Air Force chief: Test weapons on testy U.S. mobs

[true_notes]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/12/usaf.weapons.ap/index.html

Ok, the government wants to test microwave crowd control on FUCKING AMERICANS! This is the first time in a long time I have been truly frightened.

It's a downward spiral with these fucking morons in D.C.

From Popular Science:
PRECISION PAIN The Humvee-mounted Active Denial System (ADS) can strike from at least one-third of a mile away, using a focused beam of electromagnetic radiation. Designed for crowd control and to disperse human shields, the beam creates a 6-inch spot of intense pain within a second or two. Anyone in its path moves long before it causes a serious burn.

WAVE ACTION: (1) Electrons accelerated in a vacuum tube create millimeter-long waves. (2) The core of an ADS-equipped Humvee is the millimeter-wave generator, which is surrounded by power supplies and cooling systems. The waves are sent to an antenna, which aims and focuses the beam. (3) Millimeter-long electromagnetic waves are 100 times shorter and much more powerful than those produced by microwave ovens.

[notadmblnd]

1. Tasers were non-lethal too.. remember?

snip from article

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

The object is basically public relations. Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions from others about possible safety considerations, said Secretary Michael Wynne.

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne. "(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."

The Air Force has paid for research into nonlethal weapons, but he said the service is unlikely to spend more money on development until injury problems are reviewed by medical experts and resolved.

Nonlethal weapons generally can weaken people if they are hit with the beam. Some of the weapons can emit short, intense energy pulses that also can be effective in disabling some electronic devices.

[tanyev]

2. Whoomp. There it is.

:scared:

[tocqueville]

3. test the weapon on the chief nt

[Cobalt-60]

4. Let me promise here

That if anyone uses such a weapon on civilians that we two shall eventually have a very interesting two weeks in an isolated location with only my pliers and ice pick for amusement.
I don't think they'll be amused.

[rodeodance]

5. ok, now I am scared--this is just too too real.

.......WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

The object is basically public relations. Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions from others about possible safety considerations, said Secretary Michael Wynne.

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne. "(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."

The Air Force has paid for research into nonlethal weapons, but he said the service is unlikely to spend more money on development until injury problems are reviewed by medical experts and resolved.

[WinkyDink]

15. Then we should use tanks and bombs "against our fellow citizens,

because "If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," ????????????????????????????????????

[AntiFascist]

6. Um, I've heard that these weapons were already tested in Iraq....

and the results were devastating. Maybe they should be directed at the White House!

[spindrifter]

7. Totally scary, but he's right about one thing--

we can't really use them on others if we aren't willing to use them on ourselves. He just didn't go far enough--we can't use them on our own people. Besides, don't microwaves cause problems--like brain cancer and don't they mess with people's pacemakers?

[kestrel91316]

9. Well, that would maybe be WHY they want to use them: BECAUSE they

cause brain cancer and mess up pacemakers. They could murder protestors and escape blame due to lack of proof.

[lonestarnot]

13. and what about little people? Wouldn't the damn thing burn eyes?

[muntrv]

8. Test on repukes who flog their dongs over war.

[americanstranger]

10. Let the good Secretary go stand in front of the damn thing.

Fuck him. Turn it on his ass.

It'd be great from a 'public relations' standpoint.

- as

[true_notes]

11. I have an intense feeling...

They will use it on Liberals. I read <u>Dark Millenium</u> by Gerald Mcmanus (Know thy Enemy) and he stated the extreme right wing pig shit government using methods like this to quell demonstrations by the opposition, and then setting them up for the kill.

Hey they are what they read.

[EVDebs]

12. Clearly one of 'Milgram's 37' nt

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

14. Can we say "class action suit" and "war crime"?

Since when do we "test" shit on unsuspecting American citizens? OOps. Well google if you like and you will find the results disconcerting. Like the Tuskegee syphilis experiments .

The person suggesting this should be drummed out of the service. They swear to uphold the Constitution. Does testing unconventional weapons on American citizens sound like upholding the Constitution?

All of these sick, sick people like Gonzales and Yoo and Rumsfeld and Bush and this Air Force guy should feel free to test all their weird interrogation and crowd control methods on each other and each other's families. We'll wait for the results.