks in another theft of the Presidency.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #13
16. Me too.
When surfing you sometimes miss the wave you wanted. But more often than not, a nice set is coming your way.

I feel like we've missed one wave and a new one is coming.

And I have a feeling that we'll catch this one...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. Took Papillon a while to catch the right one but he finally did!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #8
19. This morning I had an "Oh I give up" moment
Just hearing the local news reader say in describing those having objections to P911 as being "mostly democrats" :wtf:

Andrew Sullivan, Faux News hosts, and Bill freakin Bennett?

Did they switch parties, and nobody told me?

Of course it was the local PayBC affiliate, but that's neither here nor rthere. I just felt so helpless in that moment. The machinations of Those in Power to have their message broadcast, if only to the point of this wee bit of editorialization can be forgotten or giggled off at times, but this just stunned me for some reason. It then inspired me to shoot my writer's cramp a lovely FU note and scribble this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2097412&mesg_id=2097412
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:00 PM
Response to Original message
9. Never surrender, never quit. May have to temporarily move though LOL
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #9
18. Stick around. We'll toss out Perry and get Bell into office.
That'll be a little bit of light here in Texas.

Where's Ann Richards when you need her?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #18
29. I'm in AZ, so that won't help me, but we have a fantastic gov. Janet is
arguably the best U.S. gov. in the U.S.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:01 PM
Response to Original message
10. Huzzah
:toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
11. When the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor....
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:05 PM
Response to Original message
14. Fight 'em til hell freezes over!
Then fight 'em on the ice! as David Van Os says.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:06 PM
Response to Original message
15. Kick, Never Give Up
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:15 PM
Response to Original message
20. K & R!
INCREDIBLY well said!!!

:applause:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 05:53 PM
Response to Original message
21. Here's one of my favorite quotes:
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 06:07 PM by pnorman
"Look at a stone cutter hammering away at his rock, perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the hundred-and-first blow it will split in two, and I know it was not the last blow that did it, but all that had gone before."
Jacob August Riis

NEVER GIVE UP!

pnorman
PS: Edited to correct a minor typo. But I'll take this opportunity to cite a brief bio of Jacob Riis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Riis Be sure to check out the on-line version of his best known work --- "How the Other Half Lives": http://www.cis.yale.edu/amstud/inforev/riis/title.html You most likely have seen some of his photos in the past.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. Still googling "Jacob Riis",
I found this touching (and heart-breaking) photo by him: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAriis.htm

pnorman
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 07:49 PM
Response to Original message
22. Give UP......
I think that the movie the republicans have made about 9/11 and ABC would not pull, was the straw that broke the camel's back. I think that the Real Americans in this country are going to raise hell. I think this time they took off more than they can chew. And I think that they are going to get a hell of a surprise in November. The American people are absolute sick of this crap....The republicans think they can do anything they want and this time they got fooled. ABC has not heard the last of this, not by a long shot. And bush, cheney and rove think they pulled another swift boat, this time on President Clinton, but this did them in, it did...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:19 PM
Response to Original message
23. When I start....
I remember all those people who
worked so hard before I was even born,
and know that I treasure their work
as I live my freedom filled life based upon
their accomplishments.

So I get up, stop feeling sorry for myself
and go after those bush bastards.

NGU
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:33 PM
Response to Original message
24. I'll be right there fighting with you Ezlivin
We Duers are fighters; and we will prevail.:thumbsup: :dem:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:42 PM
Response to Original message
25. Thank you for this post... I was feeling that all was "hopeless"
your words have put me back in the right state of mind! THANK YOU.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bobbie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
26. Great post Ezlivin
Thank you. Nice antidote to this ABC crap.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 08:53 PM
Response to Original message
28. Yes! Thanks Ezlivin n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 09:43 PM
Response to Original message
30. It's fine to remember the winners
But people have lost, even those that kept on fighting. Their fights didn't always end up on the winning side either.

Know what all those wins accomplished? Everyone gets to live like everyone else within the system that was set up as an organized power structure which is contributing to all the problems that we face. But at least anyone can have a chance to be part of the problem. It's not just for us white men anymore.

Losing hope is the only way anything will actually change.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
patsimae Donating Member (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:30 AM
Response to Original message
31. Thank you so much
I was starting to get depressed.

This put everything in context.

We have to see the big picture.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:42 AM
Response to Original message
32. Thats right!!!!!! You never ever give up- ever!!!!!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:00 AM
Response to Original message
33. I almost didn't read this because
I didn't want to read a discouraging post. Now, I'm glad I did...

It's the opposite - positive and inspiring! Thanks and NGU!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:15 AM
Response to Original message
34. Everything listed took
many years of hard work, and in many cases, much shed blood. Makes ya wonder, are today's Americans willing to give up their comforts to enact another major change?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:17 AM
Response to Reply #34
37. I ask myself that
And there's only one way to find out.

I'm sure that when Patrick Henry said "Give me liberty or give me death" he thought that others were backing him.

Maybe not all Americans are willing to pay the price that being a true patriot entails, but I believe there's enough of them to make a difference.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:10 AM
Response to Original message
35. A-frickin-men.
Never give up.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:17 AM
Response to Original message
36. There is no more freedom...
* took it all away.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:21 PM
Response to Original message
38. Thank you...I needed to hear that today. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:09 PM
Response to Original message
39. Generation after generation of Irish lost and lost badly until one day...


...they won.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 11:13 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC