Nothing really changed on 9/11

[MoseyWalker]

no matter what you hear.

we are still the same people doing the same things, thinking the same thoughts, and living the same lives we did before.

We now have to listen to a lot more manipulation, or lyin'-nation crap, but we still do our jobs.

we still take care of our children.

we still shop for overpriced food and clothes.

we still hate what this country has become.

Nothing has changed for those who look for truth.

Nothing.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

1. I Disagree. A Lot Of Things Changed For A Lot Of People.

Including, of course, the families of about 3000 people and then some. But to say 9-11 ultimately had no real individual emotional impacts is quite a stretch.

For example, to this VERY DAY whenever I see an even somewhat low flying plane in the sky, my brain can't help but visualize it crashing into one of the twin towers and thinking about the horror of the people on board. To this very day.

Many of us were impacted deeply by 9-11 and have been changed forever because of it. What hasn't changed is the GOP's willingness to abandon all that is heartfelt and human for sake of political gain.

[Canuckistanian]

5. Of course it had an emotional impact

But did it change your world view, your basic perception of reality, your opinion of right and wrong?

I think that's what the OP was saying.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

9. Absolutely.

Prior to that I didn't think I'd see something so horrible and on such a grand scale occur here. Most Americans would agree with me on that. 9-11 awoke many of us up to the fact that there are extremists that not only have the hatred to kill us with not a second thought about it, but that are determined and capable enough to have actually done so on our own soil. Prior to 9-11 many or most of us knew about terrorism overseas and how the threat existed to Americans off of our shores, but we were too cozy with the notion that we are safe as we commute to our jobs and go about our day. My views on the world changed a bit that day as well because it occurred to me that the world is one big equal playing field in certain ways, and that nobody is safe from another's threats or hatred.

Yes, 9-11 changed many things for a lot of Americans.

[Canuckistanian]

10. I may have a different viewpoint, but I see yours

Israel has it PLO and Hamas. The UK has it's IRA. Spain has it's ETA.

And we Canadians had our FLQ.
Although certainly not as deadly as those other groups, I realized at an early age that exremists are with us, probably will be in the future.

But you don't change your political view based on some hotheads and what they managed to get away with.

What you DO do is seek out the moderates, try to find common ground and promote understanding.

And you prosecute the ones who go too far.

This situation has never existed in America.

[pinkpops]

2. It's the video images that made it seem so monumental...

I mean, of course it was tragic for many people, but no more so that the earthquakes and tsunamis.
The fact that there were cameras there to capture the fires, people jumping, etc, must have been part of the plan. You can figure that NYC is full of tourists with cameras, and the networks are there. The perpetrators yanked our strings and it worked.

[savemefromdumbya]

3. what's changed

taxpayers' money is being siphoned off to fight a stupid war in Iraq
3000 people died and hundreds injured on 9/11, nearly 3000 soldiers died and thousands maimed in Iraq, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis died and injured.
the country is in danger of losing its constitution and people their rights

[Canuckistanian]

4. I've always suspected that statement

There have been other terrorist attacks, other crises. And they never "changed everything".

Did the '93 WTC bombing "change everything? No.

Did the '95 OK bombing "change everything"? No.

On a historical level, did the London Blitz bombings "change everything" for Londoners or Brits in general? No.

Did Pearl Harbor "change everything?" No again.

Kennedy's assassination "change everything"? Not on your life.

No, everyone went on as before, the routine unchanged, defiant to the bitter end.

It's called "the stiff upper lip" and it's supposed to be the defining character of a free, unrepentant and proud people.

You're right, nothing has changed for those who look for the truth.

[puffthemagicdragon]

6. EVERYTHING has changed

I have to disagree...the feeling in the air has changed, the way the world looks at america has changed, the future my future children will grow up in is forever changed, I used to have buddies in the early 90's that could fly to Europe with a little bud in their pocket, I didnt have to fear that our gov. would create some hollywood style terrorist situation, everything has changed.

[Jcrowley]

7. Pretty much accurate

The problem is not that 9-11 happened, or that it was so awful.

The problem is that US society had already become such a tottering edifice, so corrupt, morally feeble & confused, that one such incident was quite capable of causing the entire socio-political fabric to disintegrate.

Of course it was a very unpleasant incident, but other countries suffer those kinds of tragedies, and far worse, all the time (caused, more often than not, by us).

The outpourings of self-pity and wailing about this one modest-sized (by historical standards) tragedy are the most disgusting thing I've ever witnessed. It's really the equivalent of a huge spoiled bully who goes around the schoolyard pummeling weak defenseless kids all the time. Then one day he scrapes his knuckles while beating someone up -- and he's stunned. He can't believe how much the boo-boo on his knuckles hurt. It strikes him as the most God-awful injustice he can conceive of. He starts writing symphonies & elegies to commemorate, to distill the essence of, his own magnificent pain.

I mean no offense to the brave people and the innocents who died that day. But the societal reaction to the event is the greatest testimony to how sick this country really was, long before this particular event ever happened.

Let's remember that GW Bush had already stolen the presidency with the whole world watching, 10 months before this thing came to pass -- and there was scarcely so much as a flicker of outrage, protest or resistance against that crime.

[razors edge]

8. patriot act, tourcher, spying,

nah nothing changed.