CNN: Senate Armed Services Committee Defies President

[eleny]

They passed their own version per CNN. "Just In". I guess more later. VCC now they're on to another story.

[rodeodance]

1. whow, VERY nice! and grand headline!

[rodeodance]

3. recall the Frist and HASTurd siad they back Jr's VERSION!

[flpoljunkie]

2. Yes, I heard that too! This is a very big defeat for Bush!

[originalpckelly]

5. I look at it as less of a defeat for Bush and more of a victory for...

the republic. Thank GOD! These Senators might hopefully have started something to reverse this horrible Titanic-like course.

[flpoljunkie]

7. It's both, and it's some very good news for us Americans, too.

[originalpckelly]

23. Bush may still get his way with the NSA crap...

so I'm keeping quiet on the defeat stuff for now.

[TheRealStranger]

4. MANY HEROES, ONE COWARD

DIGGING DEEPER
By Ivan G. Goldman
http://ivangoldman.blogspot.com/

On the anniversary of the terrible events five years ago, it remains clear that we were in sore need of an FDR or a Lincoln that day. War veterans Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, or JFK would have been fine. Even the flawed Richard Nixon would have analyzed the situation and reacted reasonably well, possibly even brilliantly.

Instead we had the man elected by our Supreme Court, George W. Bush, who spent the entire day running away. He was cowering in Air Force One, flying around like a drugged parrot in a big circle, landing place to place in his confusion and finally getting back to Washington when everything was over. Even today, five years later, most of us turn away from this ugly truth.

Much of what we did that day we did late. The order to scramble jets came late, the questions and response from the President came late. But the rescuers didn’t come late. They came immediately, running into burning buildings to do what they could for survivors. I wonder how many of them, were they alive to know about them, would agree with our President's actions that day?

But now this incompetent President whose Attorney General had ordered the anti-terrorism chief to stop telling him about Bin Laden continues to pose as a tough leader with moral clarity who knows what to do and when to do it. A person with moral clarity can be as stupid as Bush, but not as cowardly as Bush.

The media fixated on that theatrical scene days later, of resolute-sounding Bush standing in the World Trade Center ruins and vowing revenge. But a worthy Commander-in-Chief commands. If a buck sergeant’s squad were under attack and he ran away, leaving his squad members to fend for themselves for hours, he’d of course be arrested and court-martialed upon his return. Bush’s tendentious role as hero is a cataclysmic triumph of propaganda over truth.

In the coming congressional election this dangerous fool will once again pose as a moral leader with the gumption to fight the enemy. But he never even figured out the identity of the enemy and used the terrible events five years ago as an excuse to go out and attack the wrong people. We're now mired in a war he entered as a hobbyist. History will not be kind to us for keeping this smirking fake in the White House.

[Benhurst]

14. Fantastic! I hope a thousand pustules erupt on his ugly face. NT

[eppur_se_muova]

22. Excellent commentary. And welcome to DU!

:hi:

[eleny]

6. More now on CNN

I hope we get some statements soon from the members on the committee version of the terrorism tribunal bill.

[flpoljunkie]

9. "Defying Bush, Senate Panel Clears Terrorism Tribunal Bill." Vote 15-9!

Defying Bush, Senate panel clears terrorism tribunals bill

Reuters
Thursday, September 14, 2006; 3:33 PM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Defying President George W. Bush, a U.S. Senate committee on Thursday approved legislation setting up trials for foreign terrorism suspects that Bush says could compromise the war on terrorism.

Voting 15-9, the Senate Armed Services Committee approved the bill they said would provide suspects more legal rights than Bush wanted and resisted his attempt to more narrowly define the Geneva Conventions' standards for humane treatment of prisoners.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/14/AR2006091400690.html

[Bumblebee]

17. Who was the fourth? Collins?

[BuyingThyme]

8. Version?

[flpoljunkie]

10. Their version, not Bush's!

[BuyingThyme]

12. Of what?

ONE EDIT: We have a link (below).

[Ioo]

11. SMALL LINK

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060914/pl_nm/security_usa_dc_3

[Skidmore]

13. I listened to part of the debate but turned to another channel after

listening to Bennett pitch a fit about some letter and its classification status. Rockefeller was handling it well but Bennett doesn't do hysterical well and it was grating. Glad to hear a good outcome.

Will * veto it, and if he does, will it be passed in spite of his veto? There's still room to pull something sneaky, I would imagine.

[eleny]

15. Pull something sneaky or pull arms out of shoulder sockets?

[Skidmore]

16. Surely wrenching arms must not be covered as nonallowed methods

torture. That has been a frequently used method of coersion by this Congress for the past 5 years.

[eleny]

18. I'm sure the Senators are steeling their nerves

I smell some scary "breakfast" meetings in the days ahead.

[eleny]

19. Cavuto just asked Frist "So what's your *spin* on this?"

:rofl:

[Individualist]

20. Did cat killer's head explode?

What was his answer?

[eleny]

24. I turned it off after he said he was disappointd...

....or something along those lines.

[kurth]

21. "Colin Powell declared his opposition to the president's plan"

Proof of overwhelming support for the stupid monkey.