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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:28 PM
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What Olbermann did WAS amazing
But do we have to call him the best ANCHOR on television? Call him a commentor, or your favourite anchor. But an actual anchor's strengths are not judged on his political commentary, no matter how good.
I see DUers complain about the media getting political all the time. And now that one has come out and said something they agree with, though it is the truth, they're all proclaiming him as the next messiah.
Please, let's try to hold EVERYONE to the same standards.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:30 PM
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1. You are correct
Katie Couric is an "anchor".
Let's not smear that stink on Keith.
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Caoimhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:31 PM
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2. LOL
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:19 PM
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44. !
:spray:
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eccles12 Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:31 PM
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3. Agreed! But he's the best of whatever right now. nt
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:31 PM
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4. I'm tired of being "fair" to all. This is political warfare. Go Keith! nt
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:32 PM
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9. See and your view is one I more agree with
In North America our belief that the press should be nuetral allows for a mass duping of the public. Whereas in other parts of the world there's no false idealogy about the press. One paper is left one is right, read the one you like best.
How it should be.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:35 PM
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11. It's worse than that
In America every newspaper feels the need to find "another opinion" and print it with the same validity- even if it's patently FALSE or absurd.

If Bush said the earth is flat, the American media would trot out some quacks to "prove" it's true.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:31 PM
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5. cause a really good anchor shows both sides, the truth and the repub side
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 02:33 PM by jsamuel
but spends 3/4 the time on the latter

:sarcasm:


In truth, all sides are not equal. Sometimes there is a definite right and a definite wrong.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:32 PM
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8. Haha, you nailed it. Who cares what an anchor is, GO KEITH! nt
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:31 PM
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6. Hum, I think it's a bit different
when someone in the media has the courage to speak the truth....if they all were fair and balanced (just visit mediamatters.org) - there wouldn't be the need to be such cheerleaders as we are. The left has been "marginalized" and finally, someone is speaking out.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:32 PM
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7. In your opinion who *is* the best anchor?
Because, after all, we are just expressing our opinions on who we think is the best anchor, right?

He's well-informed, funny, articulate and interesting. And that's not even getting to the political commentary.

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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:33 PM
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10. I Like Kieth
But that's based on more of the things you said, than his political comments.
But, I'd say my fav is Alistair Yates...
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:35 PM
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12. I see what you're saying but in a media environment where...
...liberal voices are routinely silenced, you have to agree that Keith Olbermann demonstrates uncommon courage.

:hi:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:37 PM
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13. I believe the response to Keith is so strong in his favor becauce
EVERY other TV anchor either saysNOYHING or supports Shrub!

Remember where you are posting this! DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND!!!!!

There was a similar response the very few times Tweety actually gave a hard time to so Pub shill!

Shrub has generated some extremely strong negative feelings in Dems, and when someone with a national TV following demostrates the courage to stray from the standard,notonce but 2 days in a row, with the feelings many of us on DU have been saying for a long time, what other response would you expect?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:42 PM
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20. Please, point out when another anchor, a sane one, "Supported" Bush
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:46 PM
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22. If you're not for us, you're against us.
;-)
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:03 PM
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27. Tweety does it ALL THE TIME! Have you never heard him say
extremely good things about Shrub. And I didn't mean only Shrubsupport either! Listen to Tweety or Wolfe almost any day. When there's a Pub on, Tweet yends the interview with "well, good luck to you, I really like you." Wolfe is a bit more subtle, but with him, you can tell by the way he questions his guests, and if he lets then talk and answer the questions, or stops them in mid sentence with an objection.

Dobbs is a pretty straight shooter and calls out anybody he has a problem with, no matter what party.

The only other talking head I can think of who has smacked around the Prez, the Congress, or almost ANY candidate, is Jack Cafferty, although Jack is only a show host on the weekends.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:17 PM
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42. everytime there is an interview
in which the "journalist" spews the right-wing talking points and allows the republicans (cause they never have on the other side) to get away with flat-out-lies with no follow-up. And that is: everytime there is an interview.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:38 PM
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14. very amazing
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:44 PM
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21. How so?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:40 PM
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15. Yet another KO thread...fuck.
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 03:00 PM by Texas Explorer
My earlier threads will bear out my stance on KO's commentary last night, but do we really need yet another thread when there's other just-as-important topics on this board?

How about giving this one some love, huh?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2117383&mesg_id=2117383
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:41 PM
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18. If your threads aren't holding their own, you need to ask yourself; why?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:42 PM
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19. It's not MY thread...I admire KO immensely, but we need to move on
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 02:43 PM by Texas Explorer
What are you implying anyway?
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:49 PM
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23. we need to move on because YOU say so.....
LOL. is this a plea for unity?
:rofl:
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:04 PM
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29. No. It's a suggestion. We've established KO's brilliance and we
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 03:06 PM by Texas Explorer
have an election to win in just 8 weeks.

I noticed that you took time to chastise me but I don't see your response to the link I provided for a thread that I feel is, at this moment, more worthy of DUers attention. After all, when people want a poll DUed, people don't say:


"We should DU this poll because YOU say so?"

Which is more important? Showing your hatred of me or supporting a new 9/11 investigation?

Here is the link again:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2117383&mesg_id=2117383

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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:21 PM
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34. i didn't see anything newsy or way worthy in that thread
there is 0 chance of this investigation getting off the ground or helping at all in time for november.
so i'm going to take a pass. sorry if you equate not being supported with being hated. gosh, that sounds like our president! LOL. a bit confused and um, melodramatic. but good luck anyway.
:hi:
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:55 PM
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26. Thanks for bumping the thread!
Rather than posting to a thread you dislike, you could start a thread complaining about all those threads you dislike?

Or--you could start a thread about one of those "more important" topics.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:41 PM
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16. Right now, yes we do because no one else is being that
straight forward and challenging.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:41 PM
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17. Party pooper
x(
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:54 PM
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24. Is a minor terminology inaccuracy worthy of a flamewar?
:boring:
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:04 PM
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30. Is it not?
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:10 PM
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32. I love it when two foreigners fight
So sexy! :*
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:22 PM
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35. Fuck that suntan lotion hoggin', soccer playing, cocaine exportin' bastard
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:30 PM
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37. Hey!
Our head of government is a leftist and yours is a conservative! Nyah nyah nyah!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:32 PM
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38. Well, your "Leftist" government still has less social programs
than our conservative one!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:34 PM
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39. Yeah?
Well, your women have flat butts.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:14 PM
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41. and they go to jamaica to get laid
it gets old explaining to the rent a rastas that you're from the usa.
where people do know how to get down. :P
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:54 PM
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25. It's not that we have to
It's just that it feels so damn good to do it.

Besides, maybe it will feed his ego a bit and encourage him to express himself like that more often.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:04 PM
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28. Okay, I give up.
Who's better than Olberman these days?

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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:12 PM
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33. He didn't say Olberman was bad
HEyHEY just stated that he didn't think he qualified as a news anchor, but felt he was more of a commentator and should be thought of that way. I tend to agree with him.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:34 PM
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40. he writes the show. and also does commentary. that makes him both.
he is more than an anchor, not less.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:06 PM
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31. We have to restore free and fair news and commentary in this country
If Olberman is the only one willing to step forward and be the first to do it, so be it. We need to back him and encourage others to do so.

Pardon me, but I don't consider any talking head who reads copy about sensational murders, gossip and the latest WH spin to be a journalist, regardless of how well they're paid or who they work for.

Today, Olmberman is more of a journalist than anyone else in the business. Like it or not.

Time is running very, very short. If we lose this election there may never be another chance to save our democratic form of government, our economy, our freedom and our future.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:23 PM
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36. so my fave is not who i think is best?
say wha?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:18 PM
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43. Your jealousy is showing. n/t
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:24 PM
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45. I think if a Democratic Prez were fucking up as bad as Bush,
Keith would be doing "special comments" about him/her as well... The administration has been and currently is screwing the country over big time, and it's nice to finally hear somebody on TV "news" that still seems to have some sort of link to reality.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:25 PM
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46. It's a news show. He's the anchor. Simple as that.
Thw way in which he covers the top five stories of the day, plus Oddball, is a little different than the standard "network" format. But it's still a news show, and he reports the news as well as commenting on it. Countdown is not a pundit/talk show like Hardball, Scarborough, O'Reilly, etc. It is a news show, and it has an anchor named Keith Olbermann.

Walter Cronkite did the same thing. So did Edward R. Murrow.

Keith carries on the BEST tradition of what an anchor ought to be. Sometimes the truth compels him to make a "special comment." Good for him. He's un-covering, and TELLING, the truth.

Bake
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