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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 03:37 PM
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Turn your eyes to Pakistan...
Great diary, interesting research via Dailykos.


The REAL Reason for Secret Tribunals? Pakistan Terrorism Timeline
by LondonYank

Mon Sep 18, 2006 at 05:25:48 AM PDT

The Bush administration is determined to overturn established law and the Geneva Conventions when it comes to detainees in its gulags. I believe the reason is that virtually all the detainees and the evidence would point to Pakistan as the nexus for training, supply and financing of international terror.

Before 9-11 Pakistan was regarded as hostile to the USA and complicit in international terrorism against the USA. The terrorist training camps funded by the CIA and Saudis and run by Pakistan's ISI to resist the Soviets in Afghanistan had morphed into the world's leading terrorism resource.

Since 9-11 Pakistan has been embraced by the Bush administration as an ally and received billions of dollars of grants, loans and weaponry. Given that Pakistan is linked to ALL major terrorism attacks before 9-11, on 9-11 and since 9-11, you have to wonder whose side they are on.

The reason for secret trials and secret evidence may be the risk in open court that we would find out. We need a transparent judicial process if we are to discover the truth.


Timeline, research w/ links and a request for research help at link.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/18/82548/4524
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 04:36 PM
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1. Makes a convincing case that these may be Bush's friends, but not ours.
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 04:37 PM by leveymg
In return for attacking the Russians, the Reagan-Bush crew basically told Pakistan's military that they could have nuclear weapons and that we would sell them the technology and delivery systems. Successive GOP Administrations and figures have profited handsomely from that deal.

Along with the Saudis, you'll find the Pakistanis in every corrupt international banking scandal and terrorist finance ring. BCCI was started by a Pakistani banker with ties to multiple intelligence agencies.

Pakistan is the home of the Khan network that was the center of global nuclear proliferation and has an overlapping money trail that links to al-Qaeda, the Saudis, and the Gulf States. See, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/20/14939/6889 The corrupt politics and money aspect of this also reaches into the GOP, going back to the establishment of BCCI. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/17/122311/72

The 9/11 Commission indeed took a dive on the Pakistan connection. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x657798

Pakistani nuclear proliferation and terrorism ties were also an underlying factor in the Plame case. See, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/15/104441/649

In response, Pakistanis have done us far more harm over the years than the Iranians and Iraqis, put together. But, they have little oil or anything else we want, other than strategic geographic location, a military with a taste for absolute power and expensive American hardware, and a lot of poor, desperate people. In short, this is the kind of country that Republicans like to do business with.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:27 AM
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10. Great Links.
Thanks.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 04:41 PM
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2. "Before 9-11 Pakistan was regarded as hostile to the USA"
I'd say. The house of Saud and al-Qaeda funded money through them.

The fact that they are being rewarded now really is no suprise, because the Bush Crime Family rewards for loyalty.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 04:44 PM
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3. Bush family has been in the business of terrorism for DECADES.
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 04:48 PM
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4. Some of us called this when Nawaz Sharif was overthrown by
pro-Taliban Musharraf...before 9/11.

Of course, we were, and remain "fools" to the likes of Daniel Pipes, and Martin Kramer....
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 05:16 PM
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5. I know - in 2000 candidate Bush praised Musharraf as someone who would
do good things for the region.

The corpmedia completely MISSED that the guy Bush was praising took power in a military coup and put a stop to the 2yr joint efforts of Sharif and Bill Clinton to track and eliminate Bin Laden.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 06:16 AM
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6. But, candidate * was too stupid to remember Gen. Parviz Musharraf's name
Informed Comment
George W. Bush is enduring sharp criticism for being unable to name the leaders ... him stuttering about "the General," unable to remember Musharraf's name. ...

http://www.juancole.com/2004/07/bush-says-edwards-lacks-experience.html

He probably couldn't find Pakistan on the map, or tell you which branch of Islam predominates in that country. Truly, a useful idiot.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 07:26 AM
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7. I'm sure he heard exactly how Musharraf would be leading the coup against
the president of Pakistan who was working with Clinton to get Bin Laden.

The idiot just couldn't remember the general's name. But, he knew WHY his daddy arranged for the General to proceed with a coup. Must protect their valuable Bin Laden connection.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:12 AM
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8. Hersh 's Pakistan political/nuclear program article is useful, but
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 08:40 AM by leveymg
omits to mention how the Musharraf coup was part and parcel of a larger BushCo alliance with the Pakistani military/ISI and its entrepreneurial wing that included A.Q. Khan and the BCCI bankers.

It served several agendas. We all know that the Pakistani Generals were interested in acquiring a nuclear arsenal and advanced weapons to rival India's much larger military, and that the Reagan-Bush and Bush-Cheney Administrations have been willing to accomodate them. But, to finance this, Pakistan needed capital that wasn't available from the very uncompetitive and inefficient domestic economy. The Gulf bankers and Saudis needed a way to launder funds for their own intriques, along with a manpower pool and blackmarket weapons inventory. Certain western intelligence operators and corrupt bankers recognized the usefulness of these others. It has been an alliance of mutual convenience and loathing.

As we learned from the investigations of Iran-Contra and BCCI, BushCo and the rogue CIA saw this black banking and arms network as a means of running their own programs separate from the oversight of Langley and the Democratic Congress and the Clinton Administration. The Mujahaddin veterans who had served in Afghanistan with bin Laden's MEK were a ready force for covert operations, assassinations, and terrorism. By the late 1990s, plans were crystallizing to destabilize the regimes controlling major oil production regions. The PNAC and A Clean Break agendas of the neocons were part of this, but the actual operational plans that were to lead to 9/11 and the Iraq Occupation were cooked up by political intelligence service operators in several countries. Simultanously, we saw the establishment of powerful merchant banking firms, such as Carlyle, and privatized defense contractors -- well connected with intel agencies and ruling western political parties -- positioned to clean up financially in the inevitable wars that were to follow the GOP power grab in 2000.

Even after 9/11, this network is all still intact, and in some ways stronger than ever. One should not be surprised that the Pakistanis are cooperating only partially with the "straight" counter-terrorism community, as they are actually in the pay of the Right-wing "rogue" operators, most notably GHW Bush and Co. Hersh and others have made reference to parts of this network, but Joe Trento may be the only major, mainstream writer to have put the pieces together. If you haven't done so, read his Secret History of the CIA and Prelude to Terror.

Anyway, here's the beginning of Hersh's article: http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/040308fa_fact

THE DEAL
Why is Washington going easy on Pakistan’s nuclear black marketers?
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
Issue of 2004-03-08
Posted 2004-03-01


On February 4th, Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, who is revered in Pakistan as the father of the country’s nuclear bomb, appeared on a state-run television network in Islamabad and confessed that he had been solely responsible for operating an international black market in nuclear-weapons materials. His confession was accepted by a stony-faced Pervez Musharraf, Pakistan’s President, who is a former Army general, and who dressed for the occasion in commando fatigues. The next day, on television again, Musharraf, who claimed to be shocked by Khan’s misdeeds, nonetheless pardoned him, citing his service to Pakistan (he called Khan “my hero”). Musharraf told the Times that he had received a specific accounting of Khan’s activities in Iran, North Korea, and Malaysia from the United States only last October. “If they knew earlier, they should have told us,” he said. “Maybe a lot of things would not have happened.”

It was a make-believe performance in a make-believe capital. In interviews last month in Islamabad, a planned city built four decades ago, politicians, diplomats, and nuclear experts dismissed the Khan confession and the Musharraf pardon with expressions of scorn and disbelief. For two decades, journalists and American and European intelligence agencies have linked Khan and the Pakistani intelligence service, the I.S.I. (Inter-Service Intelligence), to nuclear-technology transfers, and it was hard to credit the idea that the government Khan served had been oblivious. “It is state propaganda,” Samina Ahmed, the director of the Islamabad office of the International Crisis Group, a nongovernmental organization that studies conflict resolution, told me. “The deal is that Khan doesn’t tell what he knows. Everybody is lying. The tragedy of this whole affair is that it doesn’t serve anybody’s needs.” Mushahid Hussain Sayed, who is a member of the Pakistani senate, said with a laugh, “America needed an offering to the gods—blood on the floor. Musharraf told A.Q., ‘Bend over for a spanking.’ ”

A Bush Administration intelligence officer with years of experience in nonproliferation issues told me last month, “One thing we do know is that this was not a rogue operation. Suppose Edward Teller had suddenly decided to spread nuclear technology and equipment around the world. Do you really think he could do that without the government knowing? How do you get missiles from North Korea to Pakistan? Do you think A.Q. shipped all the centrifuges by Federal Express? The military has to be involved, at high levels.” The intelligence officer went on, “We had every opportunity to put a stop to the A. Q. Khan network fifteen years ago. Some of those involved today in the smuggling are the children of those we knew about in the eighties. It’s the second generation now.”

In public, the Bush Administration accepted the pardon at face value. Within hours of Musharraf’s television appearance, Richard Armitage, the Deputy Secretary of State, praised him as “the right man at the right time.” Armitage added that Pakistan had been “very forthright in the last several years with us about proliferation.” A White House spokesman said that the Administration valued Musharraf’s assurances that “Pakistan was not involved in any of the proliferation activity.” A State Department spokesman said that how to deal with Khan was “a matter for Pakistan to decide.”

Musharraf, who seized power in a coup d’état in 1999, has been a major ally of the Bush Administration in the war on terrorism. According to past and present military and intelligence officials, however, Washington’s support for the pardon of Khan was predicated on what Musharraf has agreed to do next: look the other way as the U.S. hunts for Osama bin Laden in a tribal area of northwest Pakistan dominated by the forbidding Hindu Kush mountain range, where he is believed to be operating. American commanders have been eager for permission to conduct major sweeps in the Hindu Kush for some time, and Musharraf has repeatedly refused them. Now, with Musharraf’s agreement, the Administration has authorized a major spring offensive that will involve the movement of thousands of American troops.

Musharraf has proffered other help as well. A former senior intelligence official said to me, “Musharraf told us, ‘We’ve got guys inside. The people who provide fresh fruits and vegetables and herd the goats’ ” for bin Laden and his Al Qaeda followers. “It’s a quid pro quo: we’re going to get our troops inside Pakistan in return for not forcing Musharraf to deal with Khan.”

SNIP



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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 08:45 AM
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9. Musharraf is meeting Bush this Friday....
WASHINGTON, Sept. 14 (UPI) -- President Bush will consult separately in Washington later this month with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf and Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

The White House said Thursday Bush would welcome Musharraf to the White House on Sept. 22 and Karzai on Sept. 26.

"The two presidents (Bush and Musharraf) last met during President Bush's historic visit to Pakistan in March," spokesman Tony Snow said. "The two leaders will review developments across the spectrum of our strategic partnership, including progress in bilateral cooperation in energy, education, science and technology, economic development, counter-terrorism, and advancing freedom and democracy."

Pakistan is a key strategic ally in South Asia in the war on terrorism. It also borders Afghanistan, where U.S. and coalition forces toppled the Islamist and al-Qaida-supporting Taliban in the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

Snow said among the topics Karzai and Bush would broach included expansion of government programs in Afghanistan, countering the continued threat from Taliban guerrillas and efforts to stem opium production and smuggling.



http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060914-125304-3482r


And from the DKos article:


It struck me a week or so ago that every time Bush and Musharraf get together there is another major incident of terrorism somewhere in the world followed by another grant of billions of dollars in aid to Pakistan. Pay off or blackmail, I couldn't say, but surely more than coincidence. With Musharraf coming to the White House this week, and Bush's warning last week that the terrorists "will strike again", I felt it was time to do a little research.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:46 AM
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11. Y'know, Junk, I understand people get bored with repetition, but it's SO
important that more come to REALIZE that what went down in BCCI is the root to EVERYTHING happening in the world today.

The quote you posted made a tough observation, too tough for most people to wrap their brains around - but I'd put up money that he's right.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 09:56 AM
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12. The Big Money / Big Oil guys behind the rogue CIA are desperately...
trying to maintain their control of the world. The Saudi oil will only last so long. They've been keeping the next biggest oil reserves (Iraq) off the market for 50 years, but they can't/won't bring Iraq online until they deal with Iran.

Make oil obsolete or put Iraq's oil beyond their control and the cabal loses power.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:27 AM
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13. All of these people are so exposed that it won't be hard to take them down
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 10:29 AM by leveymg
As horrible as 9/11 and the Iraq War have been, they also forced Americans to take a close look at the web of intrigue and corruption that's been just below the surface of U.S. politics, hiding behind the wall of secrecy weilded by the intel agencies.

If we can see, describe, and understand the need to clean up this sewer, so can the many people of good will and personal integrity within US law enforcement, intelligence, and the uniformed military. Our analysis is their analysis of the situation. Only, they're in a position to do something about it -- it just takes time to do it the right way, without further bloodshed, and without fatal damage to the Constitution and American interests around the world.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:55 AM
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22. Shortly after 9-11, Kerry brought up BCCI in a CNN report and there was
that one mention, and then NO OTHER media picked up on it. By Sept. 20, it was all Bush all the time.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:09 PM
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26. That's why I was so impressed by Al Gore's words yesterday...
...

Our current ridiculous dependence on oil endangers not only our national security, but also our economic security. Anyone who believes that the international market for oil is a "free market" is seriously deluded. It has many characteristics of a free market, but it is also subject to periodic manipulation by the small group of nations controlling the largest recoverable reserves, sometimes in concert with companies that have great influence over the global production, refining, and distribution network.

...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2165064&mesg_id=2165064
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:15 PM
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27. I'm looking forward to the day that Gore tells what he knows about those
books Clinton closed for Poppy.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:20 AM
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18. Damn!
:scared:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:01 PM
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24. I am with you
they have nukes, don't they???
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:58 PM
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30. Hell yeah, lots of them.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:29 AM
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14. On what date did the CIA stop funding these terror organizations?
I never get an answer for this one.

Don
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:39 AM
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15. Which - MEK that morphed into al-Qaeda? 1995 seems likely.
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 10:55 AM by leveymg
Osama bin Laden had his falling out -- an armed confrontation -- with Cofer Black, the CIA Chief of Station in Khartoum in 1995. It seems reasonable to assume that it would have been at that time.

FYI - Cofer Black was the head of the CIA Counter-Terrorism Center on January 15, 2000 when the FBI liaison there was ordered to withhold a cable to the Bureau's National Security Unit in NY that the Flt. 77 hiajackers, al-Hazmi and al-Midhar, had just entered the US at LAX after attending an al-Qaeda planning summit in Kuala Lumpur that was videotaped by the CIA.

It also seems logical to assume that Cofer Black had been bin Laden's case officer. See, Scoop: UQ Wire: THE CRIMES OF 9/11 (Part 4)
THE CRIMES OF 9/11 (Part 4): Bush White House, CIA, FBI Bungled Risky ... Al Fawwaz was a key connection between bin Laden and al-Massari and his wife, ...

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00257.htm
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:54 AM
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16. More here about the CIA , Black and UBL in Sudan
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 11:04 AM by leveymg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cofer_Black

Black transferred from London, England to Khartoum, Sudan in 1993. There he was the CIA's station chief in a hostile country, that the United States had imposed economic sanctions upon due to their sponsorship of terrorism until 1995. This was a dangerous posting, where the main mission was collection of Human Intelligence (HUMINT) on terrorist cells and support structure. Near the end of his posting Osama bin Laden's men planned to assassinate him near the US embassy. Apparently, Osama bin Laden's group detected the CIA surveillance and traced it back to Black. In 1994, Black was responsible for the collection of intelligence that led directly to the capture of the terrorist known as Carlos (the Jackal).

Black helped carry out Bush's hard-line anti-terror policy and was often the public face of the war the president declared on terrorism after the September 11, 2001 attacks. In September 2004, Black drew criticism from Democrats for suggesting that the mastermind of those attacks, Osama bin Laden, could be captured soon. That followed a botched State Department report Black oversaw on terrorism around the world in 2003 that was used to argue the United States was winning the war on terrorism. In June 2004, the administration had to correct the report to more than double the count of people killed and injured by international terrorism.

In 1995, Black was named the Task Force Chief in the Near East and South Asia Division. From June 1998 through June 1999 he served as the Deputy Chief of the Latin America Division.

In addition to numerous exceptional performance awards and meritorious citations, Black received the Distinguished Intelligence Medal, the George H. Bush Medal for Excellence, and the Exceptional Collector Award for 1994.

Most recently, Black and his Blackwater USA company have provided private security as well as training and personnel for stability operations worldwide.






http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A59775-2004Feb21?language=printer
The Hunt Begins


At CIA headquarters, the unit set up to track Kasi was located in the Counterterrorist Center. A few partitions away was another small cluster of analysts and operators who made up what the CIA officially called the "bin Laden issue unit."

The unit had been created early in 1996 to watch bin Laden, who was then living in Sudan. By that point, the United States had decided for security reasons to close the embassy and CIA station in Khartoum, the Sudanese capital, where officers had previously been collecting intelligence about bin Laden's financial support for Islamic radicals in North Africa and elsewhere. In the spring of 1996, Sudan yielded to international pressure to expel bin Laden. The Saudi found sanctuary in Afghanistan in May.

The CIA had no station or base in Afghanistan, however, and it had no paid agents in the country at the time, other than those hunting for Kasi near Kandahar and a few loose contacts working on drug trafficking and recovering Stinger shoulder-fired missiles, according to Tom Simons, then U.S. ambassador to Pakistan, whose account is supported by several other U.S. officials familiar with the CIA's Afghan agent roster.

Back at Langley, the bin Laden unit, using classified channels, regularly transmitted reports to policymakers about threats issued by bin Laden against American targets -- via faxed leaflets, television interviews and underground pamphlets. The CIA's analysts described bin Laden at this time as an active, dangerous financier of Islamic extremism, but they saw him as more a money source than a terrorist operator.

To senior career officers in the CIA's Counterterrorist Center, the TRODPINT tribal team now beckoned as a way to watch bin Laden in Afghanistan. The paid Afghan agents could monitor or harass the Saudi up close, under CIA control -- and perhaps capture him for trial, if the White House approved such an operation. Operators and analysts in the bin Laden unit argued passionately for more active measures against him. Jeff O'Connell, then director of the Counterterrorist Center, and his deputy, Paul Pillar, agreed in the summer of 1997 to hand them control of the TRODPINT agent team, complete with its weapons and spy gear.

As bin Laden's bloodcurdling televised threats against Americans increased in number and menace during 1997, the CIA -- with approval from Clinton's White House -- turned from just watching bin Laden toward making plans to capture him.

Working with lawyers at Langley in late 1997 and early 1998, the TRODPINT agents' CIA controllers modified the original Kasi capture plan -- with its secret airstrip for extraction flights -- so it could be used to seize bin Laden and prosecute him, or kill him if he violently resisted arrest.

A long and frustrating hunt for bin Laden had formally begun.

During the three years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the hunt would eventually involve several dozen local paid CIA agents in Afghanistan and Pakistan, a secret commando team drawn from Uzbek special forces, another drawn from retired Pakistani special forces and a deepening intelligence alliance with Massoud, the northern Afghan guerrilla leader. Despite these varied efforts, bin Laden continually eluded their grasp.

Years later, those involved in the secret campaign against bin Laden still disagree about why it failed -- and who is to blame.

SNIP


http://www.mideastweb.org/log/archives/00000243.htm

By 1998, in fact, the FBI and CIA had known about Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden for quite some time. In January 1996, they had set up "Station Alex," a virtual intelligence station that was apparently an information clearinghouse. This belies the notion that interagency cooperation was nonexistent, though it may not have been perfect. 18 months later they had found Al-Qaeda cells in 56 countries according to Richard Clarke. Cofer Black, CIA counterterrorism director, testified -- http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_hr/092602black.html -- that they had been following Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden since 1991.






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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:17 AM
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17. Black's 2002 testimony before the Joint Congressional Committee:
Something clearly happened in 1995-96 that set bin Laden off on the path to war with the U.S. May I submit that Cofer Black knows precisely what that was.

Black's testimony:

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2002_hr/092602black.html

(U) Our reporting provided additional information about bin Ladin's commercial holdings and related activities. An al-Qa'ida defector laid out for us bin Ladin's role as a head of a global terrorist network.

(U) When I served in the Sudan from 1993 to 1995 we were certainly well aware of bin Ladin. We watched him closely, his people and his facilities. Some believe that he was enough of a threat by the time he was leaving the Sudan that we should have picked him up. However, the US did not have a warrant. No other country would accept him before he left the country and then he fled to Afghanistan. As an.aside, I will note that speculation suggesting that bilateral political relations could have provided us bin Ladin from the Sudan are simply mistaken.

Bin Ladin Declares War

(U) From 1996 on, bin Ladin's threats against Americans increased dramatically.



In 1996 his allies issued a fatwa authorizing attacks against Western military targets on the Arabian Peninsula.

In 1998, just before the East Africa Embassy bombings, his clerics issued another fatwa stating that muslims have a religious obligation to kill military and civilian Americans worldwide.
Also in 1998, bin Ladin said that acquisition of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons was a religious obligation and that "How we would use them was up to us." We also knew from our reporting that he was actively trying to acquire weapons of mass destruction.


(U) By 1998, we developed substantial intelligence about bin Ladin, Mullah Omar, other terrorist leaders and on their training camps. Our efforts to capture him and disrupt al-Qa'ida grew increasingly intense from 1998 to the present.

Kuala Lumpur

(U) The January 2000 operation to learn what a group of suspected al-Qa'ida associated men were doing in Kuala Lumpur is a case where our procedures were - inadequate. The first part of that operation was successful. We picked up on intelligence developed during the FBI's investigation of the 1998 Nairobi attack, to identify two suspected al-Qa'ida men. We tracked them to a meeting in Kuala Lumpur where they met with other terrorist operatives. We were not able to learn what the men did during that meeting, but we were able to identify other participants. That information continues to be operationally useful today.


(U) While the meeting was in progress, CTC officers detailed to the FBI kept the FBI updated through verbal briefings. Where we fell short was in our not informing the Department of State that we had identified two al-Qa'ida men so that the Department could decide whether to place them on the watchlist. Nearly two years later, those two men, al-Mihdhar and al-Hazmi, were hijackers on Flight 77.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:52 AM
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20. You need to post this stuff in a separate thread - collect it and post it
in one beginning thread.

More eyeballs need to see this.

Seriously. The more people at DU truly UNDERSTAND what's going on and the background, the better they can impart that information to others.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:06 PM
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25. Intend to do that.
The question upthread about when UBL went off the Agency payroll interests me. Using this thread as a document dump to write that up.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:56 AM
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23. CIA order to FBI liaison CounterTerrorism Center to withhold warningcable
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 11:58 AM by leveymg
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/10/105125/910

Perjury by CIA Counterterrorism Center Director - the Blocked Memo
by leveymg
Fri Jun 10, 2005 at 07:51:25 AM PDT
June 10, 2005. The LA Times reports that in early 2000, the CIA intentionally withheld a memo from the FBI that reported the entry of key 9/11 hijackers into the US. See:

In his testimony before the Joint Congressional Intelligence Committee in September 2002, former head of the CIA Counter-Terrorism Center (CTC) stated under oath that his office had inadvertently neglected to inform the FBI when it became known in early 2000 that Flight 77 hijacker, Nawaf al-Midhar, had entered the U.S. However, it was revealed yesterday that a memo informing the FBI had actually been drafted at CTC, but an order was issued blocking transmission of that information.

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In this sworn testimony, Cofer Black stated that he and Agency staff had simply missed the importance of reports that know al-Qaeda terrorists had entered the US after attending an al-Qaeda planning summit. According to Black, then CTC director -- who after 9/11 was promoted by President Bush to head State Department Counterterrorism -- the CIA Center failed to pass this information on to the FBI in early 2000 because staff were distracted and overworked. For more information see:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/03/01_ ...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/09/p/2 ...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0310/S00257.htm

However, as we learned yesterday, Black's testimony to Congress was a material misrepresentation of what is the most important question that Congress had for the CIA. Why wasn't the FBI informed in a timely way of this obviously critical development in tracking known al-Qaeda terrorists?

As ranking officer at CTC, Cofer Black was in a position to know about the Center's memo that had been prepared for transmittal to the FBI at the time. He was also clearly in the chain of command that would decide to block the memo's transmission to the FBI. Nonetheless, Black told Congressional investigators something quite different, and his testimony under oath before the Joint Committee was patently false, in light of the facts that were released yesterday.

US intelligence first became aware of Nawaf Al-Midhar in 1995, when he was referenced in a telephone call from a major al-Qaeda communications center in Yemen intercepted by the NSA. That communications post was run by Nawaf's uncle. The Al-Midhar family has long been prominent within the militant Yemeni Islamic opposition. Osama bin Laden's family is originally from Yemen, which has been the center of armed opposition to westerners for many decades since the British occupied the key port city of Aden and built a huge naval base there, which in the late 1990s was again visited by US naval forces after a long absence. This was viewed as a serious provocation by local Islamic radicals. The USS Cole was blown up in Aden harbour in October, 2000 during a "refueling stop".

In January 2000, The Agency had trailed the al-Midhar and his partner, Khalid al-Hazmi, as they traveled to a meeting with top al-Qaeda planners in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. That meeting. at which 9/11 and the bombing of the USS Cole were planned, was surveilled by multiple US and allied intelligence agencies. Al-Hazmi and Al-Midhar reentered the US on the same flight from Bangkok on January 15, 2000.

Somehow -- and this has been a major gap in the record -- the CIA neglected to notify FBI of the entry.

Now we know that this failure to notify the FBI was no oversight. A command decision was taken by the CIA -- Director Tenet had been briefed on multiple occasions about al-Midhar and al-Hazmi and the Kuala Lumpur meeting. The only question that remains is, why did the CIA allow known al-Qaeda terrorists to run free across the US, and complete their mission on 9/11?

The Bush Administration must now appoint a special counsel to immediately investigate Black's apparent perjury. Any delay can be viewed as obstruction of justice, and as an impeachable offense.

Copyright 2005. Mark G. Levey




http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9108.htm

Memo on 9/11 Plotters Blocked

New disclosures show that CIA information in 2000 about two Al Qaeda operatives in San Diego was squelched before reaching the FBI.

By Josh Meyer
Times Staff Writer

06/10/05 "Los Angeles Times"- - WASHINGTON — A chilling new detail of U.S. intelligence failures emerged Thursday, when the Justice Department disclosed that about 20 months before the Sept. 11 attacks, a CIA official had blocked a memo intended to alert the FBI that two known Al Qaeda operatives had entered the country.

The two men were among the 19 hijackers who crashed airliners into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a field in Pennsylvania.

If the FBI had received the official communique from the CIA's special Osama bin Laden unit when it was ready for transmittal in January 2000, its agents likely could have tracked down the men, according to U.S. intelligence officials familiar with a newly declassified report of the Justice Department's inspector general.

Officials involved in the case of alleged would-be hijacker Zacarias Moussaoui had attempted to block release of the report, asserting that it would compromise the outcome of his case. But Inspector General Glenn A. Fine went to court and won release of the report after deleting the section on Moussaoui.

The report does not draw major new conclusions or disclose significant new episodes about the months and years leading up to Sept. 11. Rather, it fills in blanks and provides new details about previously known matters — notably the failure to learn sooner about Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar, the so-called San Diego hijackers.

An 18-month delay in the CIA's handing over of information about the two hijackers to the FBI and other domestic law enforcement agencies had been well-publicized. But the report's conclusion that an agent had written a memo specifically designed for transmittal to the FBI to alert the bureau to the men's presence — and that a supervisor deliberately had prevented it from being sent — is new.

The reason the CIA official, identified by the fictitious name "John," put a hold on the communique remains a mystery, the report said. It said the officials involved didn't recall the incident. Even when the author of the memo followed up a week later with an e-mail asking if it had been sent to the FBI, nothing was done.

The memo was written by an FBI agent on assignment to the CIA's special Bin Laden unit. According to the report, rather than send his memo directly to the FBI, he sent it to the deputy chief of the CIA unit because only supervisors were authorized to send such memos to the FBI.

Fine's report contains extensive new detail about that incident, as well as several already reported missed opportunities by the FBI to track down the two men.


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Days after a meeting of Al Qaeda operatives in Malaysia in January 2000, the CIA's Bin Laden specialists drafted a flurry of memos about the two men, their suspected terrorist connections and Almihdhar's possible ties to the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa. Some of the memos were based in part on intelligence provided by the National Security Agency. The CIA was also in possession of a photocopy of Almihdhar's Saudi passport and valid multi-entry visa to the U.S.

Several cables from the CIA's Bin Laden desk disseminated the information to agency officials around the world — including to one of the unit's special agents detailed to the FBI's Washington field office, according to Fine's report.

That employee, "Dwight," began drafting a memo addressed to the FBI's Bin Laden unit chief at bureau headquarters and to its New York field office. The memo contained virtually all of the details known to the agency, including Almihdhar's passport and visa information, which listed his intention to stay in New York.

But at 4 p.m. that day, another CIA Bin Laden desk officer, "Michelle," added a note to the memo: "pls hold off on for now per ."

Eight days later, in mid-January, "Dwight" sent an e-mail to "John," asking why it hadn't been sent: "Is this a no go, or should I remake it in some way."

The CIA was unable to locate a response to the e-mail. Fine's report concludes that the CIA didn't turn over documentation of the electronic memo until Fine's investigators came across a reference and specifically asked for it in February 2004. That came so late in the investigation that it delayed release of the report and caused many more CIA and FBI officials to be interviewed, the report says.

Ultimately, Fine's investigators gave up trying to find an explanation.

Records show that the CIA didn't forward the information about Almihdhar and Alhazmi to domestic law enforcement officials until late August 2001, when it asked that the men be put on watch lists.





Also, see

http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/oig/fbi-911/index.html

A Review of
the FBI's Handling of Intelligence Information
Related to the September 11 Attacks
Office of the Inspector General
U.S. Department of Justice

Unclassified Version
June 19, 2006
This report is an unclassified version of the full report that the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) completed in 2004 and provided to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Department of Justice, the Congress, the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, and the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States. The OIG's full report is classified at the Top Secret/SCI level.

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CHAPTER 5 (PDF file) http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/oig/fbi-911/index.html

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