"Jesus Camp" -- item on ABC News a short while ago....

[Skidmore]

madrasahs for Christian kids. Youth minister said she wanted the kids to come out of the camp "ready to die" for their religion, just like the kids of at least a half a dozen groups she rattled off from other extremist religious cultures.

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. I want my peace-loving Xns to denounce that group.

[Warpy]

6. Forget it, mainstream religion has been dropping the ball

on extremism for decades. They obviously have no problem with zealots trying to turn children into kill crazy lunatics.

It's not just the Christians, either. No main stream religion has EVER tried to rein in the zealots. They've always found them too useful.

[KittyWampus]

12. you don't pay much attention to anything outside your narrow belief system

do you? It seems not, from your post.

Perhaps you haven't noticed any of the MANY churches, ministers and lay people speaking up and out. DU'ers post stuff about them all the time.

Even some Evangelicals are speaking out. There have been some really interesting threads... guess you missed them all.

But then actually paying attention to the voices of Unity would interfer with your preconcieved notions.

[Warpy]

15. You're right, I stay away from religious groups

because I'm NOT religious. I just report what I hear from the people around me who are.

What I hear are very tentative sermons from ministers who are deathly afraid of alienating well heeled GOP church members, a well founded fear if many of the stories people tell me about shrinking congregations whenever any of the GOP's extremist social agenda was questioned per the words of Christ are true.

I've heard from mostly younger evangelicals in a group called Free Style Evangelicals who are questioning the deplorable environmental record and disdain for the poor, although I don't hear much questioning of forcing their religion on unwilling people via antiabortion laws, refusing to dispense legal prescriptions for birth control, extending access to the body of contract law concering marriage to gays, and the struggle to get Plan B on the market OTC.

I've watched Jim Wallis videos on the web and like much of what he has to say, but he still wants to force his religion on unwilling people through all of the above.

I stand by what I said. Nobody with real power or media access is taking on the extremists who want to force their narrow religious interpretations onto a whole country as law, as amendments to the constitution denying civil rights, and through pure bullying and intimidation.

The only people who are questioning any of this are some of the Christian posters on DU, and you know how much power we all wield here.

[bleedinglib]

9. Drinkin' the kool-aid ??

I'm a born again Christian Democrat!! and I challenge anyone too knock the dust off the "New Testament" and try and explain how Jesus would condone Hatred against any person??
The ignorance of the people following these "Camp Clowns" is simple, they don't know the word?? I'v fled a few churches because of the rankor these wing-nut pastors spew out, (John Hagee) is a good example.
Their message is saving America from liberalism by any means possible?
I don't know what happened too salvation? that is rarely mentioned??
Suggestion? If your pastor isn't preaching the word of God, Git up and leave before you put any money in their collection plate. They really don't have your best interest in mind.
Oh, bye the way, Jesus is the most LIBERAL person to ever walk the earth.




Thanks, Bleedinglib

[newyawker99]

17. Hi bleedinglib!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Junkdrawer]

2. Truly a scary development....

Wonder where they'll get the brown-shirts for the next Kristalnaght? Look no further.

[undeterred]

3. Well, maybe there will be no need for a draft

if all the fundies send their kids to die in Bushco's illegal crusades. Are they enlisting?

[Skidmore]

4. Speaking of *, they showed a scene where the narrator stated "and

they worship under a picture of President Bush." And, by God, there he was in a huge cardboard cutout in front of a jumbotron with a picture of a waving flag on it. There is some appropriate about * as a cardboard cutout, but it was really creepy.

[Raksha]

7. That's idolatry.

Of course, they'll SAY they don't actually "worship" either the cutout or the president, but who do they think they're kidding?

[Nomad559]

5. Jesus Camp - Movie Trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RNfL6IVWCE

:puke:

[Jade Fox]

13. Disgusting.....

Fortunately, many of those kids will run screaming from that crap. A former co-worker of mine sent his kid to one of those camps, and last I heard the kid had run away from home.

[Skidmore]

14. You are right about the running away from it. You know when it breaks

down for fundamentalist kids? The first time they start some heavy petting after church in the back seat of a car and it gets intense, and they aren't struck dead on the spot by a thunderbolt from heaven. That's when they realize everything they've been taught to fear in the universe can be questioned.

[msongs]

8. so much for the boycott of ABC/Disney eh? nt

[Skidmore]

10. Well, the one thing my husband won't do

is give up watching news on ABC on Sunday evening. An argument I can't win. So I'm at the 'puter and he's across the room watching the teevee. Kinda hard to turn off my ears. However, I was kind of taken back by the tone that this youth minister took and her fanatic approach to educating children.

[Junkdrawer]

16. I didn't watch the ABC piece...I heard about it on DU n/t

[LiberalArkie]

11. That is pure Anti Christ. That is everything that Jesus was against.

I did not see any of the love, forgiveness, selflessness of what a follower of Jesus is supposed to be..