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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:43 PM
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2006 Senate Race Projection - 51/49
Democrats not up for reelection (12 in 2008, 15 in 2010) = 27
=27 Dems

Safe Democrats by state = 13:
Feinstein (CA)
Carper (DE)
Nelson (FL)
Akaka (HI)
Kennedy (MA)
Stabenow (MI)
Nelson (NE)
Bingaman (NM)
Clinton (NY)
Conrad (ND)
Cantwell (WA)
Byrd (WV)
Kohl (WI)
=40 Dems

Safe Seats for Democratic Caucus with Independent Candidates:
Connecticut: +1 Leiberman wins. Sorry everyone, I think he wins this, unless LaMont realllly puts some pressure on somehow. Either way it's a seat for Democrats.
Vermond: +1 Sanders wins this seat and we gain a great guy in the caucus.
=42 Dems

Democrats in trouble:
New Jersey: +1 - fragile Mendendez needs to get on TV NOW NOW NOW saying, "I am not a rubber stamp for George W. Bush." He needs to get ahead and then run up the score, fast. Tom Kean Jr. has nothing but a name, but he's trending upwards right now. I call this one for Menendez right now. That projection may not hold.
=43 Dems


Safe Democratic Gains:
Tester (MT) - +1 Burns is toast, this is Tester's race to lose.
Casey (PA) - +1 He has a double digit lead. With 2 months left, there's no way for Santorum to close that gap.
Brown (OH) - +1 DeWine will not be able to make up the difference here either, he may close to 2%-3%, but not the 5-7% it will take.
=46 Dems

Open Seats:
Maryland: +1 Ben Cardin is the next senator from MD.
Minnesota: +1 Klobuchar will easily defeat Kennedy by 3-6%.
Tennessee: Though Harold Ford, Jr. is quite conservative, even by conservative magazine rankings, he's got a couple big handicaps in a state that has trended to the extreme right since Al Gore, Jr. left them. The good thing in this race is that Ford is doing things right. If he pulls it off, we have a blueprint for winning in the south. He's trending upwards right now, but 2 months is a long time for Ford's candidacy. But understand, this is THE definition of a toss-up right now. Until Ford pulls ahead of the margin of error, he does not win this race.
=48 Dems

Weak Republican Incumbant, Democratic gains:
Rhode Island: +1 - fraglie Whitehouse should defeat Chafee.
=49 Dems

Weak Republicans, potential Democratic gains MUST WIN ONE OF THESE:
Missouri: Clair McCaskill (D) could pull this off. Nailbighter. Some polls have her ahead, but still within the Margin of Error. I'm not ready to call it for her, but this may be our best shot at number 50.
Virginia: Webb can make it close, but victory is a longshot. This is probably our second best shot at getting one of these seats.
Arizona: Pederson could make it close, but victory over Kyl is unlikely. Pederson may get within 3%, but that's probably about as close as he gets.
Nevada: Sorry Jack Carter, won't happen.
=49 Dems - I really hope a Dem wins one of these races, MO is most likely right now, or TN takes us to 50. I'm not ready to project either of those things happening. Democrats reaching 51 is basically impossible.

50/50 is possible.
51/49 is likely.
52/48 is guaranteed.

Notes:
As of right now, Menendez is the only Democrat on the defensive. That's a good spot for us to be in.
As of right now, we are guaranteed 48 seats. With a Chafee loss we get 49 seats.
Those 12 Dems in 2008 are all safe seats except Landrieu (LA) and Tim Johnson (SD)
Watch Tennessee and New Jersey closely, these are the states that matter most right now.
Cheney has only had to vote 7 times.


Feel free to disagree, check my math, and offer other insights. I'd especially like feedback from people in NJ, TN, MO, and VA.

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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:49 PM
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1. I count NJ as a loss
Menendez is losing to Kean in the most four recent polls taken, and in each one he's losing by 4%-5%. WHile Menendez can attack the culture of corruption amongst the national GOP, Kean can counter by attacking the culture of corruption amongst the state DEMOCRATS. The former state Senate President pleading guilty to corruption, and new allegations against former Governor McGreevey will only hurt Menendez. He also has a probe looking into some of his rental activities, even though the probe itself appears to be politically-motivated.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:53 PM
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4. I think we will win NJ
though it will be close. In the final analysis I don't see NJ voting for a pro Bush Republican.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:56 PM
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10. The problem is that Kean Jr. has been distancing himself
If you go to his website, there's a web-ad where he bills himself as an "independent" who will take on both Corzine and Bush (and yes he says that he will take on Bush in that web-ad.) And his father is viewed favorably by many New Jerseyans (although I don't think many of them know about his shilling to Path to 9/1 yet) although his son is much more conservative than his father (he's flip flopped on supporting Social Security privatization, and while he claims to oppose it now, he voted against a State Senate resolution condemning Bush's privatization plan last year.)
And it's hard for us to use "culture of corruption" as a meme against Kean, when state Democrats are full of corruption in their own right.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:49 PM
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2. You are reasonably close
I think we have a better shot in VA than in TN and am a little worried about Stebbenow but otherwise I largely agree.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:51 PM
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3. Stabenow is safe.
I'm only worried about NJ.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:53 PM
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5. Stabenow is OK.
Bouchard has barely broken 45%.... she's safe.
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2006/States/michigan.html
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:54 PM
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6. I'm not sure about VA vs. TN
On one hand race may work against Ford, but he's a hell of a good campaigner. His ads are running things that I've been wanting to see for quite some time, even if I disagree with Ford on many issues personally. Although this could change, and the Vote Vets ad might do some damage against Felix.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:54 PM
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7. I saw Webb and Allen on Meet the Press this morning.
If many undecided or independent voters saw this show, I would think that debate went to Webb. He's far superior to the smirking opponent, Allen. I see as many signs out for Webb as for Allen and I read far more LTTE favoring Webb than for Allen. I'm hoping so many people in this state are as discussed with the republicans as we are that Webb will be the next Senator.
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:54 PM
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8. I'm in PA
And Casey is sucking. He had more than twenty points on Santorum but now shitface is closing the gap.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:59 PM
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11. Santorum has been on an ad blitz
And Casey was underwhelming in the MTP debate, although I'm not sure if he really got hurt by that because it took place over Labor Day weekend when most people are on vacation, and because Santorum made several comments where he shot himself in the foot (he reiterated his support for privatization, and he said that he still supports Bush and Rumsfeld.)
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John Gauger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 05:02 PM
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13. Well, that's what we need to keep pushing
I am very much startled that Shitface is coming back. My father is still convinced that we will take it away.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:50 AM
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19. Honestly, this is Casey's race to lose
If he can't beat Santorum without heavy difficulty, then he was probably a poor choice to begin with.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:47 PM
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21. That's absolutely correct. nt.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:56 PM
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9. My feeling is we are in better shape in NJ and Virginia.
I think Allen is being exposed by Webb as an empty, RW suit. And I think Menendez is way too smart to allow Kean to get close enough to threaten down the stretch. On the other hand, I don't see the dem winning in RI.

But I'm not watching that closely, so I could easily be wrong.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:59 PM
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12. RI is iffy
Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 05:01 PM by Ignacio Upton
It could go either way, and making a prediction about it now is hard to do. WIth regards to VA and NJ, I think that we have a better chance in VA, as Allen is hurting, but so is Menendez in NJ.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 07:32 PM
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17. I agree
I'd think there's an awfully good shot Chaffee heads back.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 05:38 PM
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14. I'm more optimistic

I'm not buying that Lieberman wins. The latest poll has him up 45-43, not two weeks from Lieberman leading by 51-38. Trend has Lamont passing him within the next week and going over 50% in two or three. Lamont is actually running a decent race with a lot of quiet effort building a turnout operation while Joe keeps on footbulleting in his blustery PR-based campaign. If you've followed that race, there's only one way voters are going- no one ever goes back to Joe.

New Jersey Democratic leaners wait until early October to make up their minds, and they give the Republican candidate a more than fair chance to prove he's not the standard GOP bonehead they usually get presented. I don't know why anyone thinks this race is as close as it appears. Menendez only needs enough money for a decent ad barrage to win, and he has that.

Pennsylvania and Minnesota are partisanly split very similarly at 54-46 plus or minus 1%. Neither Knobluchar or Casey are going to win with much more than 8%, if that, but why care about the margin- what matters is that they simply do win.

You're right that McCaskill-Talent is the fight for the 50th Democratic seat. McCaskill seems to be edging ahead very slightly as time goes on.

I don't know why everyone buys the claim that the Nevada and Arizona races are not competitive if not more so than the two in the South. A lot of Kyl's support is based on Republicans delivering on illegal immigration, which is not going to happen. Nevada is far less clear a story, there's a lot more Democratic work going on there, and the Democrat running for governor is in fact leading consistently. I suspect Ford Jr has reached the ceiling for Democrats in Tennessee at 48%. Virginia I don't pretend to understand enough to have a sense of Webb's chances.
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 06:36 PM
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15. I like how you refer to it as a "ceiling."
That term puts it into even better perspective for everyone.

In terms of majority, CT is win-win. Joe only really matters on Iraq (Yes I know that for some Iraq is everything. I'm that way.) and a few other lesser things...
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 07:26 PM
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16. I disagree with some of that
Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 07:34 PM by Awsi Dooger
Carter has no chance in Nevada. In fact, Ensign will be hell for us to defeat in any of the coming cycles. That doesn't seem to be understood outside of this state. You can't just look at Ensign as a mediocrity and Nevada as trending blue and therefore assign Ensign as vulnerable.

Ensign held the Nevada-1 congressional seat in Las Vegas from '94 to '98. It is an overwhelmingly Democratic district now held by Shelly Berkley. The only way a Democrat wins statewide in Nevada is to win huge in Clark County (Las Vegas) then minimize losses in the remainder of the state. More than half the votes in the state come from Clark County. Since Ensign is known in that district and his base is Las Vegas from his years as a veterinarian here, he destroys the typical blueprint for Democratic victory. It can't happen for Carter and won't happen in '12 or '18 unless we have an extraordinary candidate. The only chance this cycle was mayor Oscar Goodman but I doubt he could have defeated Ensign.

Also, in the governors race we are undeniably the underdog, although Titus has a chance. I would peg her down by 4-6 points. There hasn't been a recent poll other than Zogby interactive, which had Titus ahead a couple of weeks ago then flipped to Gibbons' favor. Previous polls had Gibbons ahead of Titus, normally high single digits. Gibbons has significantly more money than Titus and I'm afraid that has become a big factor in this race. Immediately after the August 15 primary he went on the air with several commericals listing areas in which Titus supposedly voted to raise taxes. At the end of the commercial she is called Dina Taxes and that has become a part of the local vocabulary. I've heard it many times around town when her name is mentioned. Someone will say, "Dina Titus? Oh, you mean Dina Taxes." She has yet to go on the air to respond.

I'm hopeful for Menendez and think he will pull this out, although many sharp people from New Jersey warned before he was named by Corzine that Menendez would have by far the most trouble winning a general election, among the logical choices Corzine had.

Lamont is going to lose. There is no such thing as momentum or trend lines among the independents and Republicans. Unless Schlesinger more than triples his support into the mid-teens, the logical percentages among each group simply don't add up in Lamont's favor.

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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:36 AM
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18. Let's see....
Lamont is going to lose. There is no such thing as momentum or trend lines among the independents and Republicans. Unless Schlesinger more than triples his support into the mid-teens, the logical percentages among each group simply don't add up in Lamont's favor.

Democrats are leaving Lieberman. The unions that backed Lieberman up to the primary have gone "neutral" publicly, but the word is that they're telling their people to vote Lamont. Reid and Clinton haven't merely sent their better campaign staff to Connecticut. Don't underestimate the effects of three House campaigns in a state of five House districts, either, of which Democrats expect to take at least two. As for Lieberman, the kinds of scurrilous aggressiveness and faux outrage with which he now attempts to obscure a mediocre or poor record just don't play well with New Englanders. He's losing the battle with his own record. Lamont just keeps him fighting it, and he desperately keeps on trying to twist out of it. The impression I get is that CT Republicans are thinking long and hard about going back to supporting Schlessinger, who is wrongheaded and something of a bore, but he has dignity and is no opportunist.

Next door, in Rhode Island, crossover-voting Democrats and Democratic-leaning Indies have left Chafee almost entirely. Who is substantially more palatable. Chafee got 54% while Gore got 58% iirc. Chafee is now at 42 or 43%- Bush's vote in 2004. There's no reason in sight for those who give up support for him to return.

Carter has no chance in Nevada. In fact, Ensign will be hell for us to defeat in any of the coming cycles. That doesn't seem to be understood outside of this state. You can't just look at Ensign as a mediocrity and Nevada as trending blue and therefore assign Ensign as vulnerable.

He's very capable and smart. His problem is that he's a hardliner in a bad year for hardliners.

Ensign held the Nevada-1 congressional seat in Las Vegas from '94 to '98. It is an overwhelmingly Democratic district now held by Shelly Berkley. The only way a Democrat wins statewide in Nevada is to win huge in Clark County (Las Vegas) then minimize losses in the remainder of the state. More than half the votes in the state come from Clark County. Since Ensign is known in that district and his base is Las Vegas from his years as a veterinarian here, he destroys the typical blueprint for Democratic victory. It can't happen for Carter and won't happen in '12 or '18 unless we have an extraordinary candidate. The only chance this cycle was mayor Oscar Goodman but I doubt he could have defeated Ensign.

If you look nationally, the pattern to Chafee and soon Lieberman support is in evidence all over. Moderates were a soft sell for hardline Republicans in '00, '02, and '04. This year there's sales resistance that becomes mostly rejection. After reading your post (and writing a post in reply, but getting a hardware crash) I went back to my data and maps. This near-hostility between moderates and hardline Republicans begins along the northern border of the Lower 48, more strongly to the east, during the late spring, and it has moved south and net west. The Republicans that being hit by it are hardliners and their enablers- e.g. Santorum, the Indiana House threesome, rightly or wrongly Chafee- and those beating it are those without significant opponents and/or a reputation for moderacy or cooperation with Democrats (e.g. Snowe, Lugar, maybe Shays).

I've looked at the picture and this split has gone as far south as hitting Pombo (down 42-46) and Doolittle in northern Cal, the Heller/Derby race (45/37 according to Rasmussen iirc; Gibbons used to clear 70%) and Sali/Grant House race near your locale, the Braley run in eastern Iowa and Jim Leach falling under 50% in southern Iowa (47/33 vs Loebsack in a local poll). It seems to be hitting Jim Talent this week, maybe (down to 42% according to Rasmussen). I'm not up on numbers or events in the Colorado Seventh, but John Salazar is running in the clear on the West Slope and so is Jim Matheson in eastern Utah, and to the east of Denver there are the post-Hefley Republican problems in the Colorado Fourth, with Dennis Moore safe further along the line in eastern Kansas. In the East the line of moderate disagreement with hardline R's to the point of tipping races seems to be going through Tennessee and Virginia or North Carolina, e.g the Taylor-Shuler race.

South of this hypothetical line at present are the contests in Southern Cal and Las Vegas, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas eastward to South Carolina and Florida. I suppose Hawai'i too. Democrats are behind in the great majority of them- more than enough Democrats and leaners in these states and districts are still willing to crossover vote for the likes of Linda Lingle, Brian Bilbray, Duncan Hunter, Ensign, Porter, Gibbons, Kyl, Renzi, Heather Wilson, Henry Bonilla, and so on all the way to Clay Shaw's and Mark Foley's districts in Florida. There are a few exceptions- incumbents or well-knowns Napolitano, maybe Giffords, Chet Edwards and Jim Marshall get moderate votes in bulk.

I'm watching for the moderate/R hardliner breakup to proceed farther south, but it could be a while. I expect, but I'm not sure, that it will reach LV and LA/San Diego and the southern border to El Paso or further east before Election Day. (I'm less confident about Florida, and it won't be enough to change important races anywhere else in the Deep South this year in any case.) The race of the kind in the Southwest that seems diagnostic and best covered is the Madrid-Wilson contest. Wilson has survived the last three elections on an infamous amount of crossover votes in Albuquerque- and she hopes to succeed Pete Domenici in the Senate on strength of further ones in '08.

Well, that's too much detail, really. But I think this phenomenon is real and feel fairly sure some of the Nevada contests are going to be a lot better for Democrats shortly before Election Day than they are now.

Also, in the governors race we are undeniably the underdog, although Titus has a chance. I would peg her down by 4-6 points. There hasn't been a recent poll other than Zogby interactive, which had Titus ahead a couple of weeks ago then flipped to Gibbons' favor. Previous polls had Gibbons ahead of Titus, normally high single digits. Gibbons has significantly more money than Titus and I'm afraid that has become a big factor in this race. Immediately after the August 15 primary he went on the air with several commericals listing areas in which Titus supposedly voted to raise taxes. At the end of the commercial she is called Dina Taxes and that has become a part of the local vocabulary. I've heard it many times around town when her name is mentioned. Someone will say, "Dina Titus? Oh, you mean Dina Taxes." She has yet to go on the air to respond.

I didn't even bother to read the Zogby results b/c of the 'method'. SUSA and Rasmussen and such are far more reliable and accurate, sadly enough. As for vocal vehemence by hardline Pubbies, locally (i.e. Boston) I'm hearing a lot nastier parroted hate radio excoriations of Democrats and ragings at John Kerry and Ted Kennedy from them than I did in 2004. Those aren't exactly the noises of impending victory or confidence in their Cause.
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 03:04 AM
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20. There are obviously going to be debates,
probably two or three in each state. I think Ford is going to shine in his debates and take that momentum to victory.
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