So...how many days long is the griefgasm scheduled to last?

[SoCalDem]

We had to "mourn" St Ronnie of Reagan for about a week.. The press has been buzzing about the 5 year "anniversary" for weeks now (with a childlike wonder..like before christmas)..

All day yesterday was devoted to it, today too..

Will September become 9-11 month?

I cannot help but think that all the money and attention spent "memorializing" this tragic event would have been well spent in actually investigating and providing real answers..and perhaps some prosecutions for people in charge of security..

I think part of what's driving the continuing anger and grief, is the fact that no one paid for this gigantic lapse of National Security..no one was charged, no one got demoted..no one got fired..no one got prosecuted..

The thing that flashed through my mind was this:

How bad of a Seretary of Defense does one have to be, to be at your desk INSIDE the headquarters of the military of the most powerful nation on earth...and have your own building be slammed into...an HOUR after you have seen the same thing happen two two other buildings in the US?? and after the president has apparently been told "we are at war"..

just sayin'

[NYCGirl]

1. Ends tomorrow. NT

[MsAnthropy]

2. Drama Queen Americans--Steven Pizzo

I've never been accused of being a sentimentalist. I”m a “move-on” kinda guy when it comes to bad things. I deal with the mess and move on. I don't dwell. Because, as my mother used to say when I had a scraped knee, “Stop picking at that or it will never heal.”

But we've become a nation that picks at things that never heal.

Which I suppose is why I'm so turned off by all this 5-year anniversary 9/11 coverage. I don't know about you but I moved on four years ago.

Is it just me, or have Americans become the Mothers of All Drama Queens?


The rest is here: http://www.newsforreal.com/

[SoCalDem]

5. We are a nation of "scab-pickers"

remember how Mom always told us to not pick the scab, or it will just keep bleeding?..we like the blood, apparently :shrug:

[walldude]

8. Sad isn't it? Let's rub this in the faces of the families of 9/11

victims till it becomes politically pointless. Nothing like having to relive the horrible death of a loved one over and over so some politicans can score points with their "base"...

[MsAnthropy]

12. "Fetishizing" grief for political purposes is so obscene

cynical, cruel, and inhumane

[treestar]

16. Americans are drama queens, at least as through the media

Ever notice how everything "skyrockets" and never merely increases? "Plummets" and never merely decreases? Everything is "unprecedented" and "changes your life forever."

Our culture now is overly emotional on many fronts, and this is one of the symptoms. And how can the mawkishly sentimental rule the world? That's the absurd part.

[n2doc]

3. 'till nov. 7th... n/t

[JeffR]

4. Until November 7, is my prediction

;(

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

6. They haven't scheduled the climactic two minute hate yet

Once they announce that we'll know.

[kenny blankenship]

7. How many days is ein tausend jahre Reich?

[Lexingtonian]

9. tomorrow the Republican attack ads begin in force

C'mon, all that's going on today is just a lull in the game for power as far as the R's are concerned.

You somehow imagine that R's care about the larger affairs of the world. It takes a while to understand that they're truly nihilists, whatever the pretensions to humanity, and their ego is all that actually matters. The part of the world they care about is purely imaginary, resides within their skulls. Ego about Fame, about getting to a "Heaven", about finishing off the people that offend their vanity. They're not incompetent because they're incapable of competence- it's that they absolutely and truly Don't Care about the affairs of the world until and unless these affect their egos.

[StClone]

20. I see fit to agree

They have planned this out and do not want to appear "crass" for exploiting 9-11 for political ends. All hell breaks loose on 9/12, though. Overplaying their hand has been think tanked, yet I think they have actually done themselves harm by leaning on 9/11 too much and people have become desensitized to it. People may now want to move on and ask for a change. The Rs may be left in the dump of bad memories in that change. Same with the ABC's Crockumentary having smeared the facts into a parallel universe of TV-dom has dealt a blow to it as an effective propaganda tool.

[Blue_In_AK]

10. I'm really quite sick of all of this...

No disrespect to the victims and their families, but, for Christ's sake, people die every single day from both natural and manmade causes. Man's inhumanity to man is no new story. People are killed all the time as a result of one or the other side's fanatical beliefs. Our victims are no more special than Iraq's victims or Africa's victims or anybody else's victims. PEOPLE DIE, period.

Sorry for the rant, I'm just getting kind of cranky, I guess. Flame me if you want.

[SoCalDem]

11. No flames from me..

I think this sort of thing is pointless and maudlin..

I don't think it should be forgotten, but it does not need to be re-lived over and over and over and over

[Bluerthanblue]

24. thanks to both of you- for voicing

something that has been bothering me for a long time-
Ya know, most every person I know has had at least one "9/11" episode in their lifetime, some of us have had multiple ones. Having tragic, violent, sudden traumas tossed into our lives, and having to find ways to keep carrying on through mourning, sorrow and loss isn't easy- even as years go by, some losses don't diminish, or ease- yet, our journeys aren't glamorized, exploited or shared with masses of people, and those we have lost, quite often, haven't become national heroes simply because they died tragicly-

I in NO way mean this to be-little the losses that many people are coping with as a result of 9/11- but I'm quite honestly sick to DEATH of having my face rubbed in their grief- thousands upon thousands of people have died because of the governments decision to not stop the needless murdering of people, but add to it by waging war again and again --in a vain attempt to do what????- bring back the dead? avenge their blood???

Now, I apologize for the rant... which I can't seem to silence, or delete before sending....
enough is enough.... there are wounds enough for everyone...there has to be a way to stop this capitalistic society of ours from putting every single thing up 'for sale' or 'for corporate profit'- seems like our biggest exports are death destruction and now 'grief'......

aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!------

i'll s.t.f.u.

[treestar]

13. A lot of people have paid for it - just in little ways, and they

weren't the perpetrators. But I hear you about the use of 911 to make ourselves out as victims, though most of us have not really had our lives "changed forever." (Oh, the drama.)

I saw the flags at half mast today and realized that people are likely to milk this for the forseeable future. At least on any election year.

The idea of turning it into a holiday (Patriot Day) annoys me no end. Are we that into victimhood?

We should be celebrating Sept. 17 (Constitution Day). That would show the terrorists. This continuing grief frenzy could only be making the terrorists happy.

[Blue_In_AK]

18. Oh, my God, is somebody actually suggesting that?

A fucking HOLIDAY??? Again, at the risk of sounding callous, I don't understand why the people who died on 9/11 (with the exception of the firefighters who truly did risk their lives and perhaps the guys who grounded the plane in Pennsylvania, if that is truly what happened) should acquire hero status or be regarded as some kind of super patriots or whatever, giving their lives for their country. What happened is they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time, going to work like everybody else. It's unfortunate - and sad - but, please, let's just move on.

Is 12/7/41 a holiday? How about 4/19/95, the day Timothy McVeigh took out the Murragh Building? 4/20/99, the Columbine slayings. When does it end?

[treestar]

21. IA, I've been saying if one widow/er has remarried, then the rest of

us should be able to get on with our lives, which would include not every political question being referenced to 911.

And we've killed more than 3000 people in the quest to get revenge, not that they had much to do with it, but they are dead, too, and I would think even the freepers should have their thirst for revenge satisfied.

[Sherman A1]

14. My wife has a term she likes to use....

"Pity Party", and I have had enough of this one. Where is our grief for what has been done to the Constitution and our liberties?

[aikoaiko]

15. I think its reasonable to reflect on the events of five years ago. nt

[SoCalDem]

17. Reflection, yes.. Wallowing, .....well that's another thing

:eyes:

[symbolman]

19. It ends when someone tells the Biggest Whopper

from the Bush admin, and stains a Red Dress at the same time :)

As for Rummy Dummy.. did you see that film they made about two years ago about 911 with Timothy Bottoms (From the South Park Makers, "That's My Bush!") starring in it, can't remember the name of it, lent the tape out and never got it back, and I WANT it back because it's much like the ABC version of "reality" - another Right Wing wet dream..

Bush is on the plane AF One fleeing the scene, when Ari rushes in and says, "Sir,there's a threat against the AF One.." and "Bush rises steadfastly exclaims, "is it a CREDIBLE Threat?" (I am not shitting you, black humor if anything..)

But one of the best parts was Rummy sitting around doing his nails at his desk in the Pentagon, clock on the wal, when WHUMP, there's a big smack -- the next scene Rumsfeld is OUTSIDE the Pentagon and he's RUNNING beside a stretcher of an injured man HOLDING A SALINE BAG HIGH IN THE AIR!

Like he had Nothing BETTER to do at that time, maybe calling in a group of Fighter pilots BEFORE that, since apparently the chain of command had been changed to allow HIM to call that in, instead of NORAD, and he was no where to be found.

Oh, he was OUTSIDE being an EMT with his little saline bag dash.

These people think we're retarded, or alhziemer riddled, maybe dumb as Bush..

Think about it, DISNEY'S MAGIC, along with ABC's LIES and 40 million spent JUST to make it not so apparent that BUSH IS A FUCKUP - don't it make you proud. Proof that the powers that be could run a POTATOE for office if they wanted to.. :)

[Blue_In_AK]

22. POTATOE? lol

Thanks for the smile - and the memory. Dan Quayle lives.

[symbolman]

23. LOL

We're all Happy Campers here :)

YOu say Potato and I say Potatoe, you say tomato and I say tomotoe, let's call the whole thing off! Old song.. :)

Dan Quale was INFINATELY better than little Boots, but Cheney would have shot him just the same..

[Neecy]

25. you wonder, really who this is for

I can almost guarantee that nobody who lost a family member on 9/11 is glued to the television set today. They're probably running as far and as fast from this coverage as possible.

Yes, it was a large event and having a brief, tasteful remembrance is appropriate. However, having this stretch on for days nonstop seems self-absorbed to me, an unseemly national breast-beating that makes it appear that Americans have the market when it comes to loss and suffering. Very unsettling.