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Suziq Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:13 PM
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Oh God- Randi is Breaking My Heart
:cry:

She is describing methods of torture we use. I am devastated . . .

:mad:
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:15 PM
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1. What report is she reading from?
That scenario with the blood and the cross was just ... unspeakably awful.

But, then, it's UNACCEPTABLE to even THINK of comparing ourselves with the "evildoers" ...

(Shaking head, rolling eyes.)
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Suziq Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:19 PM
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3. A Former Gitmo Detainee
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:17 PM
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2. the military and intelligence communities have ALWAYS done
this kind of shit. even against citizens. but they at least had the decency to keep it secret from us. they revel in it and seem so proud and "in your face" about it now.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:21 PM
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4. It's called intimidation. I'm increasingly convinced that they're
mostly doing this for crowd control.

Our policymakers are terrorists.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:23 PM
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5. of course
everything they are doing in iraq and afghanistan is a test case for what they'd love to do to us here.

they are test marketing the efficacy, means, and methods of the future corporate monarchy this country is in danger of becoming (or might have already become).
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:25 PM
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6. Long U.S. tradition. Look at Pinochet, Guatemala, El Salvador
Israel, Iran (both now and when it was fully supported by the U.S.)apartheid South Africa... all these nations used or use torture on a routine basis against popular movements not seen as favorable in the interests of the US elite. US did not hesitate to support these regimes.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:26 PM
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8. Not to mention under the police state in Chicago,
where the democratic party regime has long ruled.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:25 PM
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7. Yeah - I totally was pureposely not listening to the Guitmo stories.. and
the torture was much worse than I had assumed at the time. Pretty heart-breaking, horrifying, devastating.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:35 PM
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9. When she read of what a FEMALE soldier did
to a Gitmo detainee I wanted to :puke: Talk about psy-ops and culture war. So much for women being the kinder gentler gender, not that I ever believed that myth. Women can be just as brutal as men. Evil is not concentrated in one gender.

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