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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:01 AM
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"What does that mean, 'outrages upon human dignity?'"
Now, that is something I never dreamed I'd hear an American president say. Ever.

Just when you think he can't shock and awe you anymore, he delivers a gut punch.

President Terror's Completely Insane Press Conference

Bush said the Geneva Convention's ban was "very vague" and required clarification. "What does that mean, 'outrages upon human dignity?' That's a statement that is wide open to interpretation."

He said that unless Congress acts, the CIA will end its program of tough interrogation methods that the administration says has prevented attacks.

"So Congress has got a decision to make," Bush said. "You want the program to go forward or not? I strongly recommend that this program go forward in order for us to be able to protect America."


Get that, America? If Congress doesn't "clarify" what "human dignity" means, in exactly the way he wants them to, the President is going to tell the CIA to stop interrogating suspected terrorists, like the petulant titty-baby he is. And America can just suck it, I guess.

When we get attacked again (and they're strongly hinting that it's coming), I guess this Administration is trying to tell us that it's gonna be our fault for being such pussywimp bedwetters from the get-go.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:05 AM
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1. Good! let the progam not go forward, you criminal dolt. Torture
doesn't even WORK! Unamerican idiot son of an idiot son.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:07 AM
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2. Oh man, that IS nuts to hear a U.S. President say. Ugh...
  The thing that astounds me is that, no joke, he really does outdo himself on a regular basis.

PB
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:08 AM
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3. The whole world is watching... the whole world is watching...
... the whole world is watching.

:-(
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:19 AM
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4. He IS insane, Jen.
I went to bed last night more scared than I have even been about this batshit crazy fool sitting in the oval office. I watched the clip from "Countdown" with Fineman and Turley, and I have never been more scared. That fool thinks he is the only one who can save the world, and it has to be done his way. He has become a bigger fanatic than the ones he thinks he is saving us from. God help us all if we don't take the Congress this fall. There is just nothing this maniac wouldn't do.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:31 AM
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6. I can't even write or talk about him without cursing wildly.
It's chilling to the bone that this Most Dangerous President Ever still has supporters.

A sizeable amount of supporters.

When I find myself 100% in agreement with Andrew Sullivan, I know the country is changing.

No American President should be given a pass for saying "outrages upon human dignity are open to interpretation."

I will absolutely blame the media and Congress if they do not hold him accountable for that deplorable, reprehensible, un-American statement.

The whole world is watching...
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 09:55 AM
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18. That's what has been bothering me, too
He's talking and acting crazier and crazier. He has apparently convinced himself that he, and only he, can save civilization. He thinks he hears god talk to him, and concludes that he must act on what god says. Apparently, god is saying that Bush needs to order a lot of people killed and tortured.

He absolves himself of any culpability, because he is only carrying out the wishes of the divine being who gives him orders. I believe that Cheney, Rummy, and Rove, among others, encourage his delusions, because they are able to manipulate him that way.

Far from being what he sees himself as being, a strong, resolute leader, he is an insane, not very bright sociopath, who is being used as a puppet by others, because he sees himself accomplishing god's wishes. He thinks he is special, and the chosen one. People like him will not listen to reason, or dissent, or anything else but the voices in their heads, and the people who reinforce his delusions.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:22 AM
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5. The situation that epitomizes the phrase,
"outrage on human dignity" has to be the treatment of the victims in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina.

Piss-'n-boots has the amazing ability to, with a straight face, provide both sides of a moral question within the same speech, often within the same sentence.

He condemns killing while killing people, torture while torturing, and defends democracy while doing his level best to destroy it.

With the entire world looking on, and in possession of lurid pictures illustrating the torture that Americans have inflicted upon innocents, this rat's ass can say convincingly(and be absolutely convinced, himself) "we do not torture!"

Such a walking, talking lump of astounding hypocrisy, if not an outrage, is an affront to human dignity.`
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 06:20 AM
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10. NBoortz cited apt owners in Houston complaining abt damage
done by Katrina evacuees. He said he warned Houston when 'they' got on the bus at the Superdome: Houston was setting itself up for many problems from 'those people.'
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:59 AM
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7. It is outrageous that the media made a "to do" over the definition of the
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 06:25 AM by mtnester
word "is" and is NOT calling for blivet's removal 24/7 over THIS statement?

The press, as a whole, has become a fucking bunch of enablers and sympathizers to the DISMANTLING of what this country, and civilization in general, stand for. I BLAME them more than anything else....even more than Diebold, more than the PNAC, more than Rove...they are complicit and in my mind, just as guilty of torture as those who authorize it, those who perform it and those who try to "spin"it. Congressional leaders are not far behind in my blame game either.

My god America...our fucking president just stood up in the past few days and "spun" the right to torture, perhaps even to death, men, women, children...just because they WORSHIP DIFFERENTLY..because they are Muslims, because they are from a different place than we live, because they look different and sound different.

People, we are the New Inquisition.

Who's next?

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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 06:07 AM
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8. That's a good point, and you'll hear media-types chuckle....
... to this day about "what the definition of 'is' is."

All the time, when pundits are on television talking about Matters of Utmost Importance and Gravity, they'll slip that little line in. "Well, Chris Matthews, that depends on what the definition of 'is' is!"

And much hilarity ensues. To. This. Day.

Remember... today, the President told his "subjects" that it is "unacceptable to think."

The whole world is watching.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 06:16 AM
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9. That he actually said
this: "It's unacceptable to think that there's any kind of comparison between the behavior of the United States of America and the action of Islamic extremists who kill innocent women and children to achieve an objective."
is all the proof I needed re his complete and utter lunacy. Bush is fugging mad. That the White House Press Corp allowed him to get away with the above statement speaks volumes, but Colbert has already described those whores.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 06:28 AM
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11. Someone should tell him, "You'd know it if it was happening to you." nt
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 06:29 AM
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12. This?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 06:47 AM
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13. Thank you. (n/t)
:dem:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 09:05 AM
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16. You're welcome.. I just want people to stop burying their heads in the
sand..
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 06:53 AM
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14. You just know
karl first thought that line up. They will also at some future date want to re-visit "Thou shall not kill" as being sort of vague as well.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 08:48 AM
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15. hold forever without charge or courts is in both McCain and Bush bill -
n/t
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crappyjazz Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 09:09 AM
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17. it's too much
Still reeling over this one, I can't believe he actually said this and in public.

So the "leader" of the "free world" is basically telling America, "if I don't get my way, I won't do anything to protect you anymore"

What.The.Fuck?
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:27 PM
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19. That's exactly what he's telling America.
And his supporters continue to root him on.

Yeeeee-haw!!!

He is an embarrassment. If we live through all of this, history will remember him as the most dangerous American president.
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