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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:34 AM
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Navy Told To Be Ready to Deploy to Blockade Iran by 10-1
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 11:38 AM by leftyladyfrommo
Michael Duffy Time Magazine 9-17

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1535817,00.html

Someone may have already seen this - if so, I'm sorry.

To me this is huge.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:35 AM
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1. Sounds like a fictionalized "what if" account.
Anyone have the full text?
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:36 AM
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2. Is there anyway to get into Time.
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 11:42 AM by leftyladyfrommo
Michael Duffy is a very credible reporter. He is assistant managing editor over there.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:38 AM
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4. Without paying, probably not. eom
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 01:24 PM
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32. For this article, at least
you do like you do in Salon, click on to see a commercial, then that lets you read the whole thing.
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douglas9 Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:50 PM
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30. Full Text
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:38 AM
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3. Just wondering if the Republican leadership thinks that Iran
has no allies....mmm Russia and China....

This is going to end badly......
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:39 AM
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5. This whole Iran things scares me to death.
This adm. is just crazy enough to do something really stupid. And this run up to Iran sounds just like the one before Iraq.

I think this country will just go crazy if they move on Iran.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:40 AM
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7. Maybe I should have put this over on Discussion - I don't think its
really "breaking"
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:23 PM
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27. Doch, the Iranian Bourse
is about to go on-line.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:41 AM
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8. Like many here....I have been saying where are Repugs going
to get the boots to hit the ground....they will have to have a "Draft", it is coming.....and then we will see riots in the streets because not only will men from 18-42 be drafted but so will women from 18-42..
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:43 AM
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9. More like everyone up to 65.
Did you see the woman who was killed last week - she was 52.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:48 AM
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12. Yes....another tradgedy....that didn't have to happen....
does this administration even acknowledge the death? No because our soldiars are disposable to them....`

I can say I truely understand the upheaval in the late 60's and 70's over the Vietnam war....the only difference is that we the people support our troops and want to get them the hell out of there...
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:53 AM
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15. I think this country will just go crazy if they move on Iran.
Yeah, we might have to do something if things start to get out of hand like that. Like say oh maybe martial law. And just in time for the elections too, how convenient.
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:39 AM
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6. did someone say Wag the Dog War?
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 11:40 AM by whirlygigspin
ah, election season, nothing like a good war to make people forget your an incompetent profiteer.
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wagthedogwar Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:20 PM
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25. ah yes, I say that in every post!
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 12:28 PM by wagthedogwar
Wars to win elections, a fine ole traddition

You put your Navy in
you take your Army out
you put your Air Force in
and ya bomb 'em all about
You scream out holy moly! there are loose nukes all around!
and that's how a loser wins.

You put Santorum in
You take Paul Wellstone out
You put Delay then in
to antrax lefties in the House
You broadcast more Osama
Pigman, Coulter scream and shout
and that's how it came about.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:43 AM
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10. October Surprise here we come.
That bastard will start another war to save his own ass. Because if he doesn't, very little stands between him and IMPEACHMENT hearings in the House of Reps.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:50 AM
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13. This is my guess - they start another war and they will be
impeached.

I don't think people in this country will tolerate another war.
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Citizen Kang Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:48 AM
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11. most likely scenerio
We blockade Iran's ports and in desperation they fire a few anti-ship Sunburn missiles (purchased from Russia). A couple of our ships are hit and we have a reason to escalate the war. Bush and GOP popularity goes high to rally around the flag in early November and the GOP stays in charge to send us into another quagmire.

This is the October surprise...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:50 AM
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14. A naval blockade is an act of war
They're hoping to provoke Iran into striking back so they can convince fear driven morons to rally 'round the flag and the fuckwit wrapped in it once again.

I hate this.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:55 AM
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16. Amerikans would not dare jump political ship with three wars raging
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:57 AM
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17. Wrong. I think they will not just jump - but leap.
But that is just my best guess at this point. We can't take on the entire Middle East.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:12 PM
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19. We already have in many ways, but fear not: Diebold-type machines will
keep us free, free of interference from the other side of the aisle as the PNAC agenda is being further implemented.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:12 PM
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18. Do they do NOTHING for anything other than political reasons?
The Republican October surprise.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:16 PM
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21. I don't know. They seem to have this really warped idea of what
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 12:18 PM by leftyladyfrommo
their purpose is? Make the whole world democratic! Its almost a messianic thing - crazy and extremely dangerous - but I think it may actually be how Bush feels about himself and his place in the world.

Scary stuff we are dealing with here. They really could get us into another World War.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:09 PM
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34. When Republicans say "democratic" what they mean is pro-big buisness. nt
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:15 PM
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20. Goodbye Cheap Gas
Hello $6 a gallon heating oil.

October Surprise indeed...
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:17 PM
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22. Oh shoot. You are right about that. n/t
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:18 PM
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23. They are still trying to make up for their bruised egos in 1979
It is a honor thing above all else, with the second thing being easy money to be made by having full control of Iran's oil and natural gas deposits.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:20 PM
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26. Funny you should say that. That is one of the major reasons Germany
got back into WWII - bruised egos from the first world war - and a deep need to reassert their national pride.

Didn't work for them and won't work for these guys.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:19 PM
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24. Here's the OCTOBER SURPRISE!!!
War with Iran. Now Rove is certainly overreaching...
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:28 PM
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28. The majority of the people are sick of Iraq and Afganistan and
say that the costs in blood and money have not been worth it.

That makes is almost a damn certainty the maniacs in the bush** admin will do it.

But I think it'll happen after the elections.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 12:44 PM
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29. This is simply a "what if" scenario, and...
not an actual directive.

I assume everyone realizes that a war with, or even a blockade of, Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz, and bottles up every drop of Middle East oil not going through a pipeline.

Think of gas prices then.

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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 01:00 PM
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31. In the Navy!
You can sail the 7 Seas!
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 01:26 PM
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33. Like when your gun goes off as you are pulling it of your waistband...
Ouch. No more family jewels to wave around.

(I'm talking about the U.S., not Iran.)
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 02:17 PM
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35. Anyone feeling a DRAFT?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 04:13 PM
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36. My question is "How will Iran and the world respond to a blockade?"
At this point a naval blockade seems obviously in the works. I expect a blockade of aviation as well.

Both will test the territorial control of the Iranians and very likely be structured to provoke open hostility by creating a climate in which the US can claim honestly or not that it's been fired on.

The world should very well see this gambit on the chessboard of the Great Game. But will they be able to prevent it's implimentation?
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