Bush Says He Doesn't Know What "Human Dignity" Means

[journalist3072]

From today's press conference:

THE PRESIDENT: This debate is occurring because of the Supreme Court's ruling that said that we must conduct ourselves under the Common Article III of the Geneva Convention. And that Common Article III says that there will be no outrages upon human dignity. It's very vague. What does that mean, "outrages upon human dignity"? That's a statement that is wide open to interpretation. And what I'm proposing is that there be clarity in the law so that our professionals will have no doubt that that which they are doing is legal. You know, it's -- and so the piece of legislation I sent up there provides our professionals that which is needed to go forward.

We are so screwed! The President of the United States doesn't know what "human dignity" means.

I am speechless!

[tridim]

1. His actions certainly prove it

First time he's told the truth that I can remember.

[CarlVK]

2. There's a shocker of a headline.

[spanone]

3. He finally tells a truth.

[yellerpup]

4. Pile him up in a human pyramid

and ask him how that feels. He should catch on to outrages upon human dignity pretty quickly, I'll bet.

[Mojambo]

5. I despise this man. n/t

[Missy M]

6. How could "outrages upon human dignity" be open to....

interpretation. It seems most of the world knows exactly what it means. Does he want clarity in the law that says, electric shock to the testicles is OK but cutting them off is not? When he gets that cleared up then our professionals can go ahead and shock but not cut. Perhaps they can try various techniques on Bush so he can clarify what is and isn't "outrages on human dignity".

[ShortnFiery]

7. Dunkin Hunter :P is such a putz using some inane example

that female Interrogators DIRECTLY questioning them is an insult to Muslim men. Ya know, I don't think that's a huge problem as Men outnumber women in the field 10 to 2. Women interrogators can feed questions to their colleagues.

Awe, Mr. Hunter that is one very inane reason to figuratively piss on Article 3 of The Geneva Conventions. :(

[ClusterFreak]

8. I bristled and shuddered at that one too.

I was more shocked though at how he actually wondered aloud about what constitutes an 'outrage'. In other words, "How far can we push it? How far up someone's fingernails can we actually shove the bamboo shoots? You know, before you call it (making air quotes now) "torture".

:yoiks:

[teryang]

9. Actually he invoked the standard of dignity for illegal aliens

...presently in the country, thereby revealing he does know what it means, in the very same press conferences just a few minutes later.

In any case, bush's totalitarian like lies concerning this issue conflict with the US Army's Chief of Intelligence briefing on interrogation standards just a few days ago. So when he says interrogators need specific standards they already have them according the Army. In fact, they've had such standards for decades. Bush is simply a liar.

[journalist3072]

11. You are absolutely correct. Here is what he said

And, finally, we're going to have to treat people with dignity in this country. Ours is a nation of immigrants, and when Congress gets down to a comprehensive bill, I would just remind them, it's virtually impossible to try to find 11 million folks who have been here, working hard -- and, in some cases, raising families -- and kick them out. It's just not going to work. But granting automatic citizenship won't work either. To me, that would just provide an additional incentive for people to try to sneak in, and so therefore there is a rational way forward. I'll continue working -- I don't know the timetable. My answer is, as soon as possible, that's what I'd like to see done.

[WinkyDink]

10. Bush understands the legal aspect of defining full well: That which is NOT

SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED can THEN BE USED.

If, e.g., "waterboarding" is defined with a time limit, say, Bushco will measure their waterboarding to within a millisecond.
How MANY lashes with what KIND of whip?
Are thumbnails truly FINGERnails? Would removal by nail clippers be considered a manicure?
Etc.

[goodhue]

12. yeah, for example

It's not clear that sensory deprivation, isolation, sleep deprivation, forced nudity, the use of military working dogs to instill fear, cultural and sexual humiliation, mock executions, and the threat of violence or death toward detainees or their loved ones are outrages upon human dignity, what that means.