My 1st thought that morning: bush did this.

[Philosoraptor]

I know, I'm probably wrong, and I probably unfairly jumped to conclusions, yet, I confess that the second I saw the second jet hit the second tower, I actually uttered those three words to myself.

I know HE didn't do it, but I know many other things now that I didn't know on that morning, and I still cannot get those three words out of my skull.

[Mythsaje]

1. It wasn't my first thought,

but before too much time had passed, my thought was "Well, isn't THIS convenient?"

[malaise]

11. I remember saying

How convenient. I never believed the official story and still don't.

[screembloodymurder]

20. Anyone that believes the OCT has a loose grip on reality.

BTW, did the Path to 911 show the magic passport leaving the airliner, passing through the burning tower and pulverized concrete, and dropping unharmed to the street below? Or how about the Flight 93 passport?

[screembloodymurder]

22. I've got to admit, I knew the OCT was cooked, but

I didn't know the Bush administration was involved until I saw the collapse of building #7.

[Solomon]

2. The first thought, and the first words out of my mouth were,

"this is some Bush shit". Like you said, I know it wasn't fair, but that's what I felt in my heart and what my instincts were.

As soon as they started trying to tell us what happened, I was convinced that I was right.

There was no "who did this?" from the media. They were telling us Bin Laden and the arabs before there was any investigation at all.

Then when I saw the video of him in that classroom, how he just sat there after being told of the hijacking and plane crash, I knew immediately he was sitting there waiting for the complete scenario to
play it's way out.

My theory is the circle that Bush was in, including Condi Rice, were told ahead of time that a "traditional hijacking" was going to be staged for the benefit of the public. Nobody was going to get killed, not a lot of people anyway because the hijackers would only have boxcutters. Swat teams would storm the plane when it landed and Bush would look like a hero foiling a terrorist plot.

Bush had that deer in the headlights look that morning because he was trying to figure out whether the planes hitting the building, were the same planes that were supposed to be just hijacked.

It was probably starting to dawn on him at that very moment, that he had been played by Cheney and the boys. He was probably thinking, "i knew they couldn't tell me everything because I need plausible deniability, but damn... I didn't know they would go this far."

[darkmaestro019]

5. no "who did this"

"There was no "who did this?" from the media. They were telling us Bin Laden and the arabs before there was any investigation at all."

Exactly. I found that rather mysterious. My, if you took point four seconds to know who did it AND get it to every media outlet in the galaxy, why didn't you stop it?

Why in the unholy FK didn't our gigantic expensive top-of-the-line air force manage to shoot down a few flying buses?

[darkmaestro019]

3. My first thought was

"Dear gods, they are NEVER EVER going to shut up about this."

Yes, I know how uncharitable it sounds...but in retrospect, I think I saw EXACTLY the point of letting this happen.

[lvx35]

4. I just looked out the window and cried.

And thought of it as a tragedy, something sad, something stupid...And then the government tried to out-stupid the stupid act with stupid acts of its own, and we went down the rabbit hole. It was sad to see 3000 die, but 40,000 die everyday, and I knew that well from working in the nursing homes. It was not so special as to throw the nation into the fascist fucktardation that it did.

[Richard D]

6. Remember . . .

. . . the Koran and flight manual that were found in a rented car just a few hours later? And then there was the passport of one of the hijackers found in the rubble . . .

I thought that * and crew did it almost the second I saw the first plane hit. All the explanations seemed like total BS to me. Still do in many ways.

[Philosoraptor]

7. photos & names of all the perps the very next day

and an official evil nemisis blamed.

[lvx35]

8. That was when the BS smell started.

Atta's passport flying out of the fires that melted steel onto the ground. WTF?

[Mandate My Ass]

18. Yes, I felt like I was watching some badly scripted docudrama

It felt like B.S. to me the whole time. My gut said from the get go this was an inside job and nothing that has come to light since has changed my mind. In fact, everything that subsequently came to light supports LIHOP or MIHOP.

But yes, the koran and the flight manual was incredibly lame.

[Karenina]

9. My cousin called... TURN ON YOUR TV NOW!!!

I don't HAVE a TV. Well, go find one! Planes are attacking the Twin Towers.

I hopped on my bike to go ring Ugo's bell. We sat there in silence with our mouths hanging open till we turned to look at each other and SIMULTANEOUSLY uttered, "CIA."

[MadHound]

10. What we saw that day was the Big Lie, live and in color

Two towers, hit in different ways, different places, both collapse virtually straight down into their own footprint. Demolition experts the world over are wondering, even if it is the deep, unspeaking corners of their heart, how the hell did that happen. Firemen the world over are wondering how a jet fuel fire, with maximum temperature of 900 degrees F managed to, in an enviroment of fire retardant materials and spraying water sprinklers, managed to reach that magical 1100 degree F number where structural steel starts to weaken. People the world over wonder where were the NORAD jets that day. They had a forty five minute lead time, plenty of time to get to NYC, Washington or a field over PA. Yet they never, ever showed, thus violating a standing order of long duration. Bankers and brokers wonder who it was that benefitted from 911 buy selling stocks short. The paper trail led back to an ex (yeah, right) CIA man in Switzerland, and then suddenly the investigation was dropped.

Lots of wondering going on, and sadly many questions will never be answered in our lifetime.

[mwb970]

17. Well, we finally learned the truth about the Maine.

"Lots of wondering going on, and sadly many questions will never be answered in our lifetime."

To most Americans at the time, there was no question that a Spanish mine or torpedo destroyed the battleship USS Maine in Cuba's Havana Harbor on Feb. 15, 1898, becoming the catalyst that triggered the Spanish-American War, and sparking the rallying cry, "Remember the Maine." But war might have been avoided had the truth been known and diplomacy prevailed.

(...)

The captain of the Maine, who survived the disaster, insisted his ship had been blown up. So did the American press, stirred to a fury of indignation. Navy investigators in 1898 reached the same conclusion, stating that an external agent detonated the ship's powder magazines. Another inquiry in 1911 was inconclusive.

In 1976, however, Admiral Hyman Rickover published his book, "How the Battleship Maine Was Destroyed," which cited the conclusion of two experts on the effects of explosions on ship hulls.

Applying modern scientific knowledge to the problem, the experts determined that a fire started by spontaneous combustion in a coal bunker transferred heat through a bulkhead to one of three powder magazines, setting off a chain reaction. This is the accepted view of most naval authorities today.

http://newsmine.org/archive/deceptions/war-pretext-lies/remember-the-maine-pretext-rush.txt

[REP]

12. First Thought Was Of The Sheer Terror They Must Have Felt Before They Died

Everyday things - planes, office buildings - became inescapable engines of death. What kind of blinding, horrible terror it must have been to be strapped to a seat, knowing what was going to happen and not being able to do anything to stop any of it - your own death, the deaths of the office workers, or even make your death painless - just having to sit and wait. Utter hate for the people who did that to any other human beings.

[RollergirlVT]

13. That was also my first instinct. n/t

Deep in my gut I just knew they did it.

[lapfog_1]

14. I don't think he is bright enough...

but Cheney and Rummy and Wolfowitz and a few others are.(probably no more than 10 to 12 in on the whole
plot)

Many many others have their roles to play... like Bush.

For the critical hours of the actual attack, better to have * flown around the country and tell
him that "they have targeted YOU, Mr. President" and let Cheney and crew do the job of making sure
that the attack wasn't foiled.

[eggbeater]

16. One thing that has been on my mind forever

and I really dont like to talk about it because I just have no clue as to the chain of events inside of each plane but,

If you were on a plane, or anywhere else for that matter, and you were in a large group of people that were held hostage and you knew that you were going to be killed. Why wouldnt you all bad together and go after the attackers?

Have Americans become so complacent that two or three inidviduals with a box cutter can win over a group of 100+ people?

Knowing that if I did nothing, death would come, I would certainly consider the safety in numbers theory and expect a rush of the attackers, those on the plane could (with casualty) have overcome the few holding them.

So this is something that weighs on my mind. I can not for the life of me picture that many people just sitting in their seat doing nothing while their plane is taken over and their death certain.

can someone explain that to me

[lapfog_1]

21. Up until the Sept 11, 2001

most passengers survived hijackings...

most hijackers wanted to be taken somewhere and had a list of demands (money, freedom for
fellow terrorists, political demands).

So the first planes hijacked on Sept. 11, 2001... the passengers there had no reason to
believe that they were going to die (well, if they witnessed the attacks on the pilot and
co-pilots, they might have worried that this was going to go bad, but they didn't KNOW it
was going to end with a crash). The last plane hijacked... the story (likely true) is that
the passengers did figure out they were going to die and then they attacked the hijackers.
What exactly happened after that (did the terrorists fly into the ground... did the plane
fly itself into the ground while the passengers and terrorists fought... or did the Air
Force actually shoot it down), we will likely never really know for sure. And it really
doesn't matter.

[eggbeater]

23. Good point

but I must disagree with you on the really doesnt matter part.
It does matter how the U.S government handled the situation.
The public needs to know if the government is willing, and in fact has used deadly force against a flight full of citizens when that flight was taken over.

even if I could not put too much fault at the hands of the government because they would have saved more lives than they took, we still need to know where we stand in such situations.

[symbolman]

15. When I saw the look on Bush's face

that morning as Andy whispered in his ear and then he continues to sit there and sit there and sit there, I KNEW HE KNEW BEFORE it happened.

The look he had was, "Oh shit, will we get away with this? I hope I don't go to jail, Cheney better be right. They just told me to sit down and shut up and there'd be a lot of power and money in it.."

But Mostly, "WILL WE GET AWAY WITH THIS?"

If you think about it, it's one of the few times he hasn't blinked FURIOUSLY. No tears then either for those people, none. Then the "we're gonna get those FOLKS" speech infuriated me as well.

Soon after the AF One blew town, way too long, having put those kids in danger the whole time, he was clutching the AF One toilet the whole way, hiding behind it and pissing his pants like the coward his IS.

FINALLY, he gave a speech and the video was SO BAD that I was frightened that a world leader (our "pResident") had been CAPTURED by the enemy and was being forced by his captors to give a speech and pass along their Demands.. he was that scared and the video was so terrible - ANY video camera would have functioned better than that, it looked very much like video tape, maybe he'd gone on already to leave a trail of PISS to his next destination.

His lack of leadership ability and just plain cowardice killed all those people. A REAL MAN would have launched an immediate air force attack on those airliners and used the jetwash to force them out to sea. However we must not forget that BUSH KNEW about all this BEFORE he went into that school. The school was COVER and nothing more.

Those children were just as much as the people in those twin towers, what his own father liked to call "FODDER UNITS".

BUSH KNEW, AND DID NOTHING. He did NOTHING about Terror from the minute he set foot in OUR White House. Cheney was IN CHARGE Of Terror, self appointed and HE DID NOTHING. The newspapers might want to reread some of their own articles instead of playing "Ministry of TRUTH" like Orwell predicted.

[RangerSmith]

19. my first thought

after reading your post....

bush is too damn stupid to have pulled this off.

Cheney and Rove and Rumsfeld are certainly smart men, but after seeing how they handled Iraq... nope, they aren't smart enough to have done this either.

I know it's hard to actually believe that there are some religious fanatics out there that would kill those that don't agree with them, but follow that line of thought as you follow the fanantics in this country and before long you'll be able to grasp where this stuff came from.

[SmokingJacket]

24. My first thoughts were, Everyone is going to know someone affected

by this. I did the math, and figured at least 10,000 were in the buildings. I was totally overwhelmed thinking of all the people I knew who lived in the city.

My second thought was, Oh, God, the media and the publishing industry are going to milk this incident for *YEARS*!!

My third thought was that it seemed an awful lot like a domestic terrorist incident -- like Oklahoma City.

It wasn't until a few days later when I began to feel that the government was NOT going to do a thorough investigation, that they were going to pin this on whoever they wanted to pin it on, that I began to wonder what the hell was really going on.

[eggbeater]

25. I just sat back and waited for the movie.

From watching and understanding how the media whores work, I knew it would be short time before a movie, books, posters, the tee-shirts (I survived Allah) etc... hit the market.

no sense in missing out on a quick buck.:mad: