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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:27 PM
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Chavez, Castro and Iran: Anti-American Alliance comes to UN
I can't find a link yet, unless someone else can. I was just watching Lou Dobbs and he just did a story on something called the "Anti-American Alliance." It does come up in google as something old that Chavez has been trying to cook up. THe thing is, there aren't any links yet that include the nutjob who runs Iran.

Lou just ran video of Chavez and this cretin hugging, and saying that Chavez supports Iran's nuclear program. THe really humiliating thing is that the so-called conference of the alliance is meeting right now in Cuba.

So, this is going to be the * legacy: All of the up-and-coming world leaders joining forces against us. And they'll be going to the UN next week together to use their alliance to get the UN to turn away from the US.

And then Lou moved onto spinach.

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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:29 PM
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1. Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld: The REAL Anti-American Alliance
Chavez has done more for the poor of America than any Republican President. And didn't Cuba offer to send their doctors after Katrina?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:31 PM
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2. Chavez could've been a good ally of the US.
Edited on Fri Sep-15-06 05:33 PM by Selatius
No, we drove him away when we tried to have him overthrown and killed. Unlike Allende in Chile, Chavez lived.

I know he's still a good ally of the poor. He sent people from Citgo to New Orleans to evacuate Katrina victims, and he sold discounted oil to the poor in the Northeast and other places during the winter to people who were having trouble purchasing heating oil.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:56 PM
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10. Chavez is an ally of the American people. Just not this admin.
How could anyone really expect a socially minded leader to be an ally of the BushCrimeInc regime?

But, of the American people both Chavez and Castro are both allies.

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CarlVK Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:18 PM
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14. Chavez got cheap oil to poor Americans. Did Bush?
please speak into the mic....
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:35 PM
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3. What can you say, a large part of the world is aligning against us.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:37 PM
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4. Try these links out.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:44 PM
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6. Thanks. These articles just mention Iran but not their nukes.
So, either CNN is making stuff up to justify being afraid, or, the news just doesn't want us to know that the world hates us so much.

Or both. Got it.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:37 PM
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5. "Anti-American Alliance" - THERE be a REAL "Coalition of the Willing"!!!
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And it will continue growing . . .

Y'all can count on it.

Thank ur PNACers.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:46 PM
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7. It would stand to reason people everywhere see a distinct difference
between right-wing, genocidal, power mad policies of the Bush regime and more decent, mature, intelligent policy written by Democratic administrations.

If you'll recall the protests signs from all over the world, they are STRICTLY anti-Bush, not anti-American.

Right-wingers love to try to pretend the world's justifiable hatred toward right-wing filthy foreign policy is directed toward ALL AMERICANS, so we'd better get dirty and nasty, and blow them all up, but that is unbelievably STUPID, isn't it?
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:17 PM
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13. Not everyone makes the distinction Judi Lynn - they should tho
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Heck,

it's been common practice for decades BEFORE the Boy-King invaded the Middle East for American tourists to pretend they were Canadians because they got better treatment from the locals.

US citizens were known to be arrogant and self-serving long before the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions.

I betcha it wouldn't take you long to verify my opinion/observation with a few nanoseconds of googling.

Yes, the placards published have been mostly Bush related -

But the undercurrent of hatred around the world that is not overly published, in the general population - is just "Americans"

I don't hate US citizens, I've visited(25 states), AND lived in the US (San Diego was my 14 month "visit" over two decades ago) - and I liked most every one I met

I wasn't dealing with PNACers tho . . .

I will NOT return to the US for a minute until y'all have another revolution.

But I don't expect to live that long

And I ain't flying NOWHERE!!

(sigh)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:41 PM
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16. Thanks for the reminder. The expression "The Ugly American" has been
around a long, long time, hasn't it?

It's a real shame the right-wing can't act as if it's been somewhere whenever it gets a member in the White House. They horrify, sicken, and disgust the entire world EVERY GODDAMNED TIME, and it takes forever trying to regain a country's reputation after a rampage of murderous greed.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:48 PM
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8. Huh?
The Non-aligned Movement is meeting in Cuba this weekend. Over 100 countries are present. We have been meeting since 1961. Since when are meetings of world leaders dependent on US permission?
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:04 PM
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11. Of course they're not. I just didn't understand the Dobbs story.
And it's a new one when Chavez hugs the leader of Iran, promising to support Iran's nuclear program.

And it's terribly sad that america has engendered so much hatred in the world.

I also didn't get from the Dobbs story that there has been a non-aligned alliance before. The show made it sound new.

Anything to create fear, fear, fear.

Believe me, I'm no fan of this administration. I'd like to see the alliance reprimand Bush for his war crimes, so maybe we could impeach him.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:09 PM
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12. Here's a link
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CarlVK Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 05:51 PM
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9. I think you have the wrong axis of evil.
Castro, Chavez and Iran TOGETHER couldn't come up with enough crime to match what has been done by his Imperial Chimpness and his band of rogues.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 06:41 PM
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15. who's the target audience?
if a buncha goofs had the powers to engineer a 911, along with the ability to benefit from the after effects, not to mention possessing the ability to assign blame for the deed to religious extremists, why would they bother with all this expensive and potentially dangerous shenanigans at all? Even the downing street minutes, given some exposure, could have upset their shitwagon....could it be less the nature/reality of the supposed 'bad guys/islamofascists' then the tens of millions of privately, very powerful westerners who, if they so decided, could bring back lady gullotine and resume chopping off mr/mrs pigs' heads by next friday?

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/dec2002/gore-d21.shtml
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The former vice president and nominal head of the Democrats, who captured the votes of 50 million Americans and won the popular vote in the 2000 presidential race, chose a December 15 interview on the CBS program “60 Minutes” as the venue for publicizing his decision. That Gore, by far the best known of all likely Democratic presidential aspirants, should remove himself from contention at this early stage shows the degree to which the political system is controlled by an elite of media and political decision-makers, who are themselves answerable to the American financial oligarchy.For several months Gore had been aggressively preparing the way for a rematch with George W. Bush, making speeches on foreign and domestic policy, appearing on television interview programs, and conducting a national book tour with his wife. According to opinion polls, he was, by a wide margin, the first choice of Democratic voters to challenge Bush in 2004.

But the critical constituency for a viable presidential run was to be found not in voting precincts, but rather in corporate boardrooms, network office suites and the top echelons of the Democratic Party apparatus. Among the few hundred individuals who really “count” in shaping American electoral politics, Gore was decidedly out of favor. Their verdict was reflected in sluggish fundraising and what Gore associates called the “skeptical media coverage” of his book tour. The blow to Gore’s presidential aspirations was softened, according to press reports, by the former vice president’s new-found wealth, gained in part from a vice chairmanship at a West Coast investment firm.

In explaining his decision, Gore has offered only one political motivation—but it is a highly significant one. Referring obliquely to the 36-day battle over the Florida vote and the Supreme Court ruling that ultimately handed the presidency to his Republican opponent, Gore told his “60 Minutes” interviewer, “I think a campaign that would be a rematch between myself and President Bush would inevitably involve a focus on the past that would, in some measure, distract from the focus on the future that I think all campaigns have to be about.” In other words, a second Gore-Bush contest would inevitably raise the overtly anti-democratic manner in which the 2000 election crisis was resolved, and bring into question the legitimacy of the Bush administration. In his desire to avoid such issues, Gore reflects a preoccupation of the entire ruling elite and both political parties.
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