Had it out with a Republican today! Big time!!

[AndyA]

I was in a good mood this morning, on my way to work, when I pulled up behind a mini-van at a stop light. And there it was: the "PROUD TO BE A REPUBLICAN" sticker, prominently plastered on the back window. The light changed, and the mini-van zoomed off. They were going at least 15-20 mph over the speed limit. I told the person riding with me (a Republican), "I guess they're taking a que from their fearless leader. Since he doesn't have to obey the laws of the land, I guess they don't think they have to either."

In no time, the mini-van was almost a half mile ahead of me, and it started out directly in front of me at the light. When I pulled into the parking garage, guess who? Yep, you got it - the mini-van. The asshole driving it was waiting for a parking attendant, and I just couldn't resist.

I got out of my car, and asked the guy what, exactly, was he so proud about. Before he could answer, I said, "...is it the fact that your pResident is torturing fellow mankind, is it the fact that he's responsible for thousands of innocent deaths, is it the fact that he lies to you and to me without hesitation? Are you proud of the fact that the GOP leadership over the past six years has bankrupted the country, squandered the good will other countries used to feel toward us, and have started stripping our civil liberties and rights from us? What, exactly are you proud of?"

I think I must have raised my voice, because the guy was just standing there looking at me with his mouth hanging somewhat open. I said, "Well what is it? What are you proud of?"

Then he said, "Look dude, I know that there are a lot of people upset right now, and obviously you are. But the GOP has traditionally held conservative values, and it's those values I'm proud of. More people should embrace them."

So I said, in a more calm tone, "Even if it means accepting all of the other things as well? How can you condone torturing another human being? Is that an acceptable trade off?"

The guy didn't say anything, and the parking attendant appeared walking up the ramp in the garage. I told the guy, "It's time for you to look at the facts and take that damn sticker off your car. You have no reason to be proud of today's Republican party. You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting them this long."

To which he said, "Hey, I don't necessarily support everything they do."

I replied, "Yes, you do. As long as that sticker is on your car, and as long as you keep voting for them, it's a stamp of approval. And by the way, the speed limit on Riverside is 45, not 60."

I shook my head, gave the guy a disgusted look, and waved to another parking attendant who was coming to get my car, and walked off.

The person with me didn't say a thing during this whole exchange. After we were in the office building, they said I was going to get myself in trouble confronting people that way.

And I told them when the day came that I was no longer free to express my opinion in a civil manner, that was the day America was dead. And that the GOP would be responsible for it.

Perhaps I went too far, but I'm so sick of these people.

[Warpy]

1. You were civil

and told him his support of an anti American party was unacceptable.

Someday, you may run into a Freeper who will try to throw punches at you for saying this stuff.

However, you were exactly right. Somebody has to tell these people that their support of a morally and ethically bankrupt party won't be tolerated.

[calimary]

35. And when those punches get thrown, FINE. SUE the bejeeezuss

out of the freeper for assault, battery, and attempted murder.

As for me, I'm very impressed with this story. ANYONE who publicly professes allegiance to this Satan's party bears the Mark of Cain IMO. And if they're gonna go around wearing it on the back of their cars, they're fair game.

Perhaps this was a rude awakening to the bumper sticker guy - who very likely has been forced to THINK about a few things for the first time ever.

I think MORE of these people ought to be confronted. AND mind you, there are MANY ways to confront. Gently, and not so gently. You never know. You may be facing someone who's NEVER BOTHERED to consider the opposing view, especially the opposing view not filtered through the lies of the limbots and Pox "news." If that's all they listen to, they're NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY experience with the truth. All they'll ever have gotten will be lies, distortion, and spin. All you're really doing by confronting is providing new information.

[BOSSHOG]

2. You DID NOT go too far

If you put a sticker like that on your car then you should be manly enough to defend it if and when confronted. Republican values my ass. Lying, corporate crime, torture, destruction of the constitution, insider trading, drug use, sex with children, spouse abuse, dismantling of the new deal, ruination of our military, intentionally dodging military service, military desertion, absolutely no leadership skills. Stop me when I mention something that "conservatives" can be proud of.

And just how would one get in trouble by "confronting people that way?" Will you be arrested and tortured by the right wing thought police.

Good on Ya teammate.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

3. Great Job!!!! More people need to start taking your attitude. n/t

[zanne]

4. It's hard to keep your composure with a Repub.

I've "blown my top" several times in discussions about politics with Republicans. I always regret getting carried away, even though I believed in what I was saying. Unfortunately, I try to avoid discussions like that now because I think that whoever stays calmest wins. I'm not saying you went berserk or anything and I'm glad you have the energy to go through with it, but these days it's not so much the message but the delivery that works.

[true_notes]

6. Hey, Thomas Paine Went "Too Far" sometimes

And I view him as an integral part of our nation's tradition of outspoken political opinions.

John Adams once wrote about Paine:
"Mr. Paine's writing abiility equates to a carpenter who can destroy a house but lacks the skill of building it back".

We, liberals, have the ability to build this house that the conservatives tore down with a fury, and the foundation starts with people like you educating and informing.

Good on ya!

[nini]

8. Yes.. "..the delivery that works."

that was my point. He could have made more points by starting the conversation off a bit smoother.

[true_notes]

14. I disagree

Because to educate a Republican, you must startle his reptilian mind so you have his or her undivided attention.

Remember, these guys are the tail end of the human evolution chain.

[nini]

42. Well, I disagree with you

Very few people are going to 'listen' when you start off in a threatening manner. If you want to actually show them why their views are wrong and based on BS you want them to be in a state of mind to listen.


True there are some that won't listen no matter what - it's those that are simply uninformed we need to reach - therefore I stick to the attitude to talk to them in a manner in which they will listen. I don't need to get reptilian like them to make my points.

[nini]

5. Turn the table. If a right winger had done that to you.

what would you be saying? That he was an asshole for getting in your face unprovoked?


This guy is obviously clueless but you went at him out of the blue and he had no idea what you were talking about.


Too bad you didn't approach it in a calm manner upfront. You may have gotten your points in his head that way. Now he just thinks you're a nut for going off on him unprovoked and doesn't care what you actually said.


God knows I get disgusted at those idiots when I see their stupid bumper stickers - you're not alone. However, we're not going to educate the lost by starting off that way.

[AndyA]

16. I haven't had any Republicans approach me.

I have a "GOP: Grand Oil Party" sticker on one car, and a "Compared to Bush, Nixon wasn't so bad" sticker on another. I've only had positive comments and actions from them.

But I feel I would be glad to discuss my views with someone if they approached me. Because I feel I'm in the right, and they are very, very wrong. I believe I have facts to back up that belief, and they don't. And they need to know that at this point, because keeping your mouth shut isn't going to help. Look where it's gotten us so far.

I wasn't screaming at the guy, nor did I get in his face. I was standing by the door of my car, and he was standing by his front door. I don't think I came across as threatening, because he didn't act threatened.

Maybe I did go overboard, but you have to make opportunities these days. If you wait for them, they will never come it seems. And at this point, I guess I'm willing to chance being tagged as an asshole because I don't feel we have the luxury of waiting for change to happen. I think we need to make it happen.

[nini]

29. From your OP you kind of wondered if you went overboard yourself

That's why I wondered if you did too.

I am not against conversation at all and encourage debate - we have to educate those who are on the fence.. I am against the in your face attacks that our opponents think is the only way to have dialog anymore - we're not going to win anyone over doing what those idiots do.

Does this mean we don't speak up - absolutely not. We need to, but we also need to do it in a manner where they actually 'hear' what we have to say. That's all.

[calimary]

45. I'm with you. Besides, many of the complaints that come at our side

are the kind that put us down for being too nice, too peaceable, too wishy-washy, too push-over. They sneer at us because we'd rather make love than war, to use the old cliche. People want fire in the belly, they want people who will stand up and stand for something, and they tend to admire those who are forceful and take no prisoners. Which is one of the reasons why you see bush now popping off and getting agitated and "forceful." For some reason, a lot of those we need to reach admire that as being strong and forthright and ballsy. My best friend (other than in regard to politics) admires bush because - as she put it - "he had balls." Whether he was correct or totally, horribly wrong made no difference to her. It was his so-called "balls" she admired. I've heard other republi-CON operatives boast that they appeal to voters "because we fight." And when it's a fight, for them, it's not won on points or finesse. It's won by bloodying the opponent, and stomping them into the canvass. Anything less is perceived - PLEASE NOTE this all-important concept: PERCEIVED - as weakness. They think we're wusses and not willing to fight. And if you'll recall, the main sticking point that bush senior was saddled with (and that, I've read in many places, little bush was so adamant about avoiding) was the "wimp" factor. That's why taking the high road doesn't work in this game anymore, either. It's PERCEIVED as being weak.

These people seem to want a fight. So let's GIVE IT TO 'EM. Especially when they're at a disadvantage. They're pre-conditioned not to expect to have to fight back against us "wussy" liberals. And they don't expect it when we start hitting back. Which is a MOST advantageous thing.

The original post here by AndyA showed NO weakness. And I'll bet he got the guy's respect - begrudging as it may have been. Besides, AndyA may just have forced this guy to pause a moment and really THINK about it for what's probably the first time. With a lot of these folks, voting republi-CON is simply habit. So ingrained over so many years ("I've been a lifelong republi-CON, but...") that they don't even think about it anymore. It's just part of their nature. Sometimes they have to be shaken awake, or shaken out of their reverie. Out of their complacency. Like planting a wee little bitty something under their skin that makes them start scratching unconsciously. Sometimes the only way I can get my son up in the morning is by being REALLY loud. Soft and gentle doesn't do it. You've gotta get their attention.

[liberaldemocrat7]

50. I have "Mean abusive people vote Republican" on my electric motorccyle.

Some idiot proved it by writing "F you" on the sticker hehehe.

[A wise Man]

18. I use to tell my Mom

that these people are in comparision to "Children of the Damn". We woke up one morning to discover we've been invaded by moronic aliens. No true human beings thought process think the way these republican morons think.

[Gregorian]

24. Democrats appear to be the party of battered housewives.

I agree with your post. Colbert is getting people to think because he approaches them with his super secret tactfulness.

I'm so timid I would never think of putting a bumpersticker on a car. And I never cause confrontation.

I think we expected people to be civil. And we waited and waited. And at this point, even the timid are speaking up.

I just wonder how we break out of this marriage. He's beating us, and we just realized it. The big difference is, in a way we can't leave. We're stuck with these pinheads.


Having an actual media might be a good place to start.

[nini]

30. You hit the nail on the head with the colbert statement

We have to speak up - it's the method that will get their attention and make them 'think'.

[calimary]

46. Well, there's always "The Burning Bed" treatment...

In a figurative sense, of course. Certainly restarted Farrah Fawcett's career - AND gained her new respect.

[liam_laddie]

7. AndyA - you're exactly on target!

:toast:
It's time to go past "civil." If the van driver doesn't know what "his party" stands for these
days, he's not an informed citizen; you did your patriotic duty. Maybe eejits like him should
have their right to cast a vote questioned...
I'm waaaay past being civll to anyone from the dark side; their vote (the legal ones) is what
has caused the current disaster in which the US finds herself. Fuck them ALL!
And fuck the corporations/companies; your rider ("they?") demonstrate the sheeple behavior
so prevalent among the dark siders. It wasn't confrontation; it was spirited political discourse.

[DeeDeeNY]

9. You did not go too far!

You had an opportunity and you seized it, and maybe you created more of a doubt in this guy's mind.
His logic is totally twisted and his head is in the sand. Maybe you awakened some brain cells in him.

Too many people treat their allegiance to a political party similar to being a fan of a sports team -- once
you're tied to them, you root for them no matter what. That seems the only way to explain the convoluted
reasoning that is used to defend this criminal administration by otherwise seemingly rational people.

[TheFriedPiper]

10. Usually, it's the right wingers driving slowly

Especially when they see it as an opportunity to slow someone else down. It's a power thing.

It's also a product of people's belief that their driving skills are what everyone else should be limited to.

Authoritarian republicans love speed limits and anything else that keeps intellectuals from having an advantage over the lowest common denominator.

Kudos on the rant to him, but the speed limit thing is silly.

[AndyA]

19. Yeah, speeding is a pet peeve of mine.

I lost a friend in a car accident years ago because of a speeder. The speeder was in a hurry because she was late for a hair appointment. No joke. Of course, she never made it to her destination because she went to the emergency room instead.

My friend went to the Coroner.

Speed kills.

If the guy hadn't been speeding, I might have been easier on him, but that was the straw that broke the Camel's back, so to speak. And having him a captive audience waiting for a parking attendant was an opportunity I just couldn't pass up.

[TheFriedPiper]

31. It wasn't the speeding, it was the incompetence that killed your friend

But I admire you going after this guy for the sticker.


Remember, not everyone's driving skills require them to drive slowly to be safe and some people are not safe at ANY speed.

The most important thing to remember is: LET THEM (ME) PASS.

:)

[mnhtnbb]

11. These knee-jerk Republicans want a gold star for supporting Bush

Good for you for getting on his case!

[havocmom]

12. Ya did great! Time they find out, first-hand, that the liberals = whimps

thing they have heard for 25 years on radio and TV is dead solid wrong.

Might help some of them start to wonder what other myths they were told are wrong. ;)

[Straight Shooter]

13. Another note of caution, please, upon reading bumper stickers.

Sometimes people are not driving their own cars. A friend of mine has a controversial bumper sticker on his car ("Thank you for not breeding"). I wouldn't want some woman with 5 kids to walk up to me and give me hell because she thinks that I think people shouldn't have kids.

Another thing you might try is asking if you can discuss the bumper sticker with the person, instead of throwing someone completely offguard by launching into a confrontational situation. If they don't want to talk about it, fine. If they're willing to discuss it, then you're already ahead of the game.

JMHO, YMMV.

[TheFriedPiper]

15. nah, if it wasn't HIS car, he would then be inpired to go tell what

that 'damned republican bumper sticker of yours' caused him.

I think we should challenge stupidity at every possible opportunity.

[Celebration]

17. be careful

When you confront someone in their car about ANYTHING, you are taking a risk, IMHO. This guy handled it okay, but the next one might not. It doesn't take much to provoke some people, and people have been injured or worse from doing that. This is the case even if you are civil..................

[AndyA]

22. He wasn't in his car, he was standing outside the car with keys in hand.

I would never confront someone while driving their vehicle, because road rage is so common these days. But the guy had no place to go, he couldn't back up, and everything ahead of him was reserved parking by attendant only, so all he could really do is stand there.

But I get your message.

[Mad_Dem_X]

20. You handled that very well

Good job!

[blm]

21. He should try telling the NEW Republican party to act like the TRADITIONAL

Republican party and start caring about the constitution and fair play.

You handled it pretty cool - I get too hot and sarcastic in situations like that.

[IntravenousDemilo]

23. A lot of them are shitheels, but really...

...you were the aggressor here and thus way out of line. He was minding his own business committing a traffic violation. And even though he was advertising his opinion through a bumper sticker, you responded out of kind by confronting him the way you did.

Stories abound of, for instance, Motorhead fans getting shirty with people who have "Metal Sucks" bumper stickers on their cars, as if it's any affair of theirs. I wonder how many other examples we can extrapolate here -- perhaps on some Freeper-type board there's a similar post to yours that says "Had it out with a Democrat (or better yet, a Muslim) today! Big time!!" etc etc.

If individual citizens can't get by without truculently meddling in some other unsuspecting citizen's business with some sort of pre-emptive attack, then perhaps that collectively explains the country's impulse towards pre-emptive attacks on other countries.

Anyway, if GOP guy continues to drive 60 in a 45 zone, he'll soon get his comeuppance, and it won't be from you. And you just cemented his Republican vote, which I'm sure wasn't your intention.

[AndyA]

25. Maybe you're right.

He'll probably never get caught speeding, we don't have enough cops on the road to do that. Budget cuts, don't ya know.

I do hope you're wrong about the vote, we sure need all of them that we can get, but with electronic voting, I'm not sure that we aren't doomed anyway. But we've got to keep fighting, the price is just too high to quit now.

[IntravenousDemilo]

27. And maybe I'm just being stereotypically Canadian.

To us less individualistic Canucks, Americans seem to be very (some may say excessively) sure of, and in love with, their opinions, right or wrong. It's something we've noticed with dismay over here on the outside looking in.

It would be nice for you to pre-emptively apologize for your illiberal approach if you ever see him again (not for your viewpoint, though; you were right about that, so stand firm). Show him -- but for god's sake don't tell him, or he'll think you're talking down to him -- how being a liberal also includes maturity and the ability to admit mistakes (take that, George "I-can't-think-of-a-mistake-I've-made" Bush), and you might even win him over to the notion that the GOP isn't the only, or even the best, repository of values.

[femrap]

26. You gave the repug the facts!

No way did you go too far. No way.

[NoSheep]

28. Excellent job. Thank you for speaking up. We ALL need to do this.

:bounce:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

32. "the GOP has held conservative values, it's those values I'm proud of"

"Not any more honey - haven't you been paying attention?" What a freakin' moran.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

33. To All These "Nice" Democrats Out There.....

Yeah, he should have ignored the guy. And if you were going to approach the man, you should have been cordial and polite, and told him in pleasant terms how mistaken he was, and explained to him the various complaints you had about the repubs.

Because after all, us Democrats are nothing if not polite and reasoning individuals. I'm confident that your repub friend would have listened to and understood your opinions, and rethought his positions and political leanings, all in the course of a few minutes. If it's one thing repubs are capable of, it's understanding logic and reason.

:sarcasm:

When are some of you people going to understand that the repubs do not operate that way? When are you going to realize that we have to ATTACK them and return their fire and then some. Being the Wimpy Wimp Dems is getting us NOWHERE.

I assure you, repubs do not act "nice." They have no problem with putting "Proud To Be repub." stickers on their SUV's, driving their Tanks 25 MPH over the speed limit just because they think it's their right, and so they can save a couple of seconds in their busy day.

I'm tired of hearing our side play "nice." The time for "nice" is well past.

[TheFriedPiper]

37. Better they drive 25+, but they usually drive 10-

They only seem to speed up when it means they can block someone else.

It's a power trip. They have tiny lives which is why they get the giant truck, then they drive it slow because they want to be in people's way. It makes them think they have control over something.

[calimary]

47. Hear, hear! Taste of their own medicine. See how they like it.

If nothing else, some of 'em may get shaken awake, like having a bucket of ice water thrown on 'em for sleeping too late and screwing up on people who were depending on them.

And also, it clearly telegraphs that you're no pushover as they've been taught to assume about us "wimpy, wussy, whining liberal hand-wringers."

The high road takes you straight over a cliff. I think we've tried it too many times, and found it a loser, to want to stick with it. What's that saying about insanity? It's doing the same thing over and over and over and over again, expecting different results. I've had it up to here with the results we've been getting. They only respect take-no-prisoners behavior. Besides, since it's speaking their language, it MAY help them open their eyes and understand.

[AspenRose]

34. Since we have concealed carry laws in my state, I wouldn't have done that

personally, out of fear of getting my head blown off....

but I'm proud of you and everything you said was true.

[AndyA]

40. We have concealed carry here as well.

Perhaps I was wrong to say what I did, but there's just no excuse for the stupidity of these people. And if they don't support the GOP any longer, for goodness sake scrape that friggin' sticker off your car, already!

I honestly didn't think about the possibility that he could have a gun, and I guess I should have. I will going forward. Thanks for the heads up! :)

[file83]

63. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself...

So fear keeps you locked down? Score one for the fascists...

[libhill]

36. More power to ya

if ou think that repuke asshats don't sound off like that, then think again :)

[blue cat]

38. I applaud you

for discussing it with him.

[EnviroBat]

39. Good job...

Many of these blind sheep need a serious wake-up call. Around here, any time you see a bumper sticker like that, the person driving has some smug-ass look on their face and act like they're 10 ft tall and bulletproof. Meanwhile their principals are jeopardizing all of us. Stupid Asses...

[AndyA]

41. I repeated this story to a friend, and he told me that he'd done the same

thing just last week! Some guy cut him off going into a parking lot, and stuck on the back window of the car was a "W '04" sticker. My friend said he parked nearby, and struck up a conversation with the driver as they were walking toward the mall by telling the guy that his signal wasn't working (a hint that he hadn't used it when he cut in front). When asked if he still supported Bush, the guy got red faced and said, "HELL NO! I've gotta scrape that stupid sticker off my car. I keep forgetting to do it - I'm a Democrat now!"

So, one by one, the apples are surely falling off the tree! :)

[B Calm]

43. GOP has traditionally held conservative values, what a joke!!!!!

Borrow and spend sob's

[Oeditpus Rex]

44. You initiated a confrontation with a citizen

who was minding his own business.

[liberalla]

48. I hope he thinks about what you said.

The thing I try to point out to old school Repugs...

You can't be FOR conservative values and FOR bush.
They're opposing values.

[BlueEyedSon]

49. Fuck 'em. Supporting the GOP these days is tantamount to treason.

[Stand and Fight]

51. You have got it exactly right...

We, Democrats, need to realize that we will continue to lose to the Republicans if we always try to take the so-called "moral high ground." Doesn't anyone remember the old adage, "Nice guys finish last"? ONE of the reasons that Republicans continue to gain ground and beat us is because they see politics as war, and, God help us, we see it as gosh-dammed nuanced debate. While I don't necessarily believe that it was the best way to go about dealing with this yahoo, I do not believe that he would respond to anything else -- what with his PRIDE in being a Republican. A party rife with corruption and a cesspool of baser human weaknesses. We've got to hit them hard. Hit them where it hurts. Pound the living shit out of them until they wake the hell up -- not just the politicos, but the little guys too because they're the enablers of this shit-storm. Enough is enough. Take no prisoners. Show absolutely no mercy. That's the way they play the game, and we'd better follow suite less we be swept aside.

ON EDIT -- Recommended!

[lonestarnot]

52. Damn two in less than 1 week! Yeah! You and the monkeyman! Woodamnwhoo!

Good on you AndyA. Just be careful. Those people are nuts!

[kerry-is-my-prez]

53. There's a lot more out there too. I go off on at least 2 or 3 a week.

I only post it when I have an especially good one.

I go off on at least one Repub. every weekend at my pool.

[lonestarnot]

54. You too kerry-is-my-prez. Choose your battles carefully, unless you're

like me. LOL I get into some doozies I tell ya. :rofl:

[lildreamer316]

55. Kick ass.

Way to go. You make me proud to internet-message-form know you. Thanks!

[dicknbush]

56. Actually this is what we have to do day after day from now until ....

The Election. I am in a solid blue state so not much to do here. If I didn't have kids and all that entails I would be in the closely contested districts walking the streets and telling the folks there that they need to wake up. We shall see.

[texpatriot2004]

57. Wow I love your final statement about the GOP being

responsible for the death of America on the day that you can no longer express your opinion in a civil manner.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

58. It must have been the air today . . .

I had a confrontation with an ignorant republican today as well. My brother and I meet quite often at a coffee bar before going to work. The usuals were there sitting nearby. One guy who was pro bush prior to and after the election due to the religious crap his minister fed him. He has since opened his eyes thanks to alot of discussions with us. The other guy present was a hard nosed bush man. He said that we were wrong for wanting the torture stopped, that we should torture them all. Needless to say the conversation volume was turned up a notch when I asked, "WHAT WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT FOR?" Of course his imbecile answer was because they flew the planes into the towers and killed 3,000 of our people. I said, "Who did?" His reply of course, was "Saddam" I said "OH NO HE DIDN'T, he didn't have a thing to do with it and YOUR PREZ even admitted it two weeks ago on national TV!" His reply, "He is out to kill me and my family" I said "WHO IS?" he said, "Saddam, I heard him say it on tv" I said, "No, you heard your president say that - Saddam did not say that" About this time the cafe workers looked at us like they were ready to hit the panic alarm. I was shaking, not from being afraid of the confrontation but afraid that I may lose control and punch this idiot right into his hard nose. I do not lose control easily though. He ended up dropping the conversation and things returned to normal although somewhat strained.

I will confront every one of them that I catch spewing lies each time they tell them.

Kudos to you AndyA for doing the same. We all need to take a stand - we all need to demand the truth, if we cannot get it from our government, then lets get it from the people governed.

[threadkillaz]

59. Stick it in their face. Again and again.

nt

[NuttyFluffers]

60. a stiletto to the eye follwed by rubbing in salt is too far.

this is wholly benign to me. kudos to you.

[Downtown Hound]

61. Good on you

Sorry, but I don't believe the way to deal with today's Republicans is to be civil. They threw civility out the window with their witch hunt of Clinton, theft of two elections, and illegal war and green light to torture. They are a party of bullies, and the way I was always taught to deal with a bully is to stand up to them face to face. You may go home with a bloody nose, but after that, 99 times out of a hundred, they will leave you alone. Talking calmly to a bully only encourages them. They view it as weakness.

[fudge stripe cookays]

74. Bingo.

Well said.

[file83]

62. GRASS ROOTS Vs. JACK BOOTS!!!

...and the winner is....GRASS ROOTS!!!

[samsingh]

64. he seemed embarrassed to be a repug. still you need to

be careful. he could have been a crackpot with a gun .

[proud patriot]

65. Way to Go

I confront people all the time like that .

[jdadd]

66. This has worked for me

I copied this off a post here. I have copies printed and keep them in my car, and have left them under the wipers of many cars in my area.

An Open Letter to Those With the “W” Stickers
Isn’t it time?

There comes a point where things are all too clear. That time came and went long ago, but as I write this, the obviousness is even clearer. Nonetheless, you still have the yellowed, tattered “W” sticker on your back windshield. So now, be true to yourself. Be true to your children or the children of your friends and family. Be true to your country. Isn’t it time?

Scraping and peeling that sticker shouldn’t be too hard. A razor blade and perhaps some nail polish remover will remove all traces of it. There’s no shame in making a mistake, as long as you can take the steps to rectify it. Isn’t it time?

It’s somewhat understood why you left it on your vehicle so long. It’s no different from a diehard fan that unabashedly supports the team even after being repeatedly and continually disappointed and embarrassed. Admittedly, there is some level of respectability in that. There’s something to be said for standing by your team through thick and thin, but this is different. You’re not rooting for a hometown team. You’re not rooting for bragging rights. Considering what’s at stake, isn’t it time?

And again, using the sports analogy, it’s understandably hard to admit when you’re wrong. It’s hard to secede. In many contexts, you might be taunted or derided for supporting the obviously wrong choice as long as you did. Not here. Not now. It’s too important for pettiness. Although good sportsmanship may not be what you’re used to or what you’d expect, that’s what you’ll find. This is no sport.

There’s no need for a grand ceremony about it. Do it in your garage with door closed. Do it after dark at the car wash if you must. I’ll even help you, and not say a word as I do it. Isn’t it time?

And no, no one really cares if you want to leave your sticker on your vehicle. No one is threatened by it, nor is anyone convinced or influenced by it at this point. Leave it if you must, but at least be aware that it really says more about you than it does anything else. For your sake, if for nothing else, isn’t it time?

It would be too easy to list the reasons why it’s time. The reasons are obvious. If you’re not aware of the reasons by now, perhaps you never will be. Someday your vehicle will be in a scrapyard, the “W” barely visible. Those who see it will never understand how anyone would put such a thing on their car.

It’s time. Don’t cower any more. Don’t be weak. Don’t be ignorant to your situation and the situation of those around you. And when your pride consumes you, think of the future.

Obviously, this isn’t about a piece of sticky-sided vinyl. It’s about what’s right. It’s about what you stand for, what you believe in, and what you should not, cannot, and will not tolerate.

It is time.

[Warren DeMontague]

67. Sounds like he's catching a lot of crap for that sticker-not just from you

Every once in a while I still see a Bush or Pro-Republican sticker around here, but I think by now most of them have been peeled off in embarassment.

[StrictlyRockers]

68. It is well past time for more of us to take this tone.

We can not sit idly by while our countrymen advocate torture and work to pass laws legalizing it.

I am VERY glad you did this. More of us need to! Question these morans on how they can justify supporting the most corrupt administration in history. The Republicans should be banned from office for the next 30 years for their crimes against humanity and for massive corruption.

Please, everyone, don't hesitate to call the Repukes on their bullshit at every opportunity you have! We need to turn this country around before something even worse happens.

SR

[donheld]

69. Andy

:yourock:

[BlueJac]

70. Hang it on them.....

Lots of those fools are just followers and have no mind of their own. Good for you.

[NotGivingUp]

71. that was so wonderful!!! if more of us would do things like that, we'd get

a lot more people to just simply THINK! after that it's a no-brainer to vote against the republican party.

[tblue]

72. I left a note on someone's car

The car had a sticker that said 'I'm Proud George Bush is my President.' I almost threw up. So I left a note saying 'You should be ashamed.' I could've said much more.

I say hell yeah, let's put them on the defensive!

James Carville had a great idea. When you're driving around and see someone with a Bush, etc. sticker on their car, roll down your window and yell, 'Hey! Somebody put a Bush sticker on your car!'

I also think we should print 'Another Moron For' stickers and slap them over Bush, etc. stickers. Let them drive around with that on. LOL!

I'm sorry. They deserve it. It's not just Bush and the Republicans in Congress, it's also the people who vote for them who I blame for this mess we're in.

[AndyA]

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