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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:28 AM
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2 atheist states going to consider backing a religious theocracy's right
to have nuclear weapons. North Korea and Cuba are going to go with that? :shrug:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060915/ts_nm/nonaligned_dc_11
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:34 AM
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1. is North Korea atheist ?
don't they view the dead father and current ruler son to be some Gods ?

as for Cuba while i believe Castro may be atheist, i don't think they prevent people from practicing their religion. at least not as you see in China with the Falun Gong.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:36 AM
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2. The impression I had was that Cuba was very heavily Catholic.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:43 AM
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5. They are. I grew up in Union City, NJ.
Largest Cuban population at the time outside of Miami. Very, very Catholic.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:03 PM
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12. In a Santeria style -- Castro is considered a Santeria Priest
Among the Cuban poor. One probable reason why his government has remained stable.

They were sacrificing 1000's of chickens (and other animals) in secret ceremonies when Castro went into the hospital,
according to an NPR report.

The reporter went on to note how interestingly, most of Castro's senior aides are former divinity students, who recently asked for a prayer session with Jesuit priests, all of whom happened to be members of the Communist Party.

Clearly religion is a complicated subject in Cuba.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:17 PM
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14. Castro is an atheist
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:37 AM
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3. Both government's are officially atheist

Castro doesn't crack much due to how devout the bulk of the people are, I think North Korea is pretty strict.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:41 AM
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4. Why do you think their official "religion" is relevant?
Did they issue statements to make you think it was?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:43 AM
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6. they might be strict about people following certain religions
but the fact they view themselves as some Gods shows they are not atheist.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:13 AM
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7. So how do they view themselves as Gods n/t
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:06 PM
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13. Really?
Could you show me where the governments of either Cuba or North Korea have stated that atheism is the "state religion".

A lack of religion or a ban on religion doesn't automatically denote atheism. Castro and Kim Jong Il have simply replaced one set of dogmatic principles with another to enforce their rule.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 09:34 PM
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15. OK, in '91 they declared themselves a secular state
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 09:35 PM by RGBolen
departing from the 1961 declaration
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 08:43 AM
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8. North Korea is "atheist."
Its been a known fact for over fifty years.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 08:59 AM
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9. Why is their official "religion" relevant to their support of Iran?
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:11 PM
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10. You tell me.
I'm just agreeing with post #3.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 01:37 PM
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11. Then please tell me why their official religion is relevant.
I have no idea why it makes any difference in this context.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 09:36 PM
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16. "Enemy of my enemy"
A fine mess we're in, isn't it?
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