Quick -- Need help to respond to a horrible Clinton chain letter

[Dems2002]

Quick,

I just received a ridiculous chain e-mail below -- I want to respond ASAP with a quick Bush comparison...This makes me sick!

Dems

More of what we already knew - I'm just amazed that this kind of stuff does not make ALL citizens run screaming from anything these two set out to do. Love you, Maribeth/Mom ;-(


Bill & Hillary:
Worse than you thought & worth remembering and this came from a Democrat

Dear Mr. Ex President Clinton:

I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that, and I am sending my "Thank you" for what you have done, specifically:

1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick. Did I leave anyone out?

2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex. I had really planned to wait until he was a little older to discuss it with him, but now he knows more about it than I did as a senior in college.

3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place (especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to know is what the meaning of "it" is. It really is great to know that certain sexual acts are not sex, and one person may have sex while the other one does NOT have sex.

4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie "Wag the Dog" could be plausible after all.

5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon Johnson look truthful, and John Kennedy look moral.

6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying about Democratic campaign fund raising.

7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4 imprisonment's from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the other "Clinton" scandals.

8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much of our foreign policy, and flying all over the world on "vacations" carefully disguised as necessary trips.

9 Thank you, also, for "finding" millions of dollars (I really didn't need it in the first place, and I can't think of a more deserving group of recipients for my hard-earned tax dollars) for all of your globe-trotting.. I understand you, the family and your cronies have logged in more time aboard Air Force One than any other administration.

10. Now that you've left the White House, thanks for the 140 pardons of convicted felons and indicted felons-in-exile. We will love to have them rejoin society. (Not to mention the scores you pardoned while Governor of Arkansas)

11. Thanks also for removing the White House silverware. I'm sure that Laura Bush didn't like the pattern anyway. Also, enjoy the housewarming gifts you've received from your "friends."

12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing of the White House for vandalizing and destroying government property on the way out. I also appreciate removing all of that excess weight ( China , silverware, linen, towels, ash trays, soap, pens, magnetic compass, flight manuals, etc.) out of Air Force 1. The weight savings means burning less fuel, thus less tax dollars spent on jet fuel. Thank you!

13. And finally, please ensure that Hillary enjoys the $8 million dollar advance for her "tell-all" book and you, Bill, the $10 million advance for your memoirs. Who says crime doesn't pay!

14. The last and most important point - thank you for forcing Israel to let Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners". However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center . This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was censored in the US from all later reports. Why shouldn't Americans know the real truth?

What a guy!!

If you agree that the American public must be made aware of these facts, pass this on. God bless America and THANK YOU (once again) for spending my taxes so wisely and frugally.

SINCERELY,
A US Citizen
PS.
Please pass along a special thank you to Al Gore for "inventing" the Internet, without which I would not be able to send this wonderful, factual e-mail.

AND THE REST OF THE STORY Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York State Senator, now comes under the "Congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan," which means that even if she never gets reelected, she STILL receives her Congressional salary until she dies. (Would it not be nice if all Americans were pension eligible after only 4 years?)

If Bill outlives her, he then inherits HER salary until HE dies. He is already getting his Presidential salary until he dies. If Hillary outlives Bill, she also gets HIS salary until she dies. Guess who pays for that?

WE DO!

It's common knowledge that in order for her to establish NY residency, they purchased a million dollar-plus house in upscale Chappaqua , New York . Makes sense. They are entitled to Secret Service protection for life. Still makes sense.

Here is where it becomes interesting. Their mortgage payments hover at around $10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residence HAD to be built within the acreage to house the Secret Service agents.

The Clintons charge the Federal government $10,000 monthly rent for the use of that extra residence, which is just about equal to their mortgage payment. This means that we, the taxpayers, are paying the Clinton's salary, mortgage, transportation, safety and security, as well as the salaries for their 12 man staff -- and, this is all perfectly legal!

When she runs for President, will you vote for her?

How many people can YOU send this to?
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[karlrschneider]

1. I would Reply to All with a short comment:

"Whoever wrote this shit is a god-damned fucking liar. If you ever send this kind of crap to me again, I will hurt you."

:grr:

[Richardo]

2. I'm sure snopes.com has debunked it.

I know #12 is another Atta (not the hijacker) and the WH vandalism never took place.

When someone posts the link send it to EVERYBODY she sent the original to.

[EstimatedProphet]

7. I can't find this particular one

This one isn't in Snopes, although i'm sure all the parts of it are.

[eccles12]

3. My advice, just ignore it. It will die. People remember what it was like

to live under Clinton administrations as compared to living under Bush administrations. A chain letter won't change reality. They also remember that all those personal attacks were Republican instigated and dominated and whatever didn't get done in Clinton's last term they can thank the House Managers for.

[rubberducky]

4. I am totally speechless!

[gully]

5. Check the archives. Trolls always post this bullshit under the guise of

"help me respond."

As for oral sex, the Republicans couldn't get enough of Bill Clinton's personal life, that's not his fault. I've had to teach my child about 911, torture, WMD's, pre-emptive wars, and religious hypocrisy. Give me an oral sex question any day compared to this shit.

That's all I'm personally going to respond to as I don't generally take this kind of "bait."

[proud2BlibKansan]

11. My thoughts exactly

Low post count + Clinton bashing email = troll

[dorktv]

18. I am not a troll and I have asked for help debunking these things.

If I am not capable of doing something on my own, I would like to know that I am not going to be looked down on for asking for help.

[gully]

20. You're not capable?

Sorry to hear that.

[dorktv]

24. Is there a reason you need to insult a person who can admit to not

being able to do everything? If I am having trouble I am smart enough to admit it and ask for help. Or did you want me to be like our President?

[gully]

25. I was sympathizing.

Sorry you feel affronted.

[SteppingRazor]

6. Before you even get into Bush...

I'd take a moment to debunk the lies in this letter.

"Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying about Democratic campaign fund raising."

Huh?


"Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4 imprisonment's from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the other "Clinton" scandals."

Um ... no one in the Clinton administration was ever indicted in a criminal case that I can recall. Unlike, say, the Reagan administration and Iran/Contra. Or the Nixon administration and Watergate.


"Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much of our foreign policy, and flying all over the world on "vacations" carefully disguised as necessary trips."

Military spending increased under Clinton, I don't know what the hell he's talking about with this gutting of foreign policy and as for the trips, how was that trip to St. Andrews to play golf with Abramoff, Mr. DeLay?

The list goes on. This e-mail you've recevied is almost entirely fictional.

[hughee99]

17. If I recall correctly...

Web Hubbell did some jail time, but I think that was related to something he did before 1992. Cisneros was indicted and reached a plea agreement (also about something prior to his joining the administration). Mike Espy was indicted as well, though I believe he won in court. Mike Brown was under investigation for corruption when he died in the plane crash. I'm have no idea where all this shit in the OP comes from though.

[theoldman]

8. I would not waste my time to respond.

This letter is one lie after another and as a minimum a distortion of the truth. Typical for Republicans.

[JHB]

9. The Chump has the wrong Atta.

This %&&^$@ thing again.

Answer them in reverse order, since #14 sets the stage for all the others:
They have the wrong Atta. Snopes has it: The bus bomber and the plane hijacker were two separate people, a Jordanian and an Egyptian, respectively, with more than a decade's age difference. This has been known since September of 2001, when it first came up. Whomever is circulating it at this late date HAS to admit they're either an ignorant, complete sucker or a willful liar. Ask them which they are, and then proceed to address the rest of the list (having already demonstrated they don't know what they're talking about).

[JHB]

13. Salon article on the phoney vandalism claims

http://archive.salon.com/politics/feature/2001/05/23/vandals/print.html

Now it seems those closely detailed stories were largely bunk. Last week it was revealed that a formal review by the General Accounting Office, Congress' investigative agency, "had found no damage to the offices of the White House's East or West Wings or EOB" and that Bush's own representatives had reported "there is no record of damage that may have been deliberately caused by the employees of the Clinton administration."

While cautious GSA staffers won't issue a blanket exoneration of the Clinton team, Bernard Ungar, the agency's director of physical infrastructure, told Salon the media clearly exaggerated the extent of the damage. According to the terse GSA statement that formed the basis of Ungar's conclusion, "the condition of the real property was consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy."

Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., the ardent Clinton foe who requested the GAO review, has tried to interpret the agency's findings to mean no "record of damage" had been compiled, not that no damage had occurred. But the lack of records "cataloging" any damages -- which Bush press secretary Ari Fleischer promised in January the White House would compile -- would seem to suggest one thing: Widespread acts of vandalism never occurred.

[hatrack]

10. Here's one possible response:

"Don't ever send me any of this mouth-breathing bullshit again. If you want to suck Republican turds off a Triscuit and tell yourself it's prime rib, that's your problem. But don't expect me to clap you on the back and congratulate you on the thoroughness of your brainwashing."

Oh, and be sure to hit "Reply All" when you send the response.

[meegbear]

12. Here's a response ....

http://www.savagenomads.net/archives/2003/04/04/dear_mr_ex_pres.php

Scroll down past the original letter.

And here's a writeup about it from breakthechain.org:

http://www.breakthechain.org/exclusives/thanksbill.html

[L A Woman]

14. a new lie has been added to that stupid e-mail every time i see it

and it's been going around for 6 years.

[skygazer]

15. Why would you want to respond?

Why dignify this nonsense with any kind of answer beyond, "Please do not clog up my inbox with regurgitated misinformation like this."

[kskiska]

16. Isn't it amazing? Clinton has been out of office for 6 years now.

I don't know of another case where a former president is perceived as so powerful and fearsome. When Poppy Bush left office, he was invisible and never even spoken of again, until Junior surfaced.

[EstimatedProphet]

19. My responses

1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick. Did I leave anyone out?

You're welcome.

2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex. I had really planned to wait until he was a little older to discuss it with him, but now he knows more about it than I did as a senior in college.

Clinton didn't do that. The news media is the one that made a case out of this when it wasn't anyone's business, LEAST OF ALL YOURS. And if your 8 year old knows about oral sex, maybe you should spend some more time in the PTA.

3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place (especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to know is what the meaning of "it" is. It really is great to know that certain sexual acts are not sex, and one person may have sex while the other one does NOT have sex.

Bogus misinformation and complete misunderstanding of the issues.

4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie "Wag the Dog" could be plausible after all.

The fact that you think Clinton should have been impeached for what happened, and by implication we can assume that you think Bush should not be, simply proves that you are actively trying to destroy America.

5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon Johnson look truthful, and John Kennedy look moral.

All those presidents should look that way (except Nixon). Especially Carter. He's the biggest reason the earth isn't a smoldering nuclear ruin right now.

6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying about Democratic campaign fund raising.

I see you're comfortable with lying. The funny part is that you make comments about Democratic fundraising, when Republican fundraising has been the most corrupt evil practice this country has seen since Al Capone's 'business'.

7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4 imprisonment's from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the other "Clinton" scandals.

Wow, you're REALLY comfortable with lying! There was NOT ONE CONVICTION from Whitewater. NOT ONE! BTW name some of the other convictions that came from Clinton's scandals so that I can call you a liar again.

8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much of our foreign policy, and flying all over the world on "vacations" carefully disguised as necessary trips.

OH! Now I get it! You have Clinton and Bush confused!

9. Thank you, also, for "finding" millions of dollars (I really didn't need it in the first place, and I can't think of a more deserving group of recipients for my hard-earned tax dollars) for all of your globe-trotting.. I understand you, the family and your cronies have logged in more time aboard Air Force One than any other administration.

Yup, that explains it...OK, Clinton is not Bush. They aren't the same. Got it now? The guy that goes all over the place in AF1 is BUSH, not Clinton. You can tell them apart by the drool on Bush's shirt.

10. Now that you've left the White House, thanks for the 140 pardons of convicted felons and indicted felons-in-exile. We will love to have them rejoin society. (Not to mention the scores you pardoned while Governor of Arkansas)

Oh, you're one of those 'everyone who has ever been in jail should be executed' types. Do us all a favor and evolve an opposable thumb already.

11. Thanks also for removing the White House silverware. I'm sure that Laura Bush didn't like the pattern anyway. Also, enjoy the housewarming gifts you've received from your "friends."

Oh good! I DO get to call you a liar again! Yay!

12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing of the White House for vandalizing and destroying government property on the way out. I also appreciate removing all of that excess weight ( China , silverware, linen, towels, ash trays, soap, pens, magnetic compass, flight manuals, etc.) out of Air Force 1. The weight savings means burning less fuel, thus less tax dollars spent on jet fuel. Thank you!

And again! BTW the last 2 lies were debunked on Snopes for all the world to see. If you knew how to use a computer for anything other than masturbation you may have noticed them.

13. And finally, please ensure that Hillary enjoys the $8 million dollar advance for her "tell-all" book and you, Bill, the $10 million advance for your memoirs. Who says crime doesn't pay!

So are you mad that they made money on their books? Really? Shouldn't you bring that up with their publisher, and not just randomly email people who have no connection to the publishing industry? Besides, why should you be mad at them for writing a book? Have you ever written - oh wait, there's no point in asking that question anyway.

14. The last and most important point - thank you for forcing Israel to let Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners". However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center . This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was censored in the US from all later reports. Why shouldn't Americans know the real truth?

I thought you said the last point was the last point! I feel like letting this go, just because you're too stupid to know that when you say 'finally', it means you're finished. 'Finally'. 'Finished' See how those words sound alike? But, I'll tackle it anyway...
Even Snopes says you're a liar.

What a guy!!

Yes he is. Unlike you...

If you agree that the American public must be made aware of these facts, pass this on. God bless America and THANK YOU (once again) for spending my taxes so wisely and frugally.

Show me a fact and I'll consider it. What I see here is that apparently you think anything that you write is a fact, just because you say it. So, you're a liar, and you're stupid, and you're an egomaniac too.

SINCERELY,
A US Citizen

Please don't tell the rest of the world this - REAL Americans are embarrassed about bumblefucks like you enough as it is.

PS.
Please pass along a special thank you to Al Gore for "inventing" the Internet, without which I would not be able to send this wonderful, factual e-mail.

Al Gore never claimed that. People like you just claim he did. Here's a hint: if you can't win an argument without lying, it's because you're wrong.

[Beaverhausen]

21. here's a golden oldie - Bush's Resume

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/04/23_resume.html

[Wilber_Stool]

22. Don't bother

She probably thinks her soap opera charactors are real.

[nebenaube]

23. there's been a lot of these things lately...

The "whisper" campaign is on and I'm sure Rove has the original copy. I really thought it was interesting that I only recieved 4% of the usual spam on monday (I average 800/day).