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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:02 PM
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Another important Sept. 11 happening
On September 11, 1906, Mohandas Ghandi led the first of his non violent protests against the British. Just thought people ought to know. 100 years ago today.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:04 PM
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1. Kick n Rec!
Ghandi: still the one!

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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:22 PM
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2. Yes indeed, never pass up a chance to remind folks of Ghandi
and his time-honored, lifelong contributions to peace and the betterment of humankind.

The Mahatma to this day remains at the very top of my list of admired people. I also own the movie "Ghandi" starring Ben Kingsley, which is IMO one of the best ever made. Can hardly bear to watch it, due mostly to the anticipated tragic ending; but I recommend it often to folks.

Ghandi, Kahlil Gibran, and J Krishnamurti: Three people I always love to commend to people.


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Starkraven Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:14 PM
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10. I only recently discovered
J Krishnamurti. A new hero!
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:08 AM
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12. I found him in 1978 and was awed.
Read my first Krishnamurti book the same summer I read Vince Bugliosi's Helter Skelter -- guess which book helped me sleep better nights?! ;)

I was also reading the Tao Te Ching and lots of other Lao Tzu that year, and a marvelous book by a physicist named Fritjof Capra, The Tao of Physics. A Zen take on subatomic particles and quantum physics. VERY interesting and brain-expanding stuff there; it's time I reread that one.

Then I picked up copies of the Don Juan trilogy by Carlos Casteneda and gobbled those down whole (heh heh), and topped it off with Elizabeth Kubler-Ross's classic On Death and Dying and then a book about Timothy Leary's extremely academically sound and above board Concord Prison Experiment, where inmates were given LSD to determine if it could help reduce recidivism. Very interesting take on why it didn't work, and I totally agree with him on his conclusions.

Come to think of it, 1978 was a very interesting year for me all around, as it was the year I bought my first motorcycle, too -- a 1974 Moto Guzzi El Dorado 850, a road machine if ever there was one. Began my 30-year love affair with motorcycles, putting 3000 miles on that bike in just 30 days and none of it on a road trip!

Oops, I'm musing aloud again. But I have to say none of the above books I mentioned or any others I've read in my life that I can think of offhand have had as profound an impact on me as that first book by Krishnamurti. That's what I was wanting to say. :)

Not even Gibran's The Prophet, which I carried around like a bible for several years, affected me more than Krishnamurti. I read both his very early work (1954), The First and Last Freedom, and his Think on These Things, (1964). I'm wanting to get my hands on the much later collaborative work he did with quantum physicist David Bohm, The Ending of Time. I'm long overdue for some more Krishnamurti in my life!

For anyone who is interested in checking out the brilliant mind of this man, here's the best place I know of to read about him all on one page.

http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/index.php?page=103&nav=welcome&nid=103

Thanks for prompting me to talk more about him, even if that wasn't what you intended! ;)


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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:53 PM
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3. Kicking for a man who understood
what nation building really means;
how to be a uited not a divider;
and how to peacefully win hearts and minds in a conflict zone.

Recommending for the same reasons. Thank you for reminding us.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:00 PM
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4. At a mass protest meeting held in Johannesburg on 11th September that year
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi
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In 1906, the Transvaal government promulgated a new Act compelling registration of the colony's Indian population. At a mass protest meeting held in Johannesburg on 11th September that year, Gandhi adopted his methodology of satyagraha (devotion to the truth), or non-violent protest, for the first time, calling on his fellow Indians to defy the new law and suffer the punishments for doing so, rather than resist through violent means. This plan was adopted, leading to a seven-year struggle in which thousands of Indians were jailed (including Gandhi himself on many occasions), flogged, or even shot, for striking, refusing to register, burning their registration cards, or engaging in other forms of non-violent resistance.
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Wanda_Truth Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:20 PM
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5. First the ignore you...then they laugh at you... then they fight...
and then you win.

I think of this Ghandi quote frequently lately as the truth about 9/11 is following this path.

We are definately about to win!
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:40 PM
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6. On 9/11/99 I created the namesake I use here.
On 9/11/99 I created the gnome necromancer Malmapus, which became my handle for quite a bit of other forums. Malmapus still resides on the Everquest Test Server. Which at the time was a small population for the size that EverQuest was.

"Mal Mal" as he is called now by old folks on the server, was my second character. My first being the half elf druid Tanthalas. Unfortunetly, I created Tanthalas shortly before Everquest tested it's patch for race war PvP. I started Tanthalas in the city Qeynos which was a human city, and being a half elf he was aligned after this patch with the elves. Soooo needless to say he died alot.

But, I saw that the folks who played gnomes on the server seemed to be a happening bunch. So I decided to leave Tanthalas and then created Malmapus. I made sure to create him with the largest pork chop sideburns I could find (they became his trademark, and these things are important to gnome, so writes Emperor Noodles VII in his life biography "Noodles, What a Gnome!" volume XXVII page 128).

So, with all the bad that 9/11 has come to mean, to me there still is that part of it where I created this character that has evolved over the years (I literally have written numerous short stories using Malmapus..quite a bit have been lost to the world) and got to hang with some of the best players that Everquest Test Server has ever seen.


So this is for all my gnomies

::pours a 40 of Ogre Swill::

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wovenpaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:18 PM
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7. This is the Gandhi quote that I keep over my desk.....
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall - think of it, ALWAYS."

Gandhi


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Starkraven Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:22 PM
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8. Kick and Recommended!!!!! nt
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 04:27 PM
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9. Gandhi's methods could bring down Bush today
Provided, of course, enough people participate.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:14 PM
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11. K&R
:dem:
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