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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:46 PM
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Now that * had his meltdown over torture, will you sign?
I wrote it shortly after the 4th. It's been ignored since.


WHEREAS: The United States Supreme Court has affirmed in the Hamden Vs. Rumsfeld decision that The Geneva Conventions Apply to our current international conflicts.

WHEREAS: Alberto Gonzalas was the White House Counsel when that office considered the applicability of The Geneva Conventions and found them "obsolete" and "qauint."

WHEREAS: John Ashcroft was the Attorney General when the DOJ's Office of Legal Counsel was consulted by the White House Counsel in the matter of the applicability of Geneva and supported the White House position over the objections of the State Department.

WHEREAS: Donald Rumsfeld in his capacity as Secretary of Defense Infused a systemic culture of torture into his areas of official responsibility, effectively implementing the use of torture and other violations of Geneva Section 3, as the preferred method of obtaining intelligence.

WHEREAS: George Tenet in his capacity as Director, CIA, implemented or continued the illegal practice of Extra-ordinary Rendition and agents of the agency are indicted in the Italian Courts in connection with this practice.

WHEREAS: The implementation of this policy in 2 cabinet level departments of the government is evidence that this policy was ordered by the President.

WHEREAS: Congress has already seen 3 1/2 hours of Photographic and video torture evidence from Abu Ghraib prison, including evidence of torture induced death of detainees.

WHEREAS: Congress has made no move to inquire into the felonious behavior of the Executive Branch even though they have already seen a perponderance of evidence.

WHEREAS: Congress has discussed ignoring this breach of U.S. and International law, further discussing drafting legislation to enable similar behavior in the future.

WHEREAS: The damage to the international reputation of the United States is severe and will be long lasting.

WHEREAS: The international impact of these practices can be somewhat mitigated if the citizens of the United States hold the administration accountable and affirm we are indeed a nation of law.

THEREFORE: Be it resolved by we the undersigned do hereby demand a Special Grand Jury comprised of ordinary citizens, with unfettered investigatory powers be immediately empanneled in a court of appropriate jurisdiction for the purposes of the investigation of this and other matters of felonious behavior within the government as may be brought to thier attention.

Be it further resolved that if this Grand Jury is not empanneled by September 17, 2006, that the undersigned are prepared to gather, as is our Constitutionally defined right, as best we can, in a nationwide protest demanding redress.


I opened this petition on July 8th. I've gathered a whole 85 signatures. Folks, that is why the republics think they can get away with it. With almost 95000 DU accounts, I can only get 85 of us to sign something so obvious.

It's shameful. Demand our Leon Jaworski!

I will be at Camp Democracy on Sunday, for a while.

Disgustedly yours,
-Hoot
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:49 PM
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1. signed and recommended
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:59 PM
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21. same
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:53 PM
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2. Is there a DU Group where links to online petitions can be posted?
I don't know. Just asking.

K&R
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:54 PM
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3. In the second whereas, "quaint" is spelled wrong.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-15-06 11:55 PM
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4. Thanks,
You're the first to catch it, the text here is verbatim from the site.

-Hoot
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:29 AM
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6. No prob - and I signed
Maybe I should hold off on this reply so I can kick it back up in the morning. Had not seen it originally - maybe need to kick it back up once a week (or day!) if someone else doesn't do it.
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meldroc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:06 AM
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5. Signed, kicked & recommended
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:33 AM
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7. Signed, kicked, and rec'ed.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:54 AM
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8. Signed, K & R
First time I've seen this, or would have been on board much earlier.

:kick:
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:29 AM
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9. Well, it's up to 94 signatures now. I never saw this petition before
or I would have signed and forwarded it a long time ago. Sorry.
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MikeH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:43 AM
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10. I just signed it
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 01:44 AM by MikeH
I am #95.

Also K & R.

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hankthecrank Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:56 AM
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11. signed & R n/t
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:04 AM
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12. signed
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sazemisery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 07:18 AM
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13. I signed yours..will you sign mine? I too was ignored
I know that petitioning the government in Washington is the proper way to get the impeachment process going but there are two states that have laws that allow the impaneling of a county Grand Jury to investigate the misdeeds of our leaders.

Oklahoma is one of those states and we have started a dual petition drive to do just that. Citizens of Muskogee County, Oklahoma have started a petition. If you are a registered voter in that county, please refer to this link for more information:

http://www.bushbusiness.com/impeachment%20news.htm

All others please sign the online petition of support here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/gjprobe/petition.html

I got 13 recommendations but that has disappeared off the Greatest page. So, I know how it feels to be ignored but then I remember that people here at DU are fighting for their lives and for the liberty of this country and there are so many issues that the least of those will be overlooked. So, don't take it personally and please sign the online petition. Thanks.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:01 PM
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17. Sure, I thought I signed it before
But it's definately signed now.

I don't take it personally, but it still causes distress.

-Hoot
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:53 PM
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19. Did you post this in the Oklahoma section? That might help. You
can also re-post it.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 07:21 AM
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14. signed
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 07:35 AM
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15. Sign, Kick
:dem:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 08:25 AM
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16. Kick 'n keep kicked.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:10 PM
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18. All right then the number should go up one more
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zcflint09 Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:56 PM
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20. I've signed prior--but thank you!
K and R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:00 PM
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22. Another recommend. You're my hero!!!!! Keep pushing!!!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:55 PM
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23. Thanks again! n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 03:12 PM
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24. 111 No that's not freeper exclamation points, but the number of signers.
Thanks to all who signed.

Thanks to all who will sign.

-Hoot
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 03:20 PM
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25. I think empanel is spelled with one N
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 03:20 PM by tinfoilinfor2005
Someone should have proof-read this, but nevertheless it is passionate and deserves our signatures.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 06:38 PM
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26. Done, 118 now.
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 07:20 PM
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27. Done.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 09:07 PM
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28. Before you send this anywhere correct the spelling of "quaint."
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 09:17 PM
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29. Thank you! A truly impressive petition. DUers sign up now.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:21 PM
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30. Kicking this cuz it's now on page 2.
(And also because of its importance.)
:kick:
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:25 PM
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31. signed and sent
I also passed it along to some friends. I wished their had been more room for the e mails, I could have sent out at least 10 or 15 more. Can you change that? K&R
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 12:32 AM
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32. bush is a lunatic
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 01:08 PM
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33. Kick it back up!
From Page 4 to Page 1 (as it must).

:thumbsup:
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 01:25 PM
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34. done. Kick
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 01:33 PM
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35. Done 128 now
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:17 PM
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36. kicking n/t
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memory Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:29 PM
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37. Done!
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