Wow, Franken really went after Lanny Davis(who deserved it). Good job, Al!

[Pirate Smile]

He went after him for his WSJ Op-ed calling some of Lieberman's opponents anti-Semitic because Lanny cited a sarcastic comment without getting the sarcasm.

He went after him for continuing to say good stuff about Bush and Rove. He kept referring to him as Bush's friend. When Lanny objected and seemed a little taken aback by Al's questioning, Al said something about what a great guy Mengele was personally so someone could certainly be his buddy without agreeing with how he did his work. heh.

It was quite aggressive for Al and Lanny has really been a jackass. He has now written a book equating both the left and the right equally with sliming and demonizing people. Both sides are equally bad.

[NYCGirl]

1. I heard the last part of that, and Davis was really taken by surprise! NT

[blm]

2. Davis is a Clintonite who echoes Bill Clinton.

Clinton is great at fighting for himself, but when it comes to other Dems he will be the first to stand up and condemn their attacks on Bush, and that they should be hopeful and positive.

[LaPera]

3. Than why does Davis kiss Bush's ass every opportunity he gets?

Could it be that Davis is just another Washington whore...who goes where the money and power is, and then sucks dick?

[blm]

7. Heh - wasn't it Clinton going around TV supporting Bush from 2001-2004?

He even claimed he never heard about the Downing Street Memos in 2005, two months after they came out.

Davis is saying what he and Clinton believe. Remember, Clinton supported Lieberman, too.

[LaPera]

9. OK dude... I see where your coming from, I agree, I thought...

for a moment you were defending the worm Davis...but your correct Clinton & Davis have both proved to be DLC, moderate, corporate, even conservative worms...There's no fucking disputing that!

[Pirate Smile]

6. I'm pissed at Lanny so when Al said he was going to be on

I wondered how Al was going to treat him. I was very happy that he didn't give him a pass - at all.

I would say Al is a bit pissed at Lanny too.

[madfloridian]

4. Davis was taking up for Rove.

Glad Al did that.

[blm]

10. Disgusting - like when Carville gushed over Rove in TIME magazine.

Disgusting.

[zulchzulu]

5. Al spanked him pretty hard and then let him wimper off like a puppy

Al is swinging pretty hard...probably pissed about AAR news...

[NYCGirl]

8. Al opened the show talking about the "rumor" and said that no matter what

happens financially, AAR is not going away.

He said he flies on United all the time, the only difference since they went into bankruptcy, was that he couldn't get a blanket or pillow now!
:rofl:

[LaPera]

11. Well with a reported $2 million dollar contract for the least talented

liberal RADIO announcer around...Before you say shit tell who Franken is better than...Hartmann, Rhodes, Malloy, Seder, Miller, Flanders, Collins, Ward, Werbe????

So they pay Franken some outrageous sum, because he's a "celebrity" in the best, prime time radio slot and say well he get the best numbers...fuck, put anyone of the aforementioned in that spot and watch them soar...

And we wonder why AAR continues to have problems...Fucking hire a RADIO pro like Hartmann for that prime time -great time slot and save a shitload of money, and get some liberal RADIO people in the front office...instead of 'celebrity star-struck people who think because someone is simply a celebrity, that's the way to build a liberal radio station...

No it's NOT...get real liberal RADIO pros at fair prices and build from there.

If it doesn't seem obvious to you...I listen to Hartmann in that time slot...even Lynn Samuel's in the same time slot on Sirius, instead of dull dry liberal celebrity, Franken.

[NYCGirl]

12. Actually, they're not paying him at all right now. And how many millions

of dollars of publicity has Thom Hartmann gotten by appearing on Letterman, Leno, or Conan? Or putting out the #2 best selling book of the year? Or having a documentary coming out by the same people who made "The War Room"?

Edited to add: That's millions of dollars of FREE publicity for AAR...

[LaPera]

14. Your same old rap...it sure hasn't done AAR any fucking good! You

don't see Limbaugh on ANY of those shows and look at his ratings...It comes down to who would be best for that prime time slot...no doubt Hartmann and others are better Radio pros's finer liberal host and rating would go up... And if you want to still want to see Franken in the most prime time slot simply because he can make appearances on Letterman, put him on the 3 am show on AAR - where the dull dry Franken type humor that plays well on television, but can put radio listening insomniacs asleep! And then he can still make appearances for AAR or Letterman & Leno, that you think is so valuable...but AAR sure doesn't show it.

[NYCGirl]

15. And how many years has Limbaugh been at it? How many stations is he on?

How long has that taken?

I like Hartmann, but he gets so pedantic! And what's with that right winger he has on almost every day in the first segment?

BTW, Al is already on in the 12-3AM slot on the overnights.

It's my same old rap, because it's the facts, Jack!

[LaPera]

23. But you didn't answer the question....

How has those silly appearances helped on Letterman helped AAR with all those "millions" you say he's made for AAR?

"BTW, Al is already on in the 12-3AM slot on the overnights." Yes, a perfect time slot for Franken, I know many insomniacs are now happy and sleeping contently.

"How long has that taken?" That's your answer? Limbaugh wasn't making appearances on those shows even in the beginning...Those shows Letterman & Leno are worthless, except for SELF promotion...It sure hasn't helped AAR!!

"I like Hartmann, but he gets so pedantic! And what's with that right winger he has on almost every day in the first segment?" Hartmann runs circles around Mr. television celebrity Franken! so your basing your love for Franken on Hartmann's first segment, do you doubt Hartmann as a liberal? Of course not! Has Franken ever had on that right-wing friend and other "right wing" guest on his show? Of course so what's your point?

I don't know why you find it so hard to believe some liberal radio pro somewhere can't do better in that time slot than your celebrity hero television & late night star Franken...I know you believe Franken is the absolute best and there's nobody better as you always imply...But ask any of the pros on AAR and who ones who were once on AAR, what they think about the wonderful television comedian Franken on radio, on the networks prime time slot, that needs to have the very best to make the lions share of the money for a network.

[NYCGirl]

25. No, of course mentioning Air America Radio and the show on every

appearance doesn't help Air America Radio in any way.
:eyes:

How do you know it hasn't helped AAR? What do you think brings in listeners? The extensive advertising AAR has run?

Hey, I have an idea — if it's all about the time slot, let's take the lowest rated show on NBC, and put it on prime time! Yeah, then it'll get everyone watching! That's the ticket! A good time slot and everyone will make it a hit!

No, I think Rachel Maddow is the BEST. But Franken has the following and he makes me laugh.

[LaPera]

26. Keep laughing...that's what's important!

[NYCGirl]

27. Yep, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert agree. NT

[LaPera]

28. Television people that are funny!! Not radio hacks like Franken...

Stewart & Colbert are indeed funny and they also know their place is on the television medium....Franken was good too, on television!

You want the last word...Not today dear...I have all day today fortunately!!!

So come on keep your blinded unquestionable worshiping devotion of Al Franken coming...and your insistence that no other liberal radio pro in the whole world can do a better job in that time slot than Al Franken!

[NYCGirl]

29. Aristophanes, Jonathan Swift and Mark Twain agree, too.

Of course, they weren't radio people, but I won't hold that against them.

[LaPera]

31. Yes, they too would have been wise enough, NOT to attempt

a meduim like radio if it was available in their time...and makes fools of themselves!!!

[zulchzulu]

34. I like both Thom AND Al...your anger about the subject is a bit amusing

Al is where he is because he signed on originally with AAR. Hartmann is not officially fully with AAR and doesn't want to be.

Al does a fine job hammering away and, like NYCGirl says, gets a lot of publicity for AAR. He gets lots of people showing up at book signings, live shows, etc. He's not The Completely, Utterly, Perfect Radio Host that you find Thom as, but he does a good job AND gets good ratings.

I listen to Thom on Saturdays and Sundays (92.1 The Mic-stereo stream) and he's great then.

Relax. Many businesses go through different phases and survive...granted AAR got off on the wrong foot, but what the hey...

[Pirate Smile]

17. "if you want to still want tosuck off Franken" - Good Lord, what is with

the hostility?

[Lusted4]

40. Franken is dull to you? n/t

[Fredda Weinberg]

13. It takes talent to survive decades on SNL

Franken had an audience when AAR was a twinkle and stuck with a dream. For all his faults, we owe him respect for his comedic talent.

[LaPera]

18. Yeah as a television comedian, he good...THIS IS RADIO...You think

there is no difference...Radio is a completely different forum, obviously, takes years, some people NEVER can quite get it down...Malloy is a Radio pro...as is Rhodes, Ward and many others...Franken has the best time slot on AAR -Any liberal radio pro mentioned would have the best numbers in that time slot for AAR...

Yoe listen to Franken and Hartmann and you tell me who is the radio pro and more interesting...

That goes for Franken and Malloy or Rhodes, or a real radio pro like Peter B Collins...

Franken is more liberal, but still on par with that other non pro Ed Schultz...But Franken has the better time slot.

[Fredda Weinberg]

21. Franken started w/a professional partner

And over time, took over. He's got his shticks and patter - and going into election season, it's a powerful avenue to mainstream coverage of important issues.

He's funny, on radio or TV. And he's doing what he can - don't knock him.

[Pirate Smile]

16. This is the second time Al has gone without getting paid. He isn't

doing this for the money.

His show gets great guests all time. I'm glad you have other alternatives you like better.

Al did a good job. Many of us actually like his show.

[librechik]

19. I appreciate Al, and he does have great guests

hope he hangs in there

[Mojambo]

20. I happily listen to both Franken and Hartmann

I get different (and useful) things from both shows.

[CatWoman]

22. I was in the car, running errands and was listening

damn near ran off the road.

It was beautiful hearing Al attack Lanny over "his good friend" George Bush :rofl:

[Pirate Smile]

32. I loved how he kept saying that - "your good friend, George Bush"

over and over.

When Lanny complained, asking if was he going to say that EVERY time he mentioned Bush, I like Al's response "no, only two or three more times". LOL

I'm sure Lanny will get a much friendlier audience when he goes on the RW shows.

Lanny seems like a perfect candidate to become a Faux Democratic analyst.

[dr.rock]

24. Franken has still got talent

Is is time to angry now Al?

[newyawker99]

33. Hi dr.rock!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Cha]

30. lanny davis is a

corporate jackass.

[blm]

35. heh...I concur.

And his is one of "faces" of the Dem party I've been referring to - the kind only schooled in defending Clinton but have no grasp of the current issues or the records of any other Democrat. He was AWFUL as a Dem spokesperson throughout 2002-2004.

That's why I want Dean to clean out the barn of all the old spokespeople and put out those who KNOW the records of current Dems INSIDE AND OUT.

[Cha]

36. Yes! The corporate media likes

to trot out old dinasuars like lanny davis because he speaks their language but we need spokespeople who speak OUR language.

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

37. isn't lanny boy a yale classmate of junior

and didn't lanny get a ride on air force one for the class reunion?

[Maat]

38. I enjoy all of our liberal/progressive/populist radio hosts.

I just listen to them at different times. They all have different styles, and appeal to different people. Long live diversity!

Go, Al!

And, you ****, Karl Rove; I will never forgive you for your role in turning my beloved nation into a fascist state!

[Garbo 2004]

39. I heard that & was surprised at Al's agressiveness with Davis. Good. n/t

[AX10]

41. Lanny Davis is a pro-establishment bastard!