Hubris: Cheney silenced one of the war's biggest skeptics, Dick Armey

[sabra]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14740070/site/newsweek/

Silencing a Skeptic
An excerpt from 'Hubris,' the new Isikoff and Corn book about how the Bush administration sold the Iraq war to its supporters

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At one point, other members of Congress were able to witness Bush's intense feelings about Saddam up close. At a breakfast with a few congressional leaders in late September, Bush expressed exasperation when the issue of a diplomatic settlement arose. Saddam had shown his contempt for the United States, he told the legislators. There was no use in talking to him. “Do you want to know what the foreign policy of Iraq is to the United States is?” Bush asked angrily. The president then answered his own question by raising his middle finger and thrusting it inches in front Senator Daschle's face, according to a witness. “F--k the United States!" Bush continued. "That’s what it is—and that’s why we’re going to get him!"

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"Trust me on this, Dick," Vice President Dick Cheney told House Majority Leader Dick Armey. “When I get done with this briefing, you’re going to be with me.”

It was an afternoon late in September, and Armey had been invited over to the vice president’s small hideaway office in the U.S. Capitol. This was the briefing Bush had promised Armey three weeks earlier. Ever since then, Armey had bowed to the president’s wishes and not said anything in public about his doubts about the Bush's stand. But the White House understood Armey’s importance. He was the number two Republican in the House. If he broke ranks, that would be a problem. So Cheney was dispatched to do the job himself.

Armey thought Cheney’s opening remark was odd: "He didn't say you're going to be with us. He didn't say you're going to be with the president. He said you're going to be with me."
Over the next half hour, Cheney, surrounded by aides, pointed to pictures of the aluminum tubes, showed overhead images of nuclear sites supposedly under construction, displayed drawings of mobile biological labs and photographs of UAVs that could hit Israel and spread mass death. He talked about the "associations" and "relationships" between Saddam and al Qaeda. He noted that the Iraqis could slip miniaturized biological weapons (that fit in suitcases) to terrorists, who could bring them into the United States and kill thousands.

As Armey listened to Cheney and stared at the photos, it occurred to him that he couldn't really see anything in the pictures. They were aerial shots of buildings and other sites. Who knew what was in those buildings? Armey realized he had to rely on what Cheney was telling him. "It wasn't very convincing," Armey later recalled. “If I had gotten the same briefing from President Clinton or Al Gore, I probably would have said, 'Ah, bulls--t.' But you don't do that with your own people." He assumed Cheney was leveling him; it never occurred to Armey that the vice president was not telling him the whole story.

[wtmusic]

1. "You don't do that with your own people".

Maybe you SHOULD have done that with your own people, Dick. The blood is on your hands.

[sabra]

4. and all this was happening September 2002...

and BushCo claimed that they waited till the last minute to make a decision about going to war.

[indepat]

7. They lied, as they almost always do and have done about everything

[lumberjack_jeff]

2. "you don't do that to your own people"

Armey, you asshole, the thousands of americans that died as a result of your misplaced trust are your people too.

F'ing Republicans are Republicans first and Americans second.

[arewenotdemo]

5. Would just add that many are Americans third or fourth

Depending on who's funding them and perhaps what their preacher/pope tells them to think.

[librechik]

3. 'Ah, bulls--t.' But you don't do that with your own people."

the Republican party is a bunch of maniacs. When does a Democrat do something STUPID just because all the other Dems are doing it? Not very often. We can get organized to do the RIGHT thing (occasionally) but Dems are smart and independent, not headcopped and reckless.

Armey is a Dick, always was, and he ought to be horsewhipped for his blind obedience to Cheney's dick.

[NoodleyAppendage]

6. Dick Armey = TRAITOR to Democracy. "...your own people."

Hey, DICK! We are a country united (supposedly), not some team sport where you have allegiances to only "your own people." I guess the 2500+ soldiers who have died in Iraq can piss on you from their graves for your inaction and complicity. Fucking TRAITOR.

J

[janx]

8. Funny--

As Armey listened to Cheney and stared at the photos, it occurred to him that he couldn't really see anything in the pictures. They were aerial shots of buildings and other sites. Who knew what was in those buildings? Armey realized he had to rely on what Cheney was telling him. "It wasn't very convincing," Armey later recalled.

That's almost exactly what I said when I saw Colin Powell give his spiel at the UN.

[TankLV]

10. Me too.

I laughed at all their "drawings" substituting for real photos as in the Cuban Missle Crisis.

I was screaming at the TV - THIS IS BULLSHIT!!!!!

We can see a pimple on a fly's ass from space, but yet they somehow couldn't produce REAL DETAILED photographs of thier "evicedence".

I KNEW it was all fake RIGHT THEN!

But NOBODY - our so-called Democratic Leadership or the Media - nobody called them on it.

I have been getting angrier and angrier every single day since...

[Skidmore]

9. Amd Armey will get up and defend this war yet today on

interviews. Recently, he was on Washington Journal and he defended it and the decision making process that lead into the war. What a jerk! I wonder what else was said at that meeting? I think Cheney and the neocons have been blackmailing people to keep them in line. I think a claim of ignorance is only the public excuse they use when caught capitulating.