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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:01 PM
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19 y/o forced by parents to have abortion because baby's father is black
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 12:01 PM by kurth
Sept. 19, 2006, 9:31AM
Sheriff: Race a factor in kidnap case
By KATHARINE WEBSTER Associated Press Writer

SALEM, N.H. — A Maine couple accused of tying up their 19-year-old daughter, throwing her in their car and driving her out of state to get an abortion were upset because the baby's father is black, a Maine sheriff said Tuesday. Katelyn Kampf, who is white, told Cumberland County Sheriff Mark Dion that her mother "was pretty irate at the fact that the child's father was black, and she had made a number of disparaging remarks about that," he said.

Katelyn Kampf escaped Friday at a Salem shopping center and called police, who arrested her parents, Nicholas Kampf, 54, and Lola, 53, both real estate developers from North Yarmouth, Maine. The Kampfs were apparently taking their daughter to New York to try to force her to get an abortion there, police said.

The parents were arraigned Monday on kidnapping charges. The judge set bail at $100,000 each and ordered the Kampfs to have no contact with their daughter. If convicted of kidnapping, the Kampfs face 7 1/2 to 15 years in prison. Dion said he expects to bring charges in Maine also, after investigators consult with the district attorney Wednesday...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4197747.html

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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:03 PM
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1. And who is going to perform the procedure on an unwilling client? nt
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:27 PM
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14. No kidding. Every clinic tries to weed out cases like this one.
My guess is that they had a tame doctor in NY who was going to do it for a hefty fee, no questions asked.

I'm glad their daughter escaped. The decision belongs to the WOMAN, and no one else.
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:18 PM
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35. "both real e$tate developers" -- Most likely they had the cash for a
cash-and-carry doctor.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:04 PM
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2. Wanna bet they're the hypocritical FAUX "family values" type?
.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:05 PM
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4. LOL, probably pro life too. Abortion is only ok
when its your daughter...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:14 PM
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9. That's what I'm thinking. Why else would they go out of state?
.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:15 PM
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10. I heard on the radio that she was beyond the point
in her pregnancy where it could be performed in Maine.

Also that the father is in jail.


the local black radio station was all over this this morning.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:19 PM
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11. Hey CatWoman -
I'll have your baby. ;)))
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:20 PM
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13. ROFL!!!!!
:hi:

:wow:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:52 PM
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22. Hey! Me first!!
Just because I'm male doesn't mean I'm not willing! Eager, in fact. :silly:

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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:33 PM
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16. Didn't want the neighbors to know?
Wouldn't be the first time.

:shrug:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:57 PM
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23. you are right. now the world knows. buzzzzzzz
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:05 PM
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3. My question
Did her father change his last name, or was he born ein Kampf?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:05 PM
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5. The title of your post is misleading. She was not forced to
have the abortion (which would be quite impossible in the US due to informed consent laws). Her idiotic racist (RW fundie, perhaps??) parents may have had that in mind, but it is and was impossible.
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:05 PM
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6. I knew it.
When I heard this story I immediately thought, "The father's probably Black." What other reason would parents have to kidnap their adult daughter to have an abortion.

Also, where are the religious right? Shouldn't they be up in arms about this?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:40 PM
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18. .
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 12:41 PM by kgfnally
They don't like those mixed ones.

:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:44 PM
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19. Chill, D&C is ok, if it's the devils spawn.
There's a sickness in our society that is beyond measure.

Fundamentalism and racism are inextricably linked in this country.

Virulent, malignant cancer.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:05 PM
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7. Forcing someone to have an abortion is just as bad a forcing one not to
Either way, it violates the whole principle of having control over one's own body.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:07 PM
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8. I can think of no scenario where insanity doesn't come into this issue(?)
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:19 PM
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12. Wow, I know EXACTLY where that all happened....I've been in that
crappy Staples store to buy ink!!
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:32 PM
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15. DU called that one when the story first came out n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:35 PM
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17. Remember the story "Cora Unashamed"...
by Langston Hughes. It was shown on PBS Masterpiece Theatre a few years back. Some things never change, do they?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:46 PM
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20. Where are the Pro-Lifers on this one?
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 12:48 PM by ck4829
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:06 PM
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29. On another forum, I saw someone say kidnappers must be liberals
Because they think abortion is OK.

:eyes:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 12:51 PM
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21. Typical anti-choice bigots, imho.
No matter how much many of these people prance and posture, they're anti-choice and NOT uniformly anti-abortion (and claims of being "pro-life" is a vile joke). For those with the money, they'd be the first to go to a country that permitted abortions if it were outlawed in the US. After all, laws are for the "little people," right?

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:01 PM
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24. Sheriff: Race a factor in kidnap case ----is the headline




Sept. 19, 2006, 12:03PM
Sheriff: Race a factor in kidnap case

By KATHARINE WEBSTER Associated Press Writer
© 2006 The Associated Press
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:02 PM
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25. they only have a pic of the grandmother -to-be with the story, no grandad
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:03 PM
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26. but lawyer says race was not a factor.



.....Defense attorney Mark Sisti said Tuesday that a sworn statement by Salem police who interviewed both Katelyn Kampf and her parents said nothing about the father's race.

"This whole race-card thing is ridiculous and objectionable," said Sisti, who represented both of the Kampfs for their arraignment Monday, but is now representing only Lola Kampf. "There wasn't any mention in the sworn affidavit to the court about race being a factor in any way, shape or form."

Sisti also maintained there was no evidence a kidnapping had taken place in New Hampshire. The sworn affidavit said Katelyn described talking cordially with her parents during the trip from Maine.

But Salem Police prosecutor Ryan McFarland said in court Monday the Kampfs had their passports, rope, a rifle and ammunition in the car. He argued they posed a danger if released and could flee the country.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:05 PM
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27. Maine AGAIN?!
*heavy sigh* :-(
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:06 PM
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28. No abortion was performed
Not sure where you got the idea that the fetus was aborted. Clearly the daughter escaped, called police and is still pregnant.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:07 PM
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30. I knew it! I had a feeling this could have been the reason the other day:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:09 PM
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31. She didn't have an abortion
She escaped to police in time.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:10 PM
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32. Is there any evidence, other than the woman's statements...
that any of this happened?

I mean, did the police find rope and duct tape, etc. in the car?

Because the story itself is incredulous.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:15 PM
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34. Yes, and a gun.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:19 PM
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36. Crazy shit.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:12 PM
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33. I suspect that if one delves into this family history
you will likely find a family with lots of problems...going way back..

the daughter probably did not "live up to" the expectations of the parents, and even though she's no longer a child, they still think of her as the "naughty" child..

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