People, I detest youtube postings.

[Skidmore]

We still have dialup out here in the boonies and youtube stuff just doesn't work so well on dial up.

[cspanlovr]

1. That sucks! Sorry to hear that.

[EFerrari]

2. I'm on a loaner and I can't get most video or audio files.

Man, am I spoiled!

[dkofos]

3. Why go there??

[Ioo]

4. Well you can get high speed via Sat - I live on Mnt in WV w/ DSL

go to broadband.com and see.

As long as you have a view to the south you can always get a dish...

[spinbaby]

12. A dish is EXPENSIVE

Can't all of us pay that much for Internet access.

[patricia92243]

21. Yep. I pay $8 for dial-up. The cheapest broadband is more than $50. I

have looked at EVERY possibility and they are either way too expensive or not available in my area.

When people post links ONLY - many,many of us cannot take advantage of it. The OP needs to put a short description of the video content.

[Wiley50]

44. Answer: use DownThemAll software

I'm on a verizon wireless laptop card which isn't much better than dial up yet
at least until my area goes broadband

But anyway

I DL'd DownThemAll from, I think the Mozilla site ( I use Firefox )

Right now it is running in the background DLing the Voting Machine video
Says it will DL any embedded audio or video from any web page

[Generic Other]

5. Can you watch on Canofun or Crooks and Liars?

or is all video a problem?

[hippiechick]

6. It sucks for us cube dwellers, too ...

.... even though I'm on a LAN, my company blocks blogs, tv sites and just about anything its filter thinks is "objectionable" (amazingly, I can still go to Victoria's Secret's website and look at skivvies, though) ...

Sigh.

[femmocrat]

32. Ours blocks "advocacy groups".... which includes DU.

I never tried to go to any freeper sites... don't know (or care) if they are likewise blocked.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. I feel your pain

I only recently was able to get high speed where I live and I know how frustrating it can be on dial-up.

[princehal]

8. I don't have TV

So I get pissed when folks are talking about what they are watching without FILLING ME IN

[noneofmybusiness]

9. pause it. wait for it to get the whole thing. then watch it

[tyedyeto]

40. Right... while waiting for 15 or more minutes ...

for said video to stop buffering. Meanwhile, you can't go anywhere else on the WWW because it slows your whole system down.

[Nikki Stone 1]

10. I'm on dialup too, Skidmore

And I have a hard enough time staying on line.

[Ariana Celeste]

11. I have dial up too...

I don't mind youtube because at least I can load a video all the way before trying to watch it, rather than most sites that give me NO option.

[Roxy66]

23. How do you load the whole thing first?

[Ariana Celeste]

31. You pause the video

and wait a little while. :hi:

[TahitiNut]

49. I agree YT is better than most ... but still hugely time-consuming.

I'm on a 112kbps (low-speed broadband) connection and it takes 'forever' to wait for those videos to load.

I agree with Skidmore - there are far, far too many postings that just don't merit the prolonged use of my limited bandwidth. Not even close. Personally, I regard such postings as inconsiderate of folks who are part of our DU community and, for one reason or another, aren't as 'blessed' (affluent?) as many.

Funny thing about affluence - we rarely regard ourselves as affluent when we are. It's as though the same advice is given when climbing the economic ladder as any ladder - "Don't Look Down!!" - especially since we're all acrophobic in the economic sense.

[Wednesdays]

13. I'll keep that in mind.

Although I think so far I've only posted youtube links, anyway.

[tyedyeto]

41. Instead of just links... post what it's about! n/t

[chat_noir]

14. another opportunity

Olbermann

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdD6op0l2jk

13,000 more viewings just today!

most viewed: http://www.youtube.com/browse?s=mp

[Warpy]

15. Condolences. My DSL modem fried last month

and I was on dailup for a week while I wated for the new one to come in.

My laptop is the only box with a dialup modem, so it was doubly painful. That sucker is SLOW.

[Sugar Smack]

16. Awww, I've got the old dialup too.

*GROUPHUG!* :grouphug:

[StraightDope]

17. DIAL-UP???

:rofl:

Wow, what the hell backwards part of the country are you in, Skidmore? Even in rural WV, most places have high-speed internet access. Now, in the deep mountains, maybe not, but even the smaller cities have both DSL and cable, hell, I lived in a town 15 miles from ANYTHING, population of about 60, and even there I could get DSL.

Oh, and by the way, no insult is intended by my remarks.

[Ariana Celeste]

20. Wow, what an awesome response.

Some people can't afford cable and DSL. I can't. Pretty fucking funny being poor.

[StraightDope]

22. I hadn't considered that...

Point well taken. I apologize if I offended anyone.

In any case, it's been my experience that the cost of a dial-up connection + the cost of a phone line is roughly equal to a cable connection, in fact, sometimes the cable is actually cheaper.

Oh, and as far as poor goes, I make $6.00/hr. Fast internet is my one luxury. I don't even have a phone!

[Eric J in MN]

36. Do you mean no regular phone, no cellphone, and no internet phone? NT

NT

[StraightDope]

46. Yep. No phone.

No cable either, or TV for that matter, or credit cards of any sort. Just good, fast internet and an old handmedown computer.

[Karenina]

18. Everything I watch on Youtube

is out-of-sync. The video is in slo-mo, but the audio is fine. I do have DSL on my old Mac but am such a Luddite I have no clue. Can anyone help? :shrug:

BTW that Little Richard post was farkin' HILARIOUS!!! :rofl:

[lonestarnot]

19. Damn! That is a sorry state. You are missing a new avenue of political

tools.

[garybeck]

24. no offense, but if you don't like them, just ignore them.

YouTube is a very powerful and useful tool. You can't expect everyone else to stop using it because you don't like it. Many people have high speed connections and it works fine. youcan also download the file and watch it on your computer, which would work for you if you're willing to wait. But in the meantime I think you should just not click the youtube links if you don't like it, and let other people do what they like.

[Sugar Smack]

26. I think Skidmore's just venting.

:)

[Sugar Smack]

27. dupe

delete

[tyedyeto]

42. I don't expect people to stop using it...

just let us know what the video is about. I've seen so many 'check this out' posts with a link and nothing that says what the video is about. Give us dial-uppers a break, please.

[KamaAina]

25. Our handy-dandy office firewall blocks YouTube.

Then again, it blocks Sports Illustrated (!), under the heading of "Intimate Apparel/Swimsuit". Bloorg. I have a good mind to rip the damn thing out and throw it in the harbor. :argh:

[HughBeaumont]

30. Ours used to block "The Onion".

Until someone obviously said, that's taking shit a bit too far now.

Yeah, we still can't view shit thanks to our firewall.

[sandnsea]

28. Yeah we'll just stop the world for you

I feel for your situation, my son can't get high speed either and only lives 3 miles from me. But why should people stop posting youtube because you can't get it?? I don't understand your logic in that request.

[Kali]

29. I can't get it to work at all.

The links at crooks and liars work for me though. Of course it takes an hour to load a 90 second spot but at least I occasionally get a cobert or daily show fix!

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

33. Only one way to solve that.

Move to town.

See show simple the solutions really are?

[femmocrat]

34. Another dial-up subscriber here. We are on the "waiting list" for

Verizon.... we check back every so often, but so far, no go.

[seabeyond]

35. i love you tube. and we dont have dial up. sorry for you

i would go mad

[kineneb]

37. sorry to hear that. I like it.

Because it plays well with Linux. There is no QuickTime player for Linux, and I have yet to load the correct plugin for the Windoz format. But I have been able to watch stuff on youtube.

I would sell my car before I get rid of my cable modem. Seriously.

[smalll]

38. I agree 100% - youtube and other video are bad news...

I've always been on dialup, and up until very recently, I have found it quite adaquate for internet use. Most of the net has been words with some pictures, for which dial-up is fine. With the growing youtubeification of the web, not just here at DU, I'm getting frustrated.

There's another techincal issue involved as well: computer speakers. I and others I know have found that computer speakers have a tendency to die easily. No big problem - until now.

The real reason youtubification is real bad news is this: people like to talk about our society losing its literacy. While there is truth in this, people have overlooked the happy fact that the internet as we have known it - DU being a great example, along with countless other messageboards, blogs, or even chatrooms - has been a new kind of flowering of literacy amongst people. So many unique, heart-felt, witty, deep-thinking, or simply elegant sentences and paragraphs have been written,read and enjoyed by all kinds of people over the years on the internet. Youtubification will kill this final flowering of literacy. All over the web, here at DU as well I suppose, more and more OPs will simply be video; not only video clips from elsewhere, but video and audio streams will be used as a matter of course for people to express themselves rather than the written word. Not too long after that, the majority of responses will be that way too.

We all like to joke about internet barbarisms -- all the OMG-this-is-hugh-I'm-series!!!!!!!1!1!!1 nonsense out there, the "creative" misspellings and ugly shorthand -- and yes, the internet public is not exactly a bunch of Shakespeares. But at least people are writing. Things aren't so bad. Wait until youtubification achieves web hegemony. Then we'll really be able to talk about cultural death.

[MoseyWalker]

48. I really liked reading your post

thanks

[smalll]

50. Thanks very much,

and hi! :hi:

[tyedyeto]

39. Thank you! The least those youtubers could do is tell us dial-upers...

what is important about the youtube link they are pointing out. Then it can be our decision whether we click on it. More and more, all I see is something very cryptic and the link...nothing that tells us dial-upers what said link is about.

[helderheid]

43. Could you just rate this one a 5 and not watch the video?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2130741&mesg_id=2130741

[walldude]

45. Well I guess we should all stop using YT till you get broadband

That or you could just skip the YT threads....

[TahitiNut]

47. (Wow. ) "We"? "all"? "you"?

That's the mob rhetoric of bullies ... about as diametrically opposite what I'd regard as liberal and democratic as anything.

Beyond the use of such rhetoric, to engage in a 'strawman' fallacy is even more hostile. Nowhere did the poster ask others to "stop using YouTube."

How about a bit of empathy? How about realizing that MANY folks on DU aren't in a position, maybe geographically ore maybe economically, to pay for broadband.

Condescending garbage! :grr: