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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 05:54 PM
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OH MY GOD. Watch this video.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 05:57 PM
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1. Security Analysis of the Diebold AccuVote-TS Voting Machine
Abstract This paper presents a fully independent security study of a Diebold AccuVote-TS voting machine, including its hardware and software. We obtained the machine from a private party. Analysis of the machine, in light of real election procedures, shows that it is vulnerable to extremely serious attacks. For example, an attacker who gets physical access to a machine or its removable memory card for as little as one minute could install malicious code; malicious code on a machine could steal votes undetectably, modifying all records, logs, and counters to be consistent with the fraudulent vote count it creates. An attacker could also create malicious code that spreads automatically and silently from machine to machine during normal election activities — a voting-machine virus. We have constructed working demonstrations of these attacks in our lab. Mitigating these threats will require changes to the voting machine's hardware and software and the adoption of more rigorous election procedures.

http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/

Full research paper http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/ts-paper.pdf
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:05 PM
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2. I am sending an email to EVERYONE I KNOW!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:13 PM
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5. The ones who need to see it are the Dem leadership!
Got an inside track for them?

Unfortunately, the sound on the video is messed up for me.

sigh...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:17 PM
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11. I do actually. Salt Lake County Mayor Corroon (on my email list) is Dean's
1st cousin.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:20 PM
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13. GO FOR IT!! OK, I'll be quiet now... ~~guffaw~~
REally, seriously, this is the type of "in" that is badly needed!

Does he have Dean's ear??

We badly need an 11th hour breakthrough!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:42 PM
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23. They spend Thanksgivings together and the Mayor and I are on a 1st name
Edited on Wed Sep-13-06 06:42 PM by helderheid
basis! :D i sent him this letter:


This couldn't be more crucial. Our votes are our voices. Please visit this website and watch the video and please send this to everyone you know,

http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/videos.html

Main Findings The main findings of our study are:

1. Malicious software running on a single voting machine can steal votes with little if any risk of detection. The malicious software can modify all of the records, audit logs, and counters kept by the voting machine, so that even careful forensic examination of these records will find nothing amiss. We have constructed demonstration software that carries out this vote-stealing attack.

2. Anyone who has physical access to a voting machine, or to a memory card that will later be inserted into a machine, can install said malicious software using a simple method that takes as little as one minute. In practice, poll workers and others often have unsupervised access to the machines.

3. AccuVote-TS machines are susceptible to voting-machine viruse! s - computer viruses that can spread malicious software automatically and invisibly from machine to machine during normal pre- ! and post-election activity. We have constructed a demonstration virus that spreads in this way, installing our demonstration vote-stealing program on every machine it infects.

4. While some of these problems can be eliminated by improving Diebold's software, others cannot be remedied without replacing the machines' hardware. Changes to election procedures would also be required to ensure security.

http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/

I URGE YOU to vote absentee on a paper ballot and take a picture of your ballot before you send it in.

Remember to pass this email on. Thank you!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:44 PM
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28. That's great news. Except... he needs to see it waaaay before
Thanksgiving. ~~guffaw~~

I'm curious... how did you stumble upon this video? I finally got it to play right, and I'm sharing it with the librarians as we speak. :)
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:54 PM
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40. Check this:
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:05 PM
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126. Thanks for those --great news. I'm grateful to those who keep
plugging away.

As I said, tho, the problem is the "deafness" in the Dem leadership. I will have my fingers crossed that you can get through to the pol you know, and have it slide through to Dean.

The fact that we know it is good, but not creating much change.

Maybe you can slide in a wakeup call. :hi:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:45 PM
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31. I watched Howard dean flip votes on a video. They know.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. how....nice....
well, howie... whacha gonna do?

Let it slide?

sigh... :(
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #36
72. He's a big big ally of the election integrity movement
but can't do it all by himself, needless to say.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:39 PM
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66. link to that here
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #66
84. Thanks for that link! I am new to posting comments there as of
today, so I left one!
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:03 AM
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96. It's not really messed up.
You just need to let it complete downloading before you play it.

If you pause it, and on the bar that indicates the progress, you see a little shadow going forward, then it is downloading. And if you wait until it downloads, and then play it, you won't have any audio problems.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:01 PM
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125. Thanks, I think I said later that it was playing OK, but who knows
where that is buried. :)

It's a great video, and I'm sharing it with a lot of people.

:hi:
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PennyMan Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 01:54 PM
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119. This Is Big !!! Kick Kick
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:12 PM
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3. In the early morning hours of November 3, 2004 I asked myself
"What the fuck happened?" Now I know. These Diebold bastards all belong in prison.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:56 PM
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44. You were on Democrat Underground the night of November 2, 2004?
We were all asking that question, like this ... :banghead:
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #44
53. No, I arrived here later that month. I suffered through the night
alone and forlorn. Started smoking again that night (have quit again since).
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:25 PM
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61. I wish you had known about this forum.
I think because of that wretched night, a lot of us would have started smoking again, or worse, without Democratic Underground. We all watched as the tally flipped percentages, right before our eyes. It was surreal, like something out of the Twilight Zone.

Sorry you had to go through that alone. Definitely one of the worst nights we've ever been through, knowing that hell would continue to rampage through this country and the world for another 4 years.

Here's a belated hug from all of us, I'm sure. :hug:

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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #61
134. Me too. Didn't go to work the next day, sat home, smoked and
moped.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:05 AM
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97. My introduction to DU was that night, or the next AM.
Can't remember which. I kind of thing wee hours of the am.

I remember staring at those exit poll charts that later disappeared.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:13 PM
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4. HOLY CRAP! Even easier than previous demonstrations have shown.
America must stop using these machines immediately.

There can be no accurate elections with them.

Thanks for posting helderheid!

K&R!
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momzno1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:15 PM
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6. this is why the Pukes are so smug about upcoming elections
This cannot be good....
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:18 PM
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12. MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:22 PM
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15. Of course it's why
You'd be smug, too, if you knew you couldn't lose...zero percent chance.
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:30 PM
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76. Just think, they are sitting there fat evil greedy yet powerful
Edited on Wed Sep-13-06 09:30 PM by Cookie wookie
& rolling in the dough, killing people like crazy,
and laughing at the double entendre....

of overthrowing our democratic government
via a Trojan Horse - 21st century style

oh the repubs must be laughing a big har har

While the dems sit around supporting their own demise and coming up with strategies to be more like the repubs so they can win.

and the repubs laugh an even bigger har har
knowing that the dems can never win back control of the presidency & house no matter how much they try to make themselves either invisible, repub lite, kiss assers because

DUH, the voting machines are all rigged.

Edited for poor spelling!

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:43 PM
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26. Yes it is without a doubt!
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StraightDope Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:15 PM
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7. Yep. That's how the bastards stole the last election...
In my opinion, anyway.
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:15 PM
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8. Calls for a media blast, doesn't it?
Senators
Congressmen/women

Keith Olbermann
Lou Dobbs
Jon Stewart
Stephen Colbert

Needs to be submittted to You Tube with attention-catching keywords
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:16 PM
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10. Kicked and Recommended!!!
exactly!
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:01 PM
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80. Here's a few more...
(hardball@msnbc.com ), (nightly@nbc.com ), (MTP@NBC.com ), (today@nbc.com ), (niteline@abc.com ), (NETAUDR@abc.com ), (wnn@abcnews.com ) (letters@msnbc.com ), (2020@abc.com ), (am@cnn.com ), (cnn@cnn.com ), (Colmes@foxnews.com ), (Evening@cbsnews.com ), (imus@msnbc.com ), (Jack.Cafferty@turner.com ), (jconason@observer.com ), (wolf@cnn.com ), (Joe@msnbc.com ), (LarryKingLive@turner.com ), (Lateedition@cnn.com ), (letters@charleskrauthammer.com ), (liberties@nytimes.com ), (LouDobbs@cnn.com ), (Nightly@nbc.com ), (Norville@msnbc.com ), (Public@nytimes.com ), (sidney_blumenthal@yahoo.com ), (Today@nbc.com )
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:15 PM
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9. That assumes an outside hacker is doing the vote rigging software
IMHO it would be more like Diebold own programmers :grr:

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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:41 PM
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22. It just has to be one of 'em.
Dismissal of voting machine fraud has always been on the basis that it'd require a widespread, unsupportable conspiracy.

It only takes one guy.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:53 PM
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39. I was against Bev who only believed it could be done at the
Central processors and had people all over the country changing votes. Just not doable. And why with a Diebold patch to steal votes only a couple ppl at Diebold would have to know. And while this is talking about Diebold, the same holds true for the other Repug controlled makers.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:13 PM
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51. Just takes one!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:21 PM
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14. Please Help!
Is this Optical Scan Voting?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:33 PM
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17. Touch screen
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #17
24. whew!
thanks, hh

fanning hanky..getting the vapors!
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:55 PM
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42. No, but OS is just as easy to hack
If you look at what Bev Harris and Harry Hursti did in Florida, it was the rigged PCMCIA card that allowed him to alter the election results.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #42
49. true that.
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #42
106. At least optical scans leave a paper ballot trail that can be recounted
Glad they use optical scan here in RI
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:31 PM
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16. "24" could do a whole season on this
I can see Jack Bauer trying to find the people responsible for the malicious memory card. Then maybe people would realize it is possible! Sad, but most likely true!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:36 PM
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18. So, can we volunteer to take these home for an overnight?
:evilgrin:
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:37 PM
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19. kicked
and nominated
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:38 PM
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20. You Tube: Someone needs to add this
Edited on Wed Sep-13-06 06:47 PM by chat_noir
If only I were computer/video savvy enough to do so...

Results of a search on Diebold: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Diebold
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:40 PM
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21. I think I can do it - GREAT idea
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #20
32. absolutely add! Why isn't it there yet?
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #32
34. Let us know so that we can rate it up
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #34
52. had some technical difficulties but it appears to be uploading now
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #34
68. here
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:53 AM
Response to Reply #20
107. I sent it to Keith O asking him to put in on tonight show.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:43 PM
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25. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO DO BETWEEN NOW AND NOV
Get this video into EVERYONE'S HANDS.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. Post it to U Tube, Send a copy to Jon and Steven and Lou and Keith.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #29
63. On You Tube! RATE IT UP!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #63
79. rated and left some comments.
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:43 PM
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27. Confirmation
My hubby is a Computer Engineer. He surmised this was how they would do it. We know they could do it and therefore they did.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:47 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. Yes. My gut said so, election night 2004.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #33
38. Ouch! That must have hurt.
I know.. wasn't funny. Me too neither.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #38
47. Made me fucking crazy!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #47
128. I honestly don't think I've recovered from that. It was *that* painful.
After all I learned from the Vietnam era, and the treachery that exists in the "best" country in the world, I'm still staggered to find just how much rottenness is buried here. I know the craziness you're talking about.

I don't know what the answer is to that.

Just taking time to smell the roses, I guess.

sigh.....~~enter flower emoticon here~~
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:45 PM
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30. This is what I've been hoping for... now the big announcement...
HACKERS announcing they will infiltrate, and hack in the Dem's favor!

That's the only thing that will get the RW to take any note.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. Well hurry them the hell up!
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #35
37. Hey, I'm building the fires as quickly as I can!!
:evilgrin: :hippie: :evilgrin:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:55 PM
Response to Reply #37
43. I'm emailing the link to KPHO the only half way decent local
news in Phoenix.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #43
127. Any results from that??
Any hope for taking over the station?

:rofl:
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #30
74. For some reason, all the black hat hackers must be
Edited on Wed Sep-13-06 09:21 PM by Cookie wookie
repubs. It sure looks that way if we go by the results of electronic voting we've had since the machines were first installed in GA and then began spreading around the country. If dems were black hats, we'd have congress already.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #74
81. Do a search for diebold history here. You will see why the black
hatters were repiglicans. Check the connections between Diebold who made the deals to purchase them originally and why.
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #81
92. Repiglicans -- I like that.
Diebold made the deals to purchase "them." What "them"? I'd say I'm pretty familiar with the history of Diebold and evoting, but don't know what you're referring to. Enlighten please.
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madmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 06:54 PM
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41. K&R
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:00 PM
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45. K&R!
Don't let them steal it EVER again!
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:02 PM
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46. No wonder GWB has a perpetual smirk on his chimpy face.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:05 PM
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48. CLINT CURTIS DOES A SMAPLE WITH SEQUOIA AND IT IS EVEN EASIER!!
IT IS MUCH EASIER..

and remember all the states and counties that allow sleep overs of the machines at pollworkers homes..

SAN DIEGO HAD SLEEPOVERS, and in Fla Duvall county just had sleepovers in the primaries.

fly
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:12 PM
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50. what is a smaple?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:33 PM
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91. opps ...sample.....lol...n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:29 PM
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55. And just like a STD, it spreads to the other machines
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:25 PM
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54. I think I've got the video uploading to YouTube
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:05 PM
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82. I'm glad you did, because I tried and I don't. LOL Thanks for
all you do friend!
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:30 PM
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56. K&R
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:47 PM
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57. Here is a youtube link
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texasleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:55 PM
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58. you may wanna work on the title
but thanks

:)
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:21 PM
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60. Thanks for the link. Now, everybody go there and vote this thing
up, and send to everyone on your email lists. People have got to know about this and the sooner the better.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:37 PM
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64. Done
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:06 PM
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83. done done done!
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:45 PM
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94. Beerguts are hacking the vote
Looks like it's being freeped. Rating about a two right now. I fived it, but it needs more help.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:08 PM
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59. Why Haven't The Democrats Been All Over This Issue???
:argh:
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:18 PM
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73. Because they support electronic voting
remember the DNC just got through recommending internet voting and DREs.

In the states some of the fiercest allies for paperless electronic voting have been Democrats. In GA and Maryland in particular, where the Diebold TS machines tested in the Princeton research are used.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:58 AM
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100. I know that
cutting their noses off, they are! :argh:

I wonder if Cathy Cox ex-SoS for GA is now working for Diebold?

:grr:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:29 PM
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62. ON YOUTUBE HERE
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:38 PM
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65. Also on Google video
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:39 PM
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67. It's now up with two different links and titles.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:28 AM
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111. Don't forget Clint Curtis was asked to develop vote stealing software
BY A CONGRESSMAN...criteria was that it couldn't be detected.

Also remember that in Ohio in 04 a Diebold rep made some maintenance visits to machines just before a recount.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:50 PM
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69. NEW THREAD - please keep kicked and rec'd
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:55 PM
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70. Paper ballots and Hand counts NOW!!!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 08:56 PM
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71. Please rate this NEW thread up:
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:55 PM
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78. k&r for truth
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KatieB Donating Member (431 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:46 PM
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77. But video shows paper ballots are useless - need old punch machines
Not those that can be breached and abucted with memory cards.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:28 PM
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75. This and Freeman's paper are all
the proof required for how 2004 was stolen. This is massive.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:34 PM
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85. K\R nt
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GETPLANING Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:44 PM
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86. H A V A = Hijack America's Vote Act
F****rs
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:04 PM
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87. KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK
KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK
KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK
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KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK
KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK KICK

And keep on kicking until every single human being with access to the internet has seen it.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:13 PM
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90. Kick THIS OTHER thread, please!!!
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:06 PM
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88. KICK! Everyone just keep on kicking this.
No seriously guys, just keep this motherfucker at the top of the page for a good long while. Until election day would be optimal. The entire fucking country needs to see this. Someone get it to Olbermann.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:10 PM
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89. So why don't our democratic leaders pay attention to this?
:shrug:
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 11:40 PM
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93. digg It Up, Here.
Edited on Wed Sep-13-06 11:47 PM by jayfish
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:20 AM
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98. Thanks jayfish!
Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc. told Republicans in a fund-raising letter

he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

Remember O'Dell?
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:52 AM
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103. Well Done DUers,...
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 08:00 AM by jayfish
if that was you. The story went from 23 diggs to 278 overnight. People are always looking, fruitlessly, for ways to involve youth in the process. This is one of the ways to tap that demographic.

Jay

ON EDIT: Three of the linked stories are now on the front page. :toast:
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:00 AM
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95. Damn! K & R.
:argh:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:42 AM
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99. Very telling
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 12:42 AM by Canuckistanian
However, I wouldn't want to present this in court. The video is jerky, almost like a series of pictures. Things disappear and reappear again.

That said, this is very instructive to people who don't understand technology.

It's very easy to cover up malware because it can be made virtually invisible and most people don't understand that what's on that screen may have nothing to do with the actual functioning of the program.

Or even that the program can function perfectly legitimately, but the results (data) could be corrupted after the fact.

Without clear safeguards, crystal-clear traceability and a bulletproof security protocol, almost anything could happen.

And some say it already has.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:43 AM
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101. Kick -NT-
Jay
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:44 AM
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102. Kicking it for Andy...(nt)
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:30 AM
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104. All I'm getting is audio and a picture of the machine?
I'm clicking on the video but it's not working?
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:45 AM
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105. Try One Of The "You Tube" Links Posted Above. -NT-
Jay
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:54 AM
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108. Thanx.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:06 PM
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114. Your Welcome.
Stealth kick.

Jay
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:56 AM
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109. Here we go again........
WTF is going on in this country??
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 08:57 AM
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110. Jeebus help us.... n/t
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 09:50 AM
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112. Passed on to many members of my email list
Thanks for the link. This is crucial. K&R.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 11:13 AM
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113. Kickity kick kick kick one for the ages, a keeper link n/t
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bluhoodie Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:30 PM
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115. K & R /nt
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:30 PM
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116. K & R nt
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:33 PM
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117. watching this was disturbing that is what exactly happened
in 2004, they screwed with the Democratic Presidential candidate, and us.
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boolean Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 12:44 PM
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118. Has this been posted to FARK.com?
How about youtube?

I've already sent it to everyone on my email list.

Oh yeah, and KICK!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 02:58 PM
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120. Yup, that's the machine they used here to steal the 2002, 2004, and now
...the 2006 elections in Georgia. :banghead: :mad:
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:05 PM
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121. OH my GOD is right. This is big. We always suspected Diebold machines.
Now we have our proof. These machines are compromised, tainted. I would not even consider voting on a Dieblod machine.

SR
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We_R_da_Future_1986 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:37 PM
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122. THE DAILY SHOW
if any of you can figure out the daily show with John Stewarts email address you should send him this link and ask him to play it on his show!!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:37 PM
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123. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 03:41 PM
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124. But the real problem STILL is....
yes, it's true someone could crack open a machine and swap the memory card.

BUT I wish they would mention in this video, that the FOLKS AT DIEBOLD could put malicious software on the memory cards to begin with. election results could be rigged, right under the noses of election officials and they would have no way to know.

Outsiders. Insiders. both are threats, but it is much easier and more likely that an INSIDER would do this, because they know how the system works, they wrote the software, they have access to the machines and the cards.

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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:29 PM
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130. Plus Diebold has hired convicted felons in the past...
SAN FRANCISCO -- At least five convicted felons secured management positions at a manufacturer of electronic voting machines, according to critics demanding more stringent background checks for people responsible for voting machine software.

Voter advocate Bev Harris alleged Tuesday that managers of a subsidiary of Diebold, one of the country's largest voting equipment vendors, included a cocaine trafficker, a man who conducted fraudulent stock transactions and a programmer jailed for falsifying computer records.

The programmer, Jeffrey Dean, wrote and maintained proprietary code used to count hundreds of thousands of votes as senior vice president of Global Election Systems, or GES. Diebold purchased GES in January 2002.

According to a public court document released before GES hired him, Dean served time in a Washington state correctional facility for stealing money and tampering with computer files in a scheme that "involved a high degree of sophistication and planning."


--more--

http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:15 PM
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129. kicking before a break
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Cornerstone Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:34 PM
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131. Nuff' said!
:argh:
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:35 PM
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132. Makes sense, but damn is the video boring.
buffers wierd too.
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jarnocan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:45 PM
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133. RR voting machine poll in case
http://www.rr.com/flash/index.cfm you missed it. relates
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