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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:41 AM
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Bush Admits That He Doesn't Know The Meaning Of Human Dignity
Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 10:42 AM by kpete
September 17, 2006
Bush admits that he doesn't know the meaning of human dignity
by Mary Shaw

In a press conference in the White House rose garden last Friday, the so-called leader of the free world told us that he needs Congress to pass his pro-torture legislation because the Geneva Conventions are "too vague".

Specifically, George W. Bush said the following:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060915-2.html

"This debate is occurring because of the Supreme Court's ruling that said that we must conduct ourselves under the Common Article III of the Geneva Convention. And that Common Article III says that there will be no outrages upon human dignity. It's very vague.
What does that mean, "outrages upon human dignity"? That's a statement that is wide open to interpretation. And what I'm proposing is that there be clarity in the law so that our professionals will have no doubt that that which they are doing is legal."

There you go.

The President of the United States does not know what "human dignity" means. He needs clarification.

By the way, the Geneva Conventions really are quite clear.
http://www.globalissuesgroup.com/geneva/texts.html

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=1739
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:43 AM
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1. that's the part of his tantrum that really shocked me - he has to be
force-fed intructions and guidelines on how to be a human being. He's a sociopath.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:43 AM
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2. dumbass is the first person in history too dense to understand
the Geneva Convention, apparently
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:45 AM
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3. I'm willing to believe it.
I'm willing to believe that George W. Bush is incapable of making ethical distinctions. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if he were unable to even define human dignity, let alone steer the nation toward a political and cultural climate where it holds primacy.

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:53 AM
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4. A sociopath does not care what human dignity is
Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 10:54 AM by undergroundpanther
So because Bush IS a sociopath he does not care what human dignity is.
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It's empathy that makes us as human as we are, while helping us to manage our most violent feelings.
We don't kill others or ourselves because we still see the human being in others, and ourselves and feel sympathy or caring.
When our sense of connection is gone, then any kind of violence can be unleashed.

People who torture others have lost touch with their own humanity. No longer able to care about themselves, they grow to hate others. Desperate to have any kind of feeling, they torture feelings out of others.
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Empathy is antithetical to control, which is why control systems demand psychopathy as the standard mode of function."
Keep hierarchy and contractual obligation prostrate before caring, compassion, and a heart-felt responsibility for all life.
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People who cannot contain their urges to harm (or kill) people repeatedly for no apparent reason are assumed to suffer from some mental illness. However, they may be more cruel than crazy, they may be choosing not to control their urges, they know right from wrong, they know exactly what they're doing, and they are definitely NOT insane, at least according to the consensus of most scholars (Samenow 2004).

Sociopathy is chiefly characterized by something wrong with the person's conscience. They either don't have one, it's full of holes like Swiss cheese, or they are somehow able to completely neutralize or negate any sense of conscience or future time perspective. Sociopaths only care about fulfilling their own needs and desires - selfishness and egocentricity to the extreme. Everything and everybody else is mentally twisted around in their minds as objects to be used in fulfilling their own needs and desires. They often believe they are doing something good for society, or at least nothing that bad.

http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/428/428lect16.htm
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 11:29 AM
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7. Don't let the myths get you

REALITY: For a lot of people, it is easier to believe that an abuser is mentally ill than it is to accept that they know exactly what they are doing when they assault, or rape or torture their partner. Most people who abuse their partners are only violent to them, never to anyone else. Most abusers are able to function normally in society, in the workplace, in all their other contacts with people.


MYTH: "Those who abuse were abused themselves as children."

REALITY: There is no evidence that there is a 'cycle of violence', whereby children who were abused, or who witnessed abuse, go on to become abusers themselves. Many abusers come from families with no history of abuse. Many have brothers who are not abusive.
Children who witness abuse do not automatically grow up to be abusive towards their partners, many completely reject the use of abusive behaviour as a result of their experiences.


http://www.scottishwomensaid.co.uk/myths02.html
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 11:01 AM
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5. Can you say sociopath?!
There it is in black and white folks! :evilfrown:
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 11:07 AM
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6. He really is a sociopath...
Unfortunately, it seems like this country gets the leadership it deserves.
His "Christian" followers are sociopaths, and that's why they like him so much.
They can all relate to each other!

Once the pendulum swings back in the other direction, we really need to figure out how to keep these people at bay.
We must figure out how to keep them out of power forever and always.
If they don't destroy us all and everything first...
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 11:39 AM
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8. Maybe the lil' kingy-georgie should read the New Testament...
I think there are a lot of it about human dignity he could learn from, but I'll take it as another proof of king george's being unable to read anything.

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