Does Chris Matthews watch his own show??

[Neecy]

He just had Bill Maher on, and Matthews was on one of his sneering, sniggering anti-Democrat tears.

First he hectored Maher to name 'one Democrat' who could be a guest on his show to articulate the Democratic position. He acted like every single Democrat in the country was a drooling moron who could barely speak in complete sentences.

Then Matthews asks how Democrats can counter the GOP fear machine. Maher responded, quite reasonably, that Democrats should say that the war was a mistake and that Democrats could run the war on terror better.

Ooooohhhh...okay. Something that every Democrat save Lieberman has been saying for months. Matthews then goes ballistic, shrieking about how the Democrats are 'in hiding' or asking their 'money guys' if there's enough money for more campaign ads, "I dunno where they are, but they aren't on tv, they aren't saying these things", blah blah blah.

Bizzare, since John Kerry was on MATTHEWS OWN SHOW last week saying THE EXACT SAME THING. Matthews has had Murtha, Biden, Pelosi, Boxer and Lamont on recently saying the EXACT SAME THINGS. Doesn't Tweety even watch his own show? How can he read from his RNC script knowing that *we* know that they ARE on tv, ON HIS SHOW, saying these things? How stupid does he think we are, or how stupid is he?

[Bumblebee]

1. Today's show was actually remarkably "liberal" in terms of the guests

and what they had to say. Let's be fair.

[karynnj]

4. Maher is NOT a liberal, but a libertarian

[Bumblebee]

8. With his hatred for Bush as boundless, his exact label is not important

[karynnj]

13. Except for the fact that he is utterly sarcastic

about everything the Democrats have done - his snarky comment on the Democrats message was what almost all Democrats have been saying .... when they could get on TV. The intense Bush hatred going back to 2000 did nothing to convince anyone. Matthews was shameless -

[Bumblebee]

14. Funny how different people view the same segment in such

drastically different ways! Since when is sarcasm a bad thing -- and since when it's a no-no to suggest that the Dems should be 50 points ahead by now and are somehow letting the incompetent moron get away with outrageous lies and stupidity?

[thepurpose]

2. Did not Bill say anyone one who can string a sentence together?

I think any demo could deliver the message then.

[karynnj]

6. And they have been

[karynnj]

3. My thoughts exactly

I actually am considering writing him a letter suggesting he go for an Alzhiemer's. Kerry in particular said everything far better than Maher. In addition, Kerry said what we should do - something far beyond Maher's ability. Kerry's Faneuil Hall speech was fantastic.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

5. Tweety has multiple personality disorder.....

n/t

[flordehinojos]

7. i caught a little bit of that between surfing of the channels.

i had the impression that he put maher down (but i wasn't sure, now i am), and then i thought it was pedantic, or patronizing or something when he told maher, "i just gave you a grade".

we ought to give matthews a grade to, and in my book matthews has been getting an F ever since bush ascended to the throne laid at his feet by his poppy, by james baker and by the supreme court of the usa.

[blossomstar]

10. I caught the same thing while surfing

did you see the look on his face when Matthews said he was "grading" him? What a jerk. I don't think it was meant as a compliment.... He was more disgusting than usual tonight. You're right, Matthews grade is F by people who do grade VIEWERS!

[flordehinojos]

18. yeah, maher must have been thinking something like,

"o, have we gone back to grade school? are YOU grading ME? WHY in the F... aren't you grading the one that you really ought to be grading?"

CHRIS MATTHEWS, as if taking a page from the christian coalition: has it all wrong!

[Bumblebee]

11. Today's show was very worth watching. He was not putting Maher down

he was actually complimenting him. Having Corn, Maher and Blumenthal in one show, plus David Gregory, is quite an event. He is going for Olbermann's audience to gain more viewers.

[blossomstar]

16. Only in his dreams would he get Olberman's audience...

I agree with your previous post about dems not being ahead. You are right, no one is taking the lead and showing up the lies and incompetence, why on earth won't they get it together! They have a golden opportunity, instead they all bicker among themselves... I still can't get the comment Tweety made about "liberals" being criminals last year and it was probably "liberals" who set fire to those churches out of my mind! I sent emails to loads of people at MSMBC telling them how insulted I was. Guess I am holding a grudge... sorry. But that is hard to forget.

[Bumblebee]

17. I'll be the last one to defend Tweety! I was just saying that today's show

was actually quite remarkable for him in terms of his guests, but that's not because he is all of a sudden not the same old Tweety. Just fishing for more viewers.

[flordehinojos]

19. since i did not watch the whole show, and just the snipped i quoted above,

my perception still remains that matthews was being very arrogant and patronizing towards maher.
it also seemed to me as if maher did not like it one bit.

[napi21]

9. You are going to hate me for saying this, but I agreed with almost

everything Tweety said tonight! Have you actually LISTENED to the Dem leadership speak lately? We don't have any articulate speakers in our leadership right now!

Kerry is ok, Biden does pretty well, Murtha is about the best, but NONE of them are in the LEADERSHIP!

Pelosi & Reid are both good Dems, and they have good ideas and votethe way we would like, but they lack a lot in their ability to even decent oratory!

Think about it. Who would YOU ask to go on Bill Maher's show to articulate the Dem message????

Ya know, there's a lot of different opinions about BC on DU. Some adore him, some blame him for his many mistakes, but I really believe the one reason he won both his first & second election is because he could speak to anyone, on any level, about anything! That's what voters like...someone who talkes to them and they understand what's being said.

So throw your daggers at me if you wish, but I'd really like to hear somebody prove me wrong.

[Bumblebee]

12. No daggers from me. I sadly agree too.

As to your last question, Obama or Edwards, but they are not in the leadership either.

[karynnj]

15. Reid and Pelosi are the official Congressional Leadership

but Kerry is most certainly a party leader - though there are those that try to silence him. He is the last duly elected standard bearer of the party. The PEOPLE in the Democratic party gave him the nomination after he overwhelmingly won the primaries. Al Gore is another party leader.

I do not think Maher's show is the best forum, but I would send Kerry. He was very clear and easy to understand on Hardball last week and at Faneuil Hall on Saturday. With Clinton - I have NO idea what his current Iraq position is or where he stands on torture. Also where was his clear strong voice in Jan - March 2002. <crickets chirping>

By the way, he won his election against a President with an approval rating 10 points lower than his son's who was also opposed by a very strong 3rd party opponent who imploded and left the race at one point.