Bush implied he wants to fuck David Gregory.

[milkyway]

"I must say, having gone through those gyrations, you're looking beautiful today, David."

This psycho is President of the United Sates, and he's talking like one of the creeps on "Prison Break." Bush frequently begins a conversation with a potential hostile person by making a demeaning sexual joke to let the other person know he's the one with the power--if I want to fuck you I will, and you'll be helpless to stop it. And in Bush's twisted brain, exerting his control over another man by fucking him wouldn't make Bush a fag, it just makes the other guy a woman, forced to be the receiver.

Nothing like a little homosexual rape humor to lighten up a press conference.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/15/bush-presser-and-gregory

[babylonsister]

1. I must say, I never looked at it that way.

:wow:

[Nikki Stone 1]

38. Actually, it makes a lot of sense

...

[BootinUp]

2. I guess I didn't interpret it that way at first.

But you might be right. Shit I already called him an asshole.

[Erika]

3. It was strange indeed. Where's he coming from? n/t

[tech3149]

4. What a perv! eom

[Windy]

5. that was very weird..... he's a NUT n/t

[Erika]

6. frat brat male cheerleader talk?

His elite college background?

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

7. Where in the hell did that remark come from?... Not a well man.

[CarlVK]

8. He was just trying to soften up the incoming fire he knew was on its way

That shuold be apparent. And of course, he failed.

[BurtWorm]

14. I was just reading in Suskind's The One Percent Doctrine today

an anecdote about Bush's days at Harvard Business School, when he was captain of an extracurricular basketball team, and the captain of an opposing team recalled one game in which Bush suddenly hit him in the face as he was going up for a shot, then a few points later, cut him off at the knees--both obviously illegal moves that served to anger the other captain to the point of losing his cool. It's not clear if he actually lost the game, but he says he lost control of his team. And he said to Bush something like, "Why would you do that when you know I'm going to kick the shit out of you and we're both going to get kicked out of the game?" And Bush just smirked at him. Years later the guy had the chance to tell Jeb Bush the story, and Jeb just laughed and said it was just something George liked to do: to undercut the other guy.

Story of his life. Story of our lives now, too, unfortunately.

[Loge23]

9. Insane. Simply insane.

His reply was psychotic. He twists everything around to his reality, which is nutsville.

[Jcrowley]

10. Very astute

If you will re-examine this and many other Bush Talks what you will find is just what you describe. He is always using what you could call abusive humor to at once "lighten" the situation in order to alleviate his disturbed mind as well as to establish power and control over the situation and/or individual. A ghoulish prankster is George Bush. One perverted maniac.

[kestrel91316]

20. Somebody needs to call him on this. Don't let him keep getting away

with it, folks! Next person and EVERY person he does this to needs to immediately confront him directly about and say, "Why the hell are you using abusive humor to belittle me??? What the hell is the matter with you?" If EVERYBODY started responding this way, he would completely freak out.

[LuckyLib]

35. Yes! I'm waiting for someone to say exactly that -- to make him

do a "heh-heh" and dig himself in even deeper. He needs to be confronted constantly. He gets away with it, because he can.

[leesa]

11. I didn't quite catch what he said there...wish you hadn't pointed it out.

What a strange person he is.

[Janice325]

12. I saw that clip. I guess I really didn't pay any attention to Idiot Son's

comments to David Gregory, or I would have shit a brick.
Oy.

[Atman]

13. You're right. He does it all the time.

It is similar to his pet names for people. It is a power thing. With the pet names, he is saying "I don't give a fuck what your parents named you...I'm your daddy now!" Same with the sex references. He does it frequently and it is seriously, seriously creepy.

[me b zola]

34. One of his all time creepy-perv statements....

...was the one about GYN's practicing their "love" on women. I swear that gives me chills everytime I hear that.

[blonndee]

15. I thought he was just being abusive, and thought it was probably

indicative of the way he's ALWAYS treated the "lower classes." I could totally see him talking that way to a pledge to his fraternity.

[pinto]

16. The analogy is a stretch. And prison homosexual rape is an

exaggerated fact of prison life, fwiw. Most gay sex in prison is consensual, and some of it is between inmates and guards. The rape issue is a good sell for TV shows. Most physical coercion in prisons seems to be of the straight forward "I'll shank you" type not "I'll fuck you" type.

(on edit) Realize I'm a little off topic. The OP didn't imply a prison analogy. I'm a little peeved at homosexual innuendo as a point of scorn. I probably overreacted here....mea culpa. Rape as a means of establishing dominance is an undeniable thing, regardless of sex. Still think the analogy is a stretch here, though. :hi:

[Berry Cool]

18. David Gregory is way tall and could probably stamp the Shrub out like an

annoying weed.

Oh well. At least Bush and I agree on something--Gregory is a fine looking man! And I love how he stands up to Tony Snow and the Decider in Chief. After all, Helen Thomas can't live forever. Someone's gotta keep annoying the White House.

[pinto]

21. I agree.

[bobbieinok]

22. any links/research to back up claim????

would seriously like to know

I've wondered if homosexual rape in prisons is a way to control inmates and if it has always existed.

If it's between guard and inmate, is guard always 'the male??'

I've read that some men think if they're the male in gay sex they're really not being gay/

[pinto]

29. The info I have comes from recent HIV transmission studies

(the primary one from Georgia State Prisons) via the CDC and first hand info from inmates. I'll try and find you come citations.

(aside) In the CDC study, the assumption of the high prevalence of HIV among inmate populations was high risk sex inside. A ten year longitudinal study in Georgia cast doubts on that when it found that many of the HIV positive inmates came into the system already infected on the outside. They weren't tested on entry. First hand reports to the CDC researches elicited some specific sex info, mainly the over estimation of rape as a tool to establish dominance in the prison and an under estimation of the amount of inmate/guard sex activity.

My personal info is from work I have done in a prison and among inmates on the outside.

[stillcool]

30. I think it's human nature....

that when humans have control over others...abuse happens, be it sexual, physical or emotional. I think that is why foster children...of which I was one...get so screwed. There doesn't seem to be any restraint gene percolating in that environment.

[pinto]

32. Here you go. (Apologies to OP for this side track.)

Few Men Found to Get HIV in Prison

By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 21, 2006; A09

Although male prisoners have a relatively high rate of HIV infection, very few of them acquire the virus while behind bars, according to a federal study that is the largest and longest one to look at the issue.

About 90 percent of HIV-positive men in Georgia's prison system -- the nation's fifth largest -- were infected before they arrived, the study found. Over a 17-year period, 88 men became infected in prison by the virus that causes AIDS, chiefly through same-sex intercourse. Georgia prisons currently house about 45,000 men.

The study, published yesterday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, refutes the widespread impression that U.S. prisons are hotbeds of the AIDS epidemic, and that incarceration contributes directly to the high rate of HIV among black men, who make up the majority of male prisoners in many states.

The study revealed a surprising and unexplored aspect of HIV infection in prisoners. Of the men who became infected behind bars and acknowledged having gay sex there, half reported that their partners were prison staff members, not other inmates. Whether guards were the source infection, or became infected themselves, in any of those liaisons is unknown.

Nearly three-quarters of inmates who reported having had sex with other men described it as consensual. Nearly one-third of those said they used condoms or an improvised protective method such as rubber gloves or plastic wrap.

"The popular assumption is that prison is a very good place to contract HIV infection," said Richard Tewksbury, a professor of justice administration at the University of Louisville, who has studied HIV-prevention strategies inside and outside prison.

"Both inmates and society as a whole have long held the belief that transmission is common among prison inmates. The interesting thing about this study is that it directly contradicts that," he said.

Terry Butler, a CDC spokeswoman, said: "Media coverage of this issue over the past several years has been characterized by misperceptions that HIV transmission in prisons is widespread." Most news stories provide little evidence for that idea, she said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/20/AR2006042001868_pf.html

[bobbieinok]

42. thanks to those who answered

[originalpckelly]

17. It is intimidation, exactly like you said milkyway, think kiss of death.

Exactly like the kiss of death (you know the mob one.)

[rocktivity]

19. And didn't he flash a photo of a shirtless Matt Lauer the other other day?

And say he was "beautiful?" For some reason, JFK's disarming humor worked a LOT better...

:headbang:
rocknation

[Tuesday_Morning]

23. B*sh said it in a bullying kind of way

It might be considered sexual harassment. From the Equal Emplyment Opportunity Commission:

"Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature constitutes sexual harassment when submission to or rejection of this conduct explicitly or implicitly affects an individual's employment, unreasonably interferes with an individual's work performance or creates an intimidating, hostile or offensive work environment."

Sexual harassment can occur in a variety of circumstances, including but not limited to the following:

The victim as well as the harasser may be a woman or a man. The victim does not have to be of the opposite sex.
The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, an agent of the employer, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or a non-employee.
The victim does not have to be the person harassed but could be anyone affected by the offensive conduct.
Unlawful sexual harassment may occur without economic injury to or discharge of the victim.
The harasser's conduct must be unwelcome.

http://www.eeoc.gov/facts/fs-sex.html

[Oeditpus Rex]

24. Oh, brother

Sure wish I had the :tinfoilhat: concession in this crowd.

[omega minimo]

25. EVERYBODY WANTS TO FUCK DAVID FUCKING GREGORY

I hate stupid crude bullshit on the Title page.

"And in Bush's twisted brain, exerting his control over another man by fucking him wouldn't make Bush a fag, it just makes the other guy a woman, forced to be the receiver."

Revealing your own veiw of women "forced to be the receiver." :puke:



You are on Ignore. :thumbsdown:

[milkyway]

41. umm...I wasn't giving my viewpoint, I was giving how I thought Bush felt.

To guys with Bush's mentality, there's a difference between the guy who gives it and the guy who takes it. It's not an uncommon thought in our culture. When Mike Tyson said to an opponent, "I'll make you my bitch," he was talking about raping him and forcing him to take him. Tyson would not consider himself homosexual for doing so. But he would have transformed the other guy into a woman, who, of course, are regarded as inferior.

It is certainly an ugly, sick mindset, both for its view of men and its view of women. Please don't misconstrue it as my own.

[Catherine Vincent]

26. And did you hear how some of the press corps was laughing

as if it was soooooooo funny? What a bunch of suck ups.

[Harper_is_Bush]

27. Don't....post......drunk

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

[Straight Shooter]

28. I was startled when he told him he was "looking beautiful."

Very inappropriate. Even if a reporter is female, it's inappropriate.

At least bush exercised enough control not to say, "You've got a purdy mouth."

[NuttyFluffers]

31. "... and your foundation brings out the color of your eyes, Mr. Resident"

i wouldn't have been able to help myself, that's what would have been my immediate reply. and i'd definitely make sure that "Resident" stands out clearly too when saying it. it's pedantic bullying, and i find myself giving tit-for-tat almost unconciously. they don't respect me, then i don't respect them, and damn the consequences. (that and i'm often better with comebacks, so i guess wit can let you get away with more...) usually in the end such people end up having more respect for me because i don't put up with their shit. it's just the way with bullies apparently.

[Octafish]

33. Monkey told Canadian PM's aid-de-camp had a 'PRETTY FACE'...

The President chuckled. "Well, you got a pretty face," he told the surprised Mr. Reid. He wasn't done. "You got a pretty face," he said again. "You're a good-looking guy. Better looking than my Scott anyway."

Bush prefers our pretty boy to his pretty boy

by Jane Taber
Toronto Globe and Mail


This is the tale of the two Scotts -- one American, the other Canadian. One is dark-haired, the other blond. Both are 35 and both work for the most powerful men in their respective countries.

EXCERPT...

Mr. Bush wandered over during Mr. Reid's chat with the Prime Minister. Mr. Reid introduced himself and shook hands with Mr. Bush.

"Well, what do you do for this guy?" the President asked as he pointed to the Prime Minister.

"Well, you know, sir, I can't really say," Mr. Reid said. "It's not that I don't want to. It's just that, you know, I don't really know from day to day."

This is true. Mr. Reid handles a number of files and performs a number of different duties, depending on the issue and the day.

The President chuckled. "Well, you got a pretty face," he told the surprised Mr. Reid. He wasn't done. "You got a pretty face," he said again. "You're a good-looking guy. Better looking than my Scott anyway."

CONTINUED...

http://news.neilrogers.com/news/articles/2004021902.html

He's a sick fuck, all right. Totally sick.

[Erika]

36. The elitist rich are often shallow and concentrate on looks,

money, and family connections rather than ability, conscience, and accomplishments.

Babs probably taught him well with her beautiful mind that didn't waste time on war dead, or those "lucky" Katrina victims housed in devastating circumstances because they were poor anyway.

The GOP mindset is also on how lucky our troops are to serve in W's wars and gain all kinds of perks, that these poor kids couldn't have obtained otherwise. W and the Republicans have been so kind to them by "allowing" them to fight in W's wars in hopes of improving their lot in life. Ah, the kindness of the republicans. Babs is in tears about the depth of her party's compassion.

[Octafish]

39. Blair and Bush found someone 'Honey' and 'Sweet' at the recent G8...

What people do in their own spare time is their own business.

This was company time, and We the People are the shareholders.

Private Bush, Blair conversation broadcast at G8

RAW STORY
Published: Monday July 17, 2006

Various news agencies are reporting that what US President George W. Bush and UK Prime Minister Tony Blair thought was a private conversation has accidentally been broadcast at the G8 conference.

EXCERPT...

The conversation then turned to a gift from the Prime Minister to the President. "It's awfully thoughtful of you," Bush remarked. "It's a pleasure," was Blair's reply, before Bush gushed, "I know you picked it out yourself."

The much-reported expletive came when conversation turned to the situation in Lebanon and Israel. "You see," said the President. "The ironic thing is what they need to do is to get Syria, to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit, and it's over."

Though it is unclear exactly who they were speaking about, the two had a curious exchange about another diplomat. "He thinks if Lebanon turns out fine, if we get a solution in Israel and Palestine, Iraq goes the right way--" began Blair.

"Yeah, yeah," observed Bush. "He is sweet."

"He is honey," was Blair's reply.

CONTINUED...

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Private_Bush_Blair_conversation_broadcast_at_0717.html

[mountainvue]

37. That was an uncomfortable moment in that

press conference. Clearly he expected the press corps to laugh and they didn't. It certainly gave me pause.

[Fredda Weinberg]

40. Yes, it was très gay n/t

[Moderator]

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