Microwave weapons & Congress and Conspiracy a Rant..

[undergroundpanther]

Yes it is TRUE Microwave cookers can be used on uppity American Citizens Just like Fake Blood without your consent if you get hurt in a poor area and go to the ER. Yes The corporate Military complex can kill you maim you and you cannot do shit about it.What do you think TORT reform was about? Frivolous lawsuits?

I went through that ridicule of being called a Tin Foiler too. I was called Tin Foiler when I spoke of Microwave weapons on DU like a year ago ..But now that CNN says it is so,will they listen to the people who look at the fringes ask questions and seek to know,these "nuts" sometimes really are the canaries in the coal mine.They really can be people warning us all about technologies or bad laws or the criminal movements our government is making tword tyranny.

Will people CONTINUE to blow off everyone who says something controversial and assume it is "conspiracy" to make sure they are blown off as a nut? The tin foiler you shun today may be telling the TRUTH,and you will never know if they are onto something you just blow them off and declare it all conspiracy theories of a nut..

Will DU at least give controversial observations of a few a LISTEN before they blow off information such as this Microwave weapon that can so easily kill American citizens off in droves? This was talked about here YEARS ago,but NOW years later it is being paid attention to..?

Our future depends not on automatically pooh poohing what people might say about what these right wing psychopaths are capable of doing or creating to extend their own power..,We need to listen to research it,confront it open minded-ly and think of ways to defend ourselves against this sadistic tyranny and technology created by sick minds with too much money and secrecy to be trusted with such lethal inventions..

Does anyone suspect Evil in the Bush administration or is that taboo? Tell me,why have The Bush thugs been so secrecy obsessed,Wiretapping citizens,declaring Quakers,"hippies" and such Terrorists? The Bush Cabal is telling so many lies,and defying laws left and right and congress does NOTHING much about it..Why??


So where has the black budget been spent? Congress says it does not know,but in a FUNCTIONING DEMOCRACY they SHOULD Know...This unaccounted for BIG blank check for the corporate weapon makers takes out MAJOR tax money from the tax base..for WHAT?

FIND OUT NOW,CONGRESS. Stand UP for the PEOPLE , DEFY BUSH and his RABID cohorts NOW, you lazy, incompetent,ignorant,self serving,ENABLING,apathetic,rich, spineless, shit heads!


For Alot of us KNOW,Bush co has been busy building the base for dominating,subduing and enslaving American people and the rest of the world. Just like PNAC says they want to do.PNAC wants to RULE THE WORLD.

But yet how do we hear of sick weapons like this Microwave cannon ? It begins with some yahoo who is called a conspiracy nut warning folks,until, THE TRUTH COMES OUT on CNN if it ever comes out at all.

And always it's Congress who didn't know anything about it. The Media certainly isn't gonna say ANYTHING until it's too late ,they are not free press anymore.

Well Tell me,what lazy asshole on the hill didn't read the fucking memo or even ask to SEE it before they made it into a law?? WHY did the "elected Representatives" LET US DOWN with their oblivious comfortable apathy? Why did Congress let tyranny dupe them? Oh yes the Republicans played games, they made Dem's look bad, they robbed the constitution from us by hiding shit in reams of papers no human could read,and you dumb ass congress RUBBER STAMPED IT INTO LAW without READING IT first??WTF!?! How Could Congress be so IRRESPONSIBLE! YOU let the republican tyrants play games with laws and politics and YOU did not stop them,why?

Was it because Congress likes having the perks of power too much? Wanted to keep that kick ass congressional health insurance,and all the other perks of privilege, Concerned about something as stupid as "legacy", than to grow some spines and stand up and challenge the ignorant constituencies with career endangering truth telling? .And Did congress like getting the GIFTS and bribes more than rejecting the bribes of the corporate gravy train..? Yes?

A Congress full of incurious,uninformed,charismatic cowards just sold our freedoms away for ethical cowardice..and for the desire for re-election . Why has Congress failed to tell the truth or even stand up against tyranny of the Executive?..ARE all the people on the hill morally corrupted? None dare to stand up and speak out against the tyrants and corporate money bribers corrupting the halls of power alongside them? Stealing the Peoples Vote! Congress should be ASHAMED.

[Parche]

1. microwaves

I Heard Dickhead Cheney is afraid of Microwaves, does anyone know why, he doesnt have a heart.....

[undergroundpanther]

2. I'd like to put him in a BIG one

Watch him explode.Sit him on the spinner dish,and wait.. Wanna take bets on how many minutes it takes till his head goes Splat all over??

Assholes I hate em all. I am just pissed off right now.Pissed about Maryland's election fiasco.I don't want Ehrlich ass hairs in there. He is SCUM. I wish Marylanders would just take some aluminum baseball bats to those damn diebold machines and get some Civil DISOBEDIENCE.

[deaniac21]

3. I like using the regular oven. Stuff tastes funny to me when it's

been microwaved.

[undergroundpanther]

31. No one on EARTH could pay me enough

to dare me to eat a cheney sandwich, microwaved or not. Ewwwww *shudder*. I'll eat a live roach before I'd eat any part of that psychopath.

[Sugar Smack]

4. Well-spoken, undergroundpanther.

:applause: :hug:

You know, I remember a year ago I was at work. Well, my boss was a Lib Dem, but he stopped believing what I was saying when I got to telling him about a weapon being created that would cause the ultimate pain, with a capacity for 3 miles. He thought I was a bit hysterical (because of course all the OTHER things I'd told him about the Bush Admin were so over-the-top and also true). And then he thought that I was just making that weapon shit up.

[don954]

45. Still work for him?

I love saying "i told you so!" :evilgrin:

[DireStrike]

5. Thank you, I'm glad to hear this sentiment.

There has been too much "mainstreaming" of DU lately. A bit of that national dem sort of mentality that everything has to look credible and normal. Anything too outlandish is dismissed out of hand.

Not every story about reptilian aliens has to be considered, but too many people set their field of view too narrowly.

[undergroundpanther]

9. That narrow POV

Is just sucking up pretending to be normal(there is no such thing as normal btw) And this going along with the consensus of the majority Big Tent bullshit game is playing right into the right wings plans. They have DE BALLED the left this way..We are trying so hard to NOT BE LIKE THEM, we have become pointless. Going along the mainstream does not get you any closer to the truth of what is going on,it is risk free and cowardly. To me this mainstreaming bullshit is NOT the answer. The REPUBLICANS Manipulators of language are who invented the redefinitions that liberal and radical is bad,and they DO the redefining switch and bait game while being fascists whom If I remember correctly are RADICAL RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS.. That's what blows my mind.

It can be illustrated like this:


A republican is standing in a mirror pointing at himself rattling on about radical extremists,he know so well because he IS one.. .

Meanwhile DUMB ASS mainstream thinks the republican is talking about liberals because he uses the word Radical they don't see the mirror they see their own reflection behind the republican pointing at the mirror! So the Liberals seeing their reflection and not noticing the republican is PROJECTING himself into the mirror and can't see anything but himself there...So what do liberals do? they real hard to NOT LOOK so RADICAL,they point at the republican and say,See I'm not the the republican over there, see,I'm not radical I'm the Opposite!,I have no defenses or ideologies,I am harmless.A REFLECTION..in the Mirror.
.And to prove I am no radical I'll act like a republican and mimic one,I'll become the projection, I'll let the Republicans have their way and call it compromise.(And they end up being a radical coward)..I'll do ANYTHING to not look like the aggressive reactionary republican who IS saying I am a radical.. WTF??!
Liberals are playing right into their plans I say.

[rinsd]

20. Yes we need more nutty on DU.

I miss the days of the Mossad planned Tsunami with their special underwater nukes threads.

"
Anything too outlandish is dismissed out of hand."

Because for the most part its bullshit.

[undergroundpanther]

25. Ummm Not always dude.

Ever hear of the stupid DOD plan Operation Acoustic Kitty??
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=636

These things described that sound outlandish to you,are because the SICK people who WANT these devices are PSYCHOPATHS.

Not Just any ordinary psychopath but dangerous criminals who are "socialized"and can appear"normal".. and with UNLIMITED income, Near total secrecy they will pay money to companies so they can do CRAZY SHIT..And when these fuckers have tons of loyal sycophants to do as they say,and a scared intellectually cowardly public too chicken shit of being called a conspiracy theorist by their peers to go and to INVESTIGATE FOR THEMSELVES what a PSYCHOPATHIC military is doing with their tax dollars I hear shit like what you are saying to me.

Psychopaths gravitate to positions of power, So "leaders' who have an INSATIABLE desire to dominate the world are dangerous. The PNAC documents by the Bush Administration speak of a desire for FULL SPECTRUM DOMINATION of this PLANET. . Understand?

WE are not working with a SANE military apparatus or DOD or "leadership" here. So OF COURSE it sounds crazy to hear the shit they do. Consider it comes from the minds of the military crazies who like using this shit on people to control them.

THINK Dammit!

[rinsd]

26. Thanks for proving my point.

I'll add that every now and then a blind squirrel will find a nut but most of the time they eat anything they get their hands on, thinking its a nut.

But I will leave you with a foiler morsel.

The big mainstream exposure the Kitty thing got was from the Guardian.

Guess what day the article came out?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,550122,00.html

[undergroundpanther]

32. April fools

And you know what Have you seen through a Cats Eyes?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/471786.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/468857.stm


What do you think this technology could be used to do?
Think like a greedy power starved psychopath..

It appears that science has now made great strides toward this outcome. And, as a corollary, strides toward another outcome as well: the direct control of a human brain from the outside. Imagine aspects of such techniques patented by corporations with huge commercial and political powers. Then human brains may become well-tuned instruments in corporate hands.

http://www.fleabyte.org/flb-12.html

How long have these sick pieces of shit been trying to control human beings with technology?
http://www.wireheading.com/matador.html

[undergroundpanther]

33. My point was proven...

You assumed because I put up a myth,I was stupid, Wrong, you on cue screamed Tin Foil!!! Like I thought you would! ....You proved my point instead. Heh..

[rinsd]

36. I don't think you're stupid.

I think you have rationalized to the point that not only are all CTs possible, they are true.

[undergroundpanther]

37. You THINK I have

But do you know? You don't.

I read all kinds of things,and I think about it,and I consider it,I cross reference,I compare it with my own experiences.. Than I chuck the bullshit and keep what I think is plausible and think some more. I am open minded but that does not mean I am stupid. I do like EVERYBODY who thinks does when confronting and sorting through unknowns and limited information.

I have my "hobby side" of conspiracy,that stuff is entertainment ..I read it for giggles and shits. Than I have the other stuff I research more deeply and think harder about that after a while of digging on it,and such for me it rings true.

I guess you didn't think I could be that complex in my own thinking,alot of people who are reactionary ,react to me in a simplistic pseudo insulting way as you did.

[ThomCat]

6. I agree on all points.

Kick and recommend.

[Annces]

48. kick

[muesa]

7. Take a look at these references---

1. Donald MacIntyre, Gaza Doctors Encounter 'Unexplained Injuries', CommonDream, 9/4/2006
   

[Sugar Smack]

8. Welcome to DU, muesa!

:toast:

That first link is really scary.

[Celebration]

10. From a fellow "tin foiler"

I agree.

Some people dismiss any unconventional theories on 911 with the idea that nobody in the USA or our government could POSSIBLY want to kill our own. As far as I am concerned that particular line of reasoning is now proven FALSE. It is completely refutiated by the actions of those who lied their asses off about air quality after the event!! So much for the value of human life!! The dollar is much more important. Follow the money. Follow the money. Follow the money.

[Lost4words]

13. I we had true investigative journalist they would follow the money!

:kick:

[valerief]

11. You speak the truth. And it's really, really scary. Much scarier

than terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrah blah-blah.

[Skidmore]

12. No new weapons system should be produced until it has been tested

successfully on 10% of Congress and the Senate and an equal number of military brass and the cabinet. If that were the law, we'd have a whole lot fewer of the hellacious systems they dream up, approve, and fund.

[Sugar Smack]

14. I solemnly agree.

:party: :toast: :bounce:

[glitch]

15. Laziness and fear causes people to dismiss all conspiracy theories

just as it causes their counterparts to accept all conspiracy theories.

The best plan is to apply critical thinking skills to what you read and hear. Unfortunately critical thinking skills are no longer being emphasized, which happens to benefit the conspirators. Coinky-dink?

Good rant undergroundpanther

[undergroundpanther]

34. Tell this to rinsd

[sarcasmo]

16. Kick and Nom from a fellow "Tinfoiler" who is waiting for the next

9/11 type incident when Martial Law will be declared.

[undergroundpanther]

17. Links scary enough to make your hair fall out.

http://www.sunshine-project.org/
How "innovative" are these psychopaths??
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn2254
More on Microwaves..
http://www.willthomas.net/Convergence/Weekly/Microwave_Weapons.htm

In the mid 1990s the Air Force funded development of an ADT system demonstrator that was led by AFRL and built by Raytheon in partnership with Communications & Power Inc. (CPI) and Malibu Research. The success of this demonstration system has resulted in several ongoing DoD-sponsored projects, such as the Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate’s Vehicle Mounted Active Denial System (VMADS) and the Office of Force Transformation’s (OFT’s) project SHERIFF.
http://www.sandia.gov/news-center/news-releases/2005/def-nonprolif-sec/active-denial.html

http://www.nlectc.org/virlib/TopicList.asp?intTopicID=35

Handheld Phaser
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8275

More listings of weapons..
http://www.angelfire.com/or/mctrl/nonlethal.html
http://www.jfsc.ndu.edu/library/publications/bibliography/non_lethal_weapons.asp

Ever hear of an E Bomb..Find out what it is...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/hpm.htm

"Innovators" Ugh..sick mofos.Making this shit.
http://www.unh.edu/ntic/
http://www.xtremeads.com/
http://www.zarc.com/

A shitload of links
http://www.au.af.mil/au/aul/bibs/soft/nonlethal.htm

[Bonobo]

18. Underground Panther...Now I AM with you!!!

Thank you for the lovely rant.

"Conspiracy Theorist" is a label that should be abandoned during this (mal)administration.

The only question is, are we paranoid enough?

This microwave weapon was indeed known about at least a year ago here on DU and, like you said, it invited the scorn of many who screamed "Tinfoiler!".

[undergroundpanther]

21. Thanks Bonobo

! Glad to be with you,too.

[Sugar Smack]

23. YAY!

I love it when we do this. :loveya:

[rinsd]

19. Uhhhhh I saw these microwave weapons on Disc and Hist Channel

They were discussed as part fo the new generation of less than lethal crowd control along with various pepperspray weapons and a directional sound weapon. So much for a secret weapon

So yeah I will continue to discount tin foil nutter talk about concentration camps and the impending use of microwave weapons on US citizens.

But content yourself being that canary. It must be comforting in the scary world of the foiler where at every moment our government is plotting to kill us in new and interesting ways (cue Bush quote)

[unpossibles]

27. the use of microwave weapons on crowds has been

openly discussed by USAF Secretary Michael Wynne

EDIT:
the potential use has been discussed.

[undergroundpanther]

30. It has already been used on Iraqis.

[undergroundpanther]

35. Well, I guess you are

Waiting until your skin is cooked than to take this threat seriously....People like you make sure that tyranny goes on without any opposition until the people are in such a situation they can't easily get out of.Good German you are.Trusting the Government to protect you even as they threaten you.... A true Nimby Huh? It isn't real for you until it's in YOUR backyard.Or in this case YOUR skin frying . Sheesh you got a shut steel jaw trap for a mind don't cha. Well I'll bring the ketchup when rinsd gets his goose cooked.. LOL.

[rinsd]

38. LOL....who needs terra when you have da panther

Boo! scary things coming to get me!

Have you ever considered that the outrageousness of the bullshit you schlep is also part of the plan to control the populace by mudding the waters?

We're thru the looking glass now. Don't go hiding under your apocalypse cloak.

[undergroundpanther]

39. LOL

Go ahead fiddle away..

I guess you didn't see this recent post I put up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2123139&mesg_id=2123139

Boo!

Now don't you go hiding under your reactionary cloak and pretend you didn't just do a damn convincing impression of a fool here. Tee heee hee.!

[rman]

44. "tin foil nutter" such as this air force chief?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/12/usaf.weapons.ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

The object is basically public relations. Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions from others about possible safety considerations, said Secretary Michael Wynne.

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne. "(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."

The Air Force has paid for research into nonlethal weapons, but he said the service is unlikely to spend more money on development until injury problems are reviewed by medical experts and resolved.

[Sugar Smack]

22. I know this is off-topic,

but your journal is lovely. When did you change the background?

[undergroundpanther]

28. You talking about my Scratching post?

Yeah I changed it a while ago because another DUer PM'ed me and said he had trouble reading the high contrast white on black type I had up there before.
So I changed it. I don't want people with less than perfect eyes to not be able to read my journal if they like what I write. Why make it miserable for them? I am happy anyone bothers to read it.
It took awhile for me to change it around because I am a moran when it comes to HTML.To do it I went into the"source code" I basically made each part of the page through the HTML code part ,a god awful color so I could understand which part was which and "translate" the code" to myself, as it appears on the screen ,after I got that understood, I Opened up my Photo-shop again and used the color picker on it to get the numbers of the colors I wanted pre written in HTML code.Than I pasted it all in..I used one of the pre made HTML forms on DU and modified it.Anyone even an HTML moran like me,can do that by looking at the source code and tinkering.. I kept tinkering around until I got what I liked. Hope you like it.

[ms liberty]

24. I know how you feel, man...

Out here in the real world, I get looked at like I'm an alien when I tell people some of the things that are accepted, understood facts by DU'ers. I wasn't surprised about the microwave weapons technology because I'd read about it in one of Project Censored's yearly 25 Most Censored books - and it was one from a few years ago, IIRC. Sometimes I feel like I'm in a dystopic science fiction novel.

[undergroundpanther]

29. Yeah.

It wears on me sometimes. I get depressed alot.

[dollydew]

40. What microwaves, You tin foil hatters forget CNN.com

They will microwave us for our own good. Consume and obey. It is the year of our lord ford. Anyone who says otherwise wears a tin foil hat. They would never turn the american military on us. Just like the government would never allow rape, murder, or torture. Or poor people to drown with no rescue. How bad does it have to get? They don't need ovens these days. People just disappear. And the "good people" continue to say "it's not that bad". Until, of course, the "good people" are dragged screaming from their homes. Even Jesus lost his temper at times and said enough was enough. Allowing your fellow human beings to be mistreated is not pacifist. It's cowardice.

[lady lib]

41. I called my AZ senators at their D.C. offices this morning.

Neither staff member had heard of it and seemed surprised. Both took down the info and promised to relay it.

I'm praying McCain will do the right thing on this one. :eyes:

Edit: I've also been very concerned about this one since I read about it well over a year ago.

[Jeanette in FL]

46. I called mine too, same reaction

Not one of them had heard about this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2127018&mesg_id=2127018

I am so tired of Congress being in the dark about so many important issues. I had to read the article to them because it sounded so outlandish as I was relaying the info to the staff. I told them that I want a written response as to what they are going to do about it now that they know about it.

I had heard about this system years ago as well. Before the military rolls out any of their new and improve systems they have been testing them for years before any of us hear about it.

[truedelphi]

42. Why canno tRaytheon test these things on the residents of

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue...

Of course, whenever I think of bush's incoherence and
English-mangling manner of speaking, I often feel that
these things probably already were used on him

[mhatrw]

43. Tell it!

:toast:

[deaniac21]

47. Statistically speaking, how likely is it that I will have my skin

cooked by the United States government?