Sen Chambliss-South Could Have Won Civil War If They'd Had Better Intell

[kpete]

Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) argued last week that the South could have won the Civil War if the Confederates had just had better intelligence. Sources told Roll Call that Chambliss said, “We need better intelligence. If we had better intelligence in the Civil War we’d be quoting Jefferson Davis, not Lincoln.”

http://www.rollcall.com/issues/hoh/
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/18/thinkfast-september-18-2006/

[TheFriedPiper]

1. Just wishful thinking on his part

He was dreaming about getting him some slave-strange.

Fucking redneck.

[tanyev]

2. And why would that have been a good thing, Saxby?

Idjit.

[BlueManDude]

17. I wouldn't have to pay the kid down the block to mow my lawn? n/t

[bryant69]

3. That's a wierd statement

On the face of it it might be true - but using the confederates as the example? It strikes me that some in the Republican Party have concluded that a return to Overt racism won't hurt them.

Bryant
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[tomfodw]

4. Overt racism

On the face of it it might be true - but using the confederates as the example? It strikes me that some in the Republican Party have concluded that a return to Overt racism won't hurt them.


Then it's up to us to prove them wrong. If only the Democratic Party were still alive...

[bryant69]

10. It is still alive

http://www.democrats.org/

Bryant

[converted_democrat]

19. Just that it sounds like he'd rather be quoting Davis is disturbing..

Like he's still not over it yet..

Edited because I'm an idiot..

[Efilroft Sul]

5. What's this "we" shit, Saxby?

You still fighting the Civil War? Your side, or at least the one you favor, lost. Get over it.

From now on, when you use the word "we," you better be talking about EVERYONE in the United States and not some Johnny Reb ancestors.

[Dhalgren]

6. What? Did the South not know that the North could put three

times as many troops into any battle, anywhere, as could the South? Did the South not know that the Northern troops were much better fed, clothed, supplied and serviced than any Southern troops? Did the South not know that the North had a NAVY - I mean a REAL one, not the two tubs and a paddle-wheeler the South had? Did the South not know that the North could produce a hundred times the amount of war materiel as could the South? And (just for humor's sake) what piece, or group of pieces, of intelligence could have secured a Southern victory against their being completely out gunned and out generaled? What an idiot...

[uberblonde]

7. And if pigs had wings....

They could fly!

[mikeytherat]

20. "If a bullfrog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass a-hoppin"

- Old Southern Expression

Since we're talking 'bout ol' Saxby, we might as well use the vernacular.

mikey_the_rat

[acmejack]

8. Proves he has no knowledge of history.

The South had no industrial base, that is what cost them the war. They had to get their ship (Mobile) from England, likewise their rifles. The North had manufacturing capabilities, a fleet and the wherewithal to fight an extended war.

Chambliss is pus. I can't wait to see him exit the Senate, his term is expires in two years doesn't it? Of course with the new improved voting system that may be moot...

[BurtWorm]

9. Why does Saxby Chambliss hate the United States of America?

If "we" had better intelligence?

:eyes:

[Leopolds Ghost]

11. "If WE had better intelligence in the Civil War we'd be quoting Jeff Davis

Note the use of WE.

Note similar accounts of George Allen (especially the "watermelon reference").

Note how Democratic leaders are too unsure of themselves to denounce Confederate revivalism, fearing it will "alienate people for whom the Confederacy is a part of their heritage". Never mind that anyone who understands that the Confederates LOST and DESERVED to lose, will not take offense, even if they are a Southerner.

I have yet to see a single ad on TV denouncing George Allen for his "watermelon reference" ("If it had been a watermelon, such-and-such Redskins player would have caught it.") Why is that?

[Leopolds Ghost]

12. As it is he merely gets the highway in front of the Pentagon named for him

Jefferson Davis must've had pretty good intelligence after all.

Those "bitter enders" were a tenacious bunch of illegal combatants,
seeing as how they kept the South destabilized right thru the 1920s.

[Ishoutandscream2]

13. No chance in hell, Saxby. Read for a change

And no, not some revisionist shit from a right wing shill. All we had was "King Cotton," and one lonely munitions plant. Plus, the South was outnumbered and the blockade was beginning to take its toll. No way in hell the South could win.

[elperromagico]

14. I cannot see any logical way that the Confederates could have won.

Even if they could have, the nation was impoverished. Inflation was rampant, starvation was rampant. The limited resources of the government were being poured into maintaining the war effort. And the same grievance that had helped lead to secession in the first place (resistance to the federal government) was plaguing the Confederate government as well.

The "quotable" Jefferson Davis set a national day of prayer and the governor of Georgia, angered that the federal government was usurping his authority, promptly set a different date. Some states even contemplated seceding from the Confederacy! By the end of the war, even slaves were being drummed into the Confederate military. Slaves fighting to stay slaves? How long could that dichotomy have existed before somebody's head exploded?

I love this brand of revisionism. If one thing had changed, the Confederacy could have won. All of these "what ifs" make a faulty assumption: namely, that the Confederacy was a viable proposition in the first place. It wasn't.

[ProfessorGAC]

15. And A Better Economy, And A More Diverse Industrial Base,. . .

. . .and a more comfortable working class, and the moral high ground, and, and, and, and. . .

What a tool!
The Professor

[yellowcanine]

16. Things would also be different if Strom had won in 1948, eh Saxby?

How Dixiecratic of him.

[DemonFighterLives]

18. His need for intelligence is his problem

dubco and cheney tore down the system in place.
And as far as the civil war is concerned, that was then, this is now.
Get with the times fool, if you had a brain, you'd be dangerous.
:dem:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

21. How is this comment NOT treasonous?

:shrug:

[sarge43]

22. I see even after 145 years, some people still haven't picked

up the clue phone.

Yo Chambliss, the Confederacy was dead meat going in. Better intelligence wasn't the problem, total lack of simple intelligence was.

[indepat]

23. The war may have been lost, but the cause lives on in the hearts of some

[Rosemary2205]

24. Invoking the Civil War -- geez Chambliss is an moran

I'm surprised it didn't call it "the war of northern aggression"