If Pukes Can Rig Election With "Malicious" Code On A Memory Card

[orleans]

then why can't we anti-rig them with an "anti-malicious" code that would simply kill the malicious code?

can't two play at this game so we can get '06 and ban these fucking machines?

[lvx35]

1. Beacuse we don't have a political model based on lies and conspiracy.

Its way harder for us to plan something like that without saying it loudly in public places like DU. We just really can't keep secrets well, we're open folks. The republicans however operate that way entirely.

[Kutjara]

2. Well, one of the problems is that Diebold control the latest software...

...version that's run on the machines at voting time, so they have the greatest opportunity to turn that software over to Republican hackers in advance of the polls. Putative Democratic hackers would have to access the machine, reverse engineer the software, write a patch to undo the malicious Repug code and then upload that code to the machine, all within the time alloted for them to cast a vote. A voter who takes 36 hours to cast their vote might arouse suspicion.

[salvorhardin]

4. Although at least we know accessing the machines is easier than thought

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=449872&mesg_id=449872

[autorank]

3. Like the Star Treck episode where good and evil had to be allowed

to battle endlessly, lest one dominate and ...

That's a clever idea. They have more experience but I'll bet our folks are much brighter at just about anything to do with a computer.

What we really need to do is trash the machines, go to paper and open up the process to public participation and viewing. It should be like jury duty for poll work shortages. Paper isn't that hard to deal with, Great Britain does paper elections and they're counted openly. What's the deal!

Oh, right. We're fixing the Florida mess with these machines. Did the Help America Vote Act take care of thees other Florida problems:

1) Having a Secretary of State, katherine Harris, who commissioned a a felon
purge to take 50,000 legitimate voters off the rolls...mostly black Floridians.

2) Having police visit voters in broad daylight to intimidate them.

3) Lousy equipment placed in minority areas when it is known to produced many
times the number of spoiled ballots as good equipment in predominantly white areas.

4) Candidate's brother runs the state.

Of course they didn't solve, or even address thees eproblems...just machines.
They're clever too.

[rman]

5. we do not own the machines

[orleans]

8. we don't have to own them. check out that video link in op n/t

[walldude]

6. If we had enough information telling us where to use an

"anti-code" of sorts then we would have enough information to bust them for rigging the election. A paper trail is the only "secure" election. As long as the Supreme Court is not involved :eyes:

[zbdent]

7. When someone says that you're beating a dead horse, remind them

that their party's the one who keeps claiming that "if one more person voted per district in Illinois, JFK wouldn't have stolen the election in 1960 ..."

[BrotherBuzz]

9. I would far prefer to capture the malicious code

I neither condemn nor condone this activity (I still live in a perfect world while I sleep), but I would enjoy viewing the fruits of a creative programmer who inserted code that superseded everything and captured every action/keystroke on a diebold machine for the world to see; proof of attempted tampering.

[spanone]

10. I don't want 'us' to become 'them'.

[Junkdrawer]

11. The machines have hundreds of security flaws...

How do you propose to prevent every possible attack? :shrug: