I'm sick of hearing the Right constantly dump on Jimmy Carter

[jeffgad]

for high gas prices, his inability to deal with Iran, and his botched mideast miltary adventure. Jesus Christ, sound familiar??

[Swede]

1. GOP former presidents golf,Dems try to improve the world.

That's a fact.

[whistle]

2. I suppose the right wingers of that period should have been called

...on their bullshit back then, but America believed that by being polite, or passive, or taking the higher ground, or just not affirming these reactionary extremists from the right, they and their kind would somehow just dry up and disappear. Well, it did not happen, and it will never happen. Lies and the liars who utter them live on in a dark and low existence. So, we have to respond. But we can't respond in kind, because then these low lives win in their dirty despicable way. So when we hear their lies we must immediately stand up to them with courage and with truth and expose the liars.

[ricochetastroman]

3. Piling on Carter

really... I mean to think of a modern day president trying to appear civil...
think matters through...
trying to moderate and bring warring factions to the same table...
wanting to pay the country's bills...
shying away from sound bites...
putting peace above all else...
what an idiot

[Poll_Blind]

4. I wasn't old enough to really recollect Carter as a president but...

...as an ex-president I think he has done an outstanding job. Carters behavior is a model of politcal pragmatism which is mature enough to step outside of party politics and apply the best solution to a problem which BOTH the Democrats and Rethuglicans get their feathers ruffled by. There are people on DU who think that Carter is "filth" because of his even-handed stance on Middle East politics, for instance. No messages to direct you twoards, all removed, water under the bridge, etc. But because he's left the orbit of either the left and the right in this country and, as I said above, attempts to apply the correct solution to a problem regardless of who it may harelip, politically, I have to applaud him. He serves the people well. But when he dies I fear he's not going to get the level of credit he's due because he doesn't let playing politics override his humanity.

  If he stumbled over a few hurdles when president I cannot hold it against him: At least, for the most part, he tried. Bush has continually stumbled over politcal obstacles because he refused to lower himself to exertion, which is pathetic.

  Bush isn't just scum...he's not a man in my opinion. He has no honor and brings dishonor and shame on this country's name. Must...stop....now....I can tell when I'm getting angry because I start hitting the keys much harder. Poor keyboard!

PB

[Democrat 4 Ever]

5. You will never convince me that Reagan and his minions didn't deal

with Iran secretly to hold the hostages until after the elections and inauguration. The repugs used the hostages for political gain. I believe that promises were made (and money? arms? changed hands) so that the repugs could run on high gas prices and the ineffectiveness of Carter to free the hostages so that Reagan's handlers could seize power back after the snafus of the Nixon era. They knew they had fucked up royally (the sin of actually getting caught - not the crime) with their tricks with Nixon so they had to have something spectacular to hang on Carter and unfortunately Iran accommodated them. Carter is a good, decent and honest politician - something that is a complete enigma for the GOP.

That those people (and their families) were held hostage for months and months just so the repugs could skewer an election is just typical GOP tricks.

Carter has been proved over and over again to be ten times the person anyone of those asswipes could ever be.

I also, believe that Reagan was already showing signs of senility before he ever ran the first time but that was a plus for the GOP. The better to handle him. The GOP do not run personally strong candidates (Goldwater was the last), they always look for the weak and ineffectual to be the front man for their nefarious deeds. Chucklenuts will go down in history as the most reviled and hated of all presidents while his handlers laugh all the way to the bank. Mission accomplished.

[Hamlette]

6. the hatred of Carter by the right is bizarre.

A woman I worked with considered him the most evil person who ever lived (her words) and responsible for all the evil in the world. When I asked her why it was because he somehow knew and allowed the take over of our embassy in Iran. Which made him 100% pure evil. (She had other vague reasons that made no sense.)

I just don't get it. But that kind of hatred of a president gained popularity under Clinton.

I fear for our next (if ever) dem president. The right was emboldened under Clinton and won't stop.

[CarlVK]

7. They hate Carter because he is a wonderful, moral man.

He is without a doubt the most socially conscious, spiritual and sincere president of my lifetime so far. Why anyone could bag on this man is, well, there is no sane reason. I have to keep reminding myself of the source of such ridicule.

[China_cat]

8. They dump on him because he's living the book

they only thump.

[ricochetastroman]

9. US is a Cancer

To me, it is simple.

This fragmented We vs. They stuff started with Reagan and his handlers.
Create "evil liberals" who are responsible for all of this stuff.
Afterall, this is partially an astrology group...
Reagan utilized the fear of the Cancer country (timid, scared, tender) and through the ABUSE of Nancy's astrologer guided Ronnie to hide when the planets were active and act when the planets were dead. Exact opposite of how one should use astrological advice.

His wife being a Cancer of course wanted him safe. My contention is that teflon-Ronnie used astrology much, much, more than anyone will ever know. His ducking when the planets were active gave him his stick-proof surface.

9/11 has taught us that two big oceans and two timid, weak neighbors no longer suffice as a firm outer shell (Cancer crab) to protect us.

Answer: blame EVERYTHING on Democrats/liberals. Own/buy the media. Scare everybody. Bush is an A-hole but his handlers know how to continue to wave the mythical "US is the greatest flag - support our troops".

Just like I give advice to my Cancer clients, and they don't usually listen because it's just too threatening: Come out of your shell (U.S.) and face what's really happening in the real world. This is really coming forefront now with the recent Saturn opposition to Neptune.

The real shame of all of this is that still, the clueless Democrats still don't know how to combat this, organize, and effectively come up with someone to run in the next election.

We will learn from this one, and I believe that it will really be a painful lesson. Thank God, truly, for groups like this who are lifting their collective heads out of the sand.

I don't know whatever happened to the "United" in the "United States."

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