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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:34 PM
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Kerry Slaps Down Noran On "Dems Have No Solutions" BS
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 01:34 PM by stopbush
Noran O'Doodle was interviewing John Kerry (11:20am PDT, MSGOP) and rolled out the "Dems have no plans" RNC talking point. Kerry's answer was spot on:

"Of course we have alternatives strategies, and we've put them out there. But when the president gives 5-7 speeches a week and
the media covers them all live and then provides no response time for alternative views, then there is in effect no alternative plan" (Paraphrased).

He also enumerated points in his plan that differ greatly from bushco. He also banged on the "Osama is in Afghanistan" meme to pretty
good effect.

I just wish he'd drop the "the fact of the matter" lead in to every point. That's so 1980s Republican mantra.

And I wish Noran would interrupt RW guests with the same frequency and intensity that she does Dems.

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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:36 PM
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1. Thank you Senator Kerry nm
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:36 PM
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2. good going John!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:37 PM
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3. right on Kerry you gave it right back to her.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:42 PM
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4. See this BS:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:42 PM
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5. Good for you Sen. Kerry
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:44 PM
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6. AT LAST! Thank you, Senator Kerry!
He is ABSOLUTELY right -- the SMSM (sucky mainstream media) is hell-bent on keeping Shrubya's face in front of us and yet has the GALL to keep taunting the Dems as having no ideas! BRING BACK THE FUCKING FAIRNESS DOCTRINE AND THERE MIGHT ACTUALLY BE MEANINGFUL DEBATE IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

(Phew -- I feel better now.) Hope this gets some replay on MSRNC's evening shows.
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:48 PM
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7. Better 2 years late than never
to show you've got balls. I guess.

All the dems should be making these 2 points: We DO have a genuine workable plan and Big Media doesn't show us on TV.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:19 PM
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17. John Kerry has shown courage throughout his entire career
and certainly showed it in 2004. He's just better than ever now is all. I thought "wrong war at the wrong time in the wrong place" was pretty daring in Sept. 2004 when support for the Iraq War was MUCH higher, and he fearlessly trounced Bush in all three debates.

I'm glad you like what you're hearing now, but I felt he has always shown a tremendous amount of courage (how about protesting the Vietnam War, investigating Iran/Contra and BCCI, and even having a bill passed in 1991 to protect the wetlands off the coast of Louisiana -- now THAT is a plan and is prescient).
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 03:03 PM
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27. Kerry showed courage, to Democrats, NOT Republicans!
He shows a lot of courage...maybe "nerve" would be a better word...in soliciting contributions to his campaign, as he's done for the last few years by e-mail. But he hasn't been too good at showing it in the face of his political opponents, or in the faces of election officials that allowed votes to be stolen from him in 2004. Oh, he's willing to do it in 2006, when all the ballots have been burned and it's too late to do a recount...

I estimate Kerry has to do about four more years of chopping wood and carrying water for OTHER Democratic candidates before he should be considered for a Presidential run again. He's got an albatross around his neck, "and penance more to do."
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:32 PM
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24. where have you been?
:shrug:
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 12:29 AM
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29. I've been wandering the halls asking why Kerry had $15M in his war chest
Edited on Wed Sep-20-06 12:44 AM by tblue
after the election.

I like Kerry. I voted for him and I volunteered for him in the general election. I like what he's been saying lately and I believe he's a good senator. He did not run a good campaign and he could not reach the Red State voters at all. But more than anything my problem with John Kerry is the way he let us who voted for him down by not sticking to his guns when it really mattered. We had an opportunity to expose the voting mess in Ohio and other states, if Kerry would only stand with us. But instead he folded. And that made it impossible for the party and everyone else to demand a fair accounting of that election. Conventional wisdom went like this: "Sen. Kerry thinks the election was fair, he's not complaining, so there must be no significant problems with the election results." We could be miles beyond where we are in addressing our election problems. Yes, I blame John Kerry. I believe he made it much, much harder for us to fight this fight.

Why would anyone give him another chance to concede prematurely and leave us hanging again?

I didn't want to bring all this up, but you asked.
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:49 PM
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8. I was watching CNN before * 9/11 speech
and I remember one of the correspondents saying the Dems had written a letter to the heads of all MSM networks requesting equal time to respond to *'s non political, political speeches. Does anyone else remember hearing this?
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:03 PM
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13. That happened last week, IIRC.
Obviously it hasn't gotten any play in the MSM.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:50 PM
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9. Does anyone else think he'd make an OUTSTANDING Sec of State
in a Gore/Clark cabinet?????

:headbang:
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:26 PM
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21. We have a deep bench of Democratic leaders, but
What about a Clark Sec. of State in a Kerry/Gore administration? Just sayin' . . .
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:53 PM
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10. Norah also gave Laura Bush a tiny boost on her approval ratings (69%)
Norah reported that it was 70 percent. She has the data right in front of her.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:54 PM
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11. Norah recently lied about Bush's response time at the elementary school
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 02:01 PM by oasis
after Andy Card told him "we are under attack". She said it was five minutes.

It it widely accepted that the "sit down" time is 7 minutes. She shaves off, or adds on, according to what will best favor the Bushista regime.
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 01:58 PM
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12. So how come all of our candidates recently
grow balls after the election?

I mean really, both he and Gore would have had wider margins of victory if they had acted human, animated or angry.

But instead, they chose robotic, vanilla, boring, gag-inducing non-committal attitudes. And it cost them.

Good on em. Better late than never, I will have to settle for.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:08 PM
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14. You're inducing gagging in me
Believe what you want, just don't drag me into it
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:10 PM
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15. Some people have those r/w talking points ingrained, I see. nt
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:22 PM
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19. Especially at someone who has been visible pushing Katrina legislation n/t
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:24 PM
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20. I found Kerry to be very "human" in 2004. I think the media distorted
a lot with their "aloof" meme. But I will allow that he's now better than ever. A great voice for our party.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:34 PM
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25. October 2004
Does this look like a loosing campaign?

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:10 PM
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16. So do you all think Noran will accept that explaination..
and stop repeating that bullshit RNC talking point?

I predict she'll repeat it again within 24 hours or less and every day thereafter until the day after the election. She's a whore, period.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:38 PM
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26. Nope - next Dems who shows up she'll say the same thing.
It's the GOP storyline and their mediawhores intend to keep it that way.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:20 PM
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18. I saw the interview....
...it looked as if the conversation didn't end. Kerry was in the middle of saying something and then was cut. Usually the interviewer would thank the guest and then the guest would respond with a "thank you". He was cut off as if it was prerecorded. I thought it appeared as if she said her thank yous coming after a taped interview.

I think I'm right. If I am, I wonder what he was saying. :shrug:
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:31 PM
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22. Kerry, Dean, et al should make it clear
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 02:31 PM by ashling
to these airhead "journalists" (and I use that term verrry loosely), that they are themselves guilty of lying to their viewers by repeating that phrase over and over.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:32 PM
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23. It's not encumbent on Dems to have a quick, easy solution to W's
clusterf***. The mere fact of a Democratic Congress will at the very least force the Administartion to be forthright and honest. That's the best we can hope for. There are no easy solutions.
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stella Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 03:35 PM
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28. is hopeless
when you have the media telling people out there (who r maybe thinking of voting democrat) that bush and the republicans know their stance but the democrats don`t have nothing and if they win they will try to investigate investigate and nothing will be done, Hello? how can we exspect the republicans to lose?
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