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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:39 PM
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Bush regime dress code: "Before choosing a skirt to wear, sit down in it
facing a mirror."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4171039.html
Sept. 7, 2006, 6:37PM
Special Counsel backs off memo on casual dress
Spokesman says guidelines were for 'discussion' of possible rules
By ELIZABETH WILLIAMSON

WASHINGTON — For the U.S. Office of Special Counsel — charged with protecting federal workers and whistle-blowers from illegal treatment — it seemed an effort to protect its own employees from crimes of fashion.

Last month, the agency devoted part of its employee newsletter to "Business Casual" do's and don'ts...

• Men: Avoid sneakers for receptions, leave earrings at home and strap on a "conservative watch."

• Women: Wear the conservative watch, plus tailored pants, tailored shirts, tailored sweaters, and "a tailored purse... that hangs on your shoulder is often advantageous as it frees your hands for greetings (hand shakes) or holding a beverage." For those who cannot master this, "leaving your purse locked in the trunk is preferable." Also "make certain you can walk comfortably in your shoes."

But what some employees found ironic, coming from an agency whose job includes fighting workplace sex discrimination, was the advice that women avoid tight pants and, "before choosing a skirt to wear, sit down in it facing a mirror."...

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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:43 PM
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1. It would just be nice if the "business casual" fad would simply go away
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:45 PM
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7. Speak for yourself
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 03:47 PM by RamboLiberal
I love business casual. Course I'm a back office IT worker. There's a place for dressed business attire and a place for business casual. And a place for common sense.

BTW I think they're out of fashion on the men's earrings. See quite a few guys in business attire that now have a tasteful stud or earring. Ed Bradley of CBS news for instance.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:47 PM
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11. Bite your tongue!
I'm not wearing a suit and tie again if I can help it!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:06 PM
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20. Not a fad, a trend.
I'm glad when I don't have to wear a forty dollar silk soup catcher.

--IMM
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 05:15 PM
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32. Applause.
I have a closet full of those expensive worthless things. The gent who likes to play dress up so much may have mine as well. Enjoy!

More and more enlightened businesses seem to realize that employees can be comfortable and professional at the same time. Take this tie and stuff it...
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 05:13 PM
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31. "business casual" LIve long and prosper
If you don't like it don't spoil it for the rest of us.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:43 PM
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2. Also, please avoid dressing like a dominatrix, like Kindasleezy Rice. n/t
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:19 PM
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23. !
:spray:
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:43 PM
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3. Condi oughta read that
Her skirts are very inappropriate for her position as Secretary of State, and she sits with her legs crossed in the manner of a truck driver or teenage boy, instead of modestly crossed at the ankle as etiquette demands.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:14 PM
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22. And Laura, too. n/t
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:27 PM
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26. Next SoS: Sharon Stone. (nt)
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 05:19 PM
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34. Ya mean like THIS???
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 05:26 PM
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36. …and they send her to the middle east.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:43 PM
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4. And don't forget your fake smiles............... nt
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:45 PM
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9. And underwear
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:48 PM
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13. Fake underwear?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:44 PM
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5. 'STRAP ON a conservative watch"
:eyes:
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:48 PM
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12. Now, now, now, don't be naughty . . .
We're talking government servants here . . .
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:51 PM
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15. This implies that some were wearing RADICAL STRAP ON
...watches. Shame on them.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:19 PM
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24. No, they were wearing liberal watches.
It should have said "wear "conservative" shoes and "conservative" purse and....
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 05:08 PM
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30. What's a liberal watch? Is it 20 minutes faster than a conservative watch
I mean they are slow you know.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:55 PM
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16. I don't know why they just didn't say, 'wear the Mickey Mouse watch'
and been done with it.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:45 PM
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6. What a waste of effort.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:45 PM
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8. "frees your hands for greetings (hand shakes) or holding a beverage."
Sounds more like they want the women serving the beverages.

"Get me some more coffee, sweetie."
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:46 PM
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10. It's easy to mock this stuff, but people really do appreciate . . .
Guidelines to acceptable dress, especially when they have to represent their agency in public.

I read this article a few days ago, and it seems as if they were trying for a light touch that fell flat. The advice was -- for the most part -- unobjectionable.

The sex discrimination/skirt issue is a bit of a red herring. Very few men wear skirts and those who do are going to be noted by their coworkers regardless.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:29 PM
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27. Very few men wear skirts
and those who do are going to be noted by their coworkers regardless.

You have a gift for understatement.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:49 PM
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14. Like a 1950s home ec textbook
I long for the day when the youth of America start showing up in the halls of power with blue hair and mohawks.
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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:55 PM
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17. they aren't allowed to wear liberal watches??
Why am I not surprised?

:spank:
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:00 PM
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18. That's right ladies, NO 'BASIC INSTINCT SKIRTS' will be allowed......
in this conservative government.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:02 PM
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19. Shoulder stap purse.....big problem....story.
A bunch of us gals were waiting at Spago's for the boss and her boss. Her boss comes in, like a big Clinton guy (sort of favored him) and he goes around to hug everyone. I stood up and my purse swung out and toppled all the white (thank goodness) wine glasses like dominos and bam, there goes wine all over his pants, and all over the table and floor.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:11 PM
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21. Does this make your purse . . .
A Weapon of Muscat Destruction?
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 05:01 PM
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29. Ha! At least I wasn't fired.
He had a sense of humor. My direct boss was late but she'd would've been hell to deal with.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:20 PM
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25. Has there been a problem with Cheney's skirts?
Or is this just for the Office of Special Counsel? ;-)
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:54 PM
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28. Actually, that is good advice. n/t
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 05:16 PM
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33. Not that odd.
You want to make sure you aren't showing more than you want to.

Or less. :)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 05:24 PM
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35. "before choosing a skirt to wear, sit down facing me. Now wiggle a little"
"That's it... that's it... oh, yeah, bay-bee. You're lookin' proper now!"
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