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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:30 AM Original message |
I have a question about Sandy Berger, please help. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. Here's information from Media Matters: |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Wow thanks for the link. |
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sgxnk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. ridiculous link |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Please refer to the link below on his plea agreement |
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sgxnk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. here's what was written on his guilty plea |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Oh I'm not disputing that |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. Swiped from the National Archives vault |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. he copied his own notes which were archived, and took the copies |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. His notes, his ideas, but our property (and classified) |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
41. nope, that was made very clear in the investigation--copies, not originals |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. He took multiple copies of |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. Wait a minute |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
67. Copies can be originals. |
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Feuerhexe (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 01:32 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Tricky tricky and none of the newspaper articles make it clear. |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. That was the breach--he wasn't allowed to take notes and |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. Exactly they were his own notes...and he should have had a right to copy |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's true -- But it wasnt necessarily nefarious |
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sgxnk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. um, no |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Apparently DU is not right-wing enough for you. |
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sgxnk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. nothing |
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Feuerhexe (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. Sandy Berger is a leftist? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
68. That's A Completely Unfair And Inappropriate Statement. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Read the Media Matters and use some simple logic |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Um, no to the "Um, no": He put notes in his pants POCKETS |
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sgxnk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. for pete's sake |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Alright. Mea culpa |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
44. And where does "stuffed in his pants" show up in the DOJ press release? |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. You are right xgsnk, however there are slightly mitigating circumstances. |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. He didn't "Make" copies |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. It's confusing because the originals were copies. |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. It's like a giant game of telephone, isn't it? |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. The documents were written by Richard C Clarke.... |
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gumby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
7. Rush Limbaugh always |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Amazing how that happens |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
10. What bothers me the most is that the documents were lost. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. No documents were lost. |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Well, not exactly. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Ah, thanks for the clarification |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. You are so wrong. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:45 PM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Guess you have NEVER done any real research, on your own |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Ahem, read ABOVE |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I get so damned tired of folks regurgitating blogs and |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Thanks for that explanation |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. As others said, Merh...excellent post! |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. hi cat |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
13. From his plea agreement..... |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. It seems to me that he may have |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Each copies had handwritten notes in the margins |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. The plea agreement does sort of read that way, doesn't it? |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Please stop making assumptions that are based on your understanding |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. based on the newspaper article I just read.... |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. GO read the court documents on file |
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Feuerhexe (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Do you have a link for the court documents? |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. See my post 33 for a description of the case |
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Feuerhexe (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Aha you work for PACER don't you! |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. It really is a cool site |
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Feuerhexe (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Thanks |
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Feuerhexe (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. I read they were copies, as in computer print outs, of the originals, |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. See Post 48...I think you are right..... |
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Feuerhexe (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. I can make sense of it, I think. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
53. My goodness you have an interesting name: "FormerDem06?" |
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FormerDem06 (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. One day I am going to save my reponse to this post... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 03:06 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Thanks.... |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
50. "stuffing security documents in his pants and socks" |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
36. please see my post #33 |
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sistersofmercy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. ((((((((((THANKS)))))))))))) REALLY GREAT INFO!!!!!!!! |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. you are welcome |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
59. please pmail me if you need to. |
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Sam Odom (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
61. Berger Will Plead Guilty To Taking Classified Paper |
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