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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:19 PM
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Why are so many races "too close to call"? Media and Rove voting SCAMS
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 04:19 PM by symbolman
For a few years now races have been "too close to call" or "Neck and Neck", etc..

THIS is how they steal elections and create polarizing in the public, the IMPRESSION of polarization makes people argue, divide and conquer.

The "neck and neck" or "the race is withing the margin of error" is a SCAM, the design is to get the result that the election RESULTS are LESS than the 2 or 3% that requires LEGALLY a RECOUNT. They refuse to recount or open the BOX and investigate, and can't be forced legally to do so, hence even tho it could have "gone either way" SOMEHOW it falls THEIR WAY, and then they start SCREWING US to the wall. Helps to have judges in their pockets.

They AREN'T WINNING, races Never used to be this way, or rarely so, at some point there was a tipping point or a surprise scandal breaking, and SOMEONE would ZOOM AHEAD to WIN.. the American way..

ROVE'S WAR AGAINST US includes the Media promoting this SCAM, watch for it in nearly every race, even when you KNOW the Repig is REVILED by everyone you talk to, and that it' flatly impossible that so many would even consider voting for the scumbag.

CALL IT when you see it, and remind people this ISN'T the way it Used to be, and mathmatically Impossible - for nearly ALL races to be Neck and Neck is the BIG LIE, don't fall for it.

It works hand in hand with DIEBOLD, Law, and the grey zone of MARGINS where the ROVES LIVE and hide under ROCKS.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:21 PM
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1. My take...
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:21 PM
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2. So I guess the internal pollsters for campaigns are in on this scam too?
Edited on Tue Sep-19-06 04:22 PM by tritsofme
That's really something...control over every pollster in the country...
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:28 PM
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6. No. the control is over WHO gets mentioned
what poll is bandied about on the media incessantly - c'mon you know you can make people think a DUCK is an ELEPHANT with proper control of the questions asked.

Also people have been TOLD so many years by the media that we are a DIVIDED Nation that being dutiful "repeater stations" they have that OPINION NOW.

Ask yourself why bush can't drop below 33% in this country, even if he kills a live puppy and eats it on tv?

Yes, the polls ARE controlled, by the Media and WHO hears about it - haven't you noticed when your eyes are SEEING a half a million people protesting and the Media says, "tens of dozens" were protesting, etc?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:37 PM
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7. We are anything but a united nation.
There is a lot of division in this country, and I don't know who could dispute that.

I don't watch tv news anymore, but it seems like the polls that get the most attention are the ones in which Bush does horrible and the ones that are higher than others. Both are probably outliers.

Why doesn't Bush go under 30%? Nixon barely went under 30% in his final days IIRC, I don't have a problem believing there is a core group of supporters that will stand by him, even if he kills puppies live on tv as you said.
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:48 PM
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10. I think if you have a majority you're not divided
President Clinton had a 75% approval rating WHILE being Impeached during the witch hunt, consider Bush's low ratings at this point in history, and I think you might be pleasantly surprised to find that americans ARE WAKING UP, slowly, like a sleeping giant we are becoming MORE United each day..

Bush IS a Uniter, he's getting us to all work together to oust him.

At 33% I think the Polarization LIE is a big fat Media LIE designed to stress us, make us fight each other instead of tearing the media and the repigs to pieces.

I DO watch TV, since I have Takebackthemedia.com as a site I've got no choice but to pay attention to the Propaganda, and it's getting DEEP. I'd watch TV anyway, I like knowing where the snakes are, and if they have TEETH :)
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Rockstone Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:22 PM
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3. My theory is that the tabulators are cooked after 5:00 PM
They wait until the predictable result trend is established, then they know how many to steal in the tabulator for a safe, close win.

What we see is a reversal of results in the evening from the exit polls that have been going on all day.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:44 PM
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8. Theft occurred around 10 pm mountain standard time in 2004
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:23 PM
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4. Make it close enough so the public can't question the outcome
You know the media will never ask about the true outcome. But they need to keep the races close enough in the polls so that when the fix is in on the machines, no one will think twice.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:23 PM
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5. You're right
But don't expect the majority of people in this country to see it
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:47 PM
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9. setting it up to steal "just enough" to eek out wins
and maintain control of Congress
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 04:51 PM
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11. Exactly
Rove's been playing the "margins" game, that's why we get places like FLORIDA or OHIO being ALL too Important -- eeking out that small margin that can't be disproved.

Making poor and black people stand in line for 16 hours to vote while those in Repig areas are surrounded by unused Voting machines also works in their favor, that's changing the odds and margins..
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:02 PM
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12. I believe the 2002 election was stolen too in Georgia
to see if they could get away with it without questions.

Georgia was one of the first states to have so many Diebold machines and I can't find my facts right now, but I believe they went from 4 or 5 Dems for congress/senate to just 1 or 2 (Max Cleland was one that lost out in that cheatfest)

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:23 PM
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14. that implies they use many operatives to steal the election
if that is the case, they would concentrate on one state to risk being caught red handed, because we've only caught them pink handed (Blackwell doing everything he could to circumvent people's right to vote and mathematically high odds of Bush getting votes in certain places, but still no video tape or admission of corruption, just Clint Curtis saying Rep. Feeney FL contacted him to make a vote swiping machine, Curtis is running against Feeney this year!!) and thus, if they're doing this, they're concentrating their efforts on battleground states, not states like NY or CA where it would go against the polls too large to steal so many votes...

nothing surprises me
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:41 PM
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17. Too close to call? setting up the fix now that it's too close to call, we
will (GOP) let the Voting machines determine the outcome. keeping in mind this election involves the possible rendering Bush/Cheney as the outcome - Bottomline: Who would be willing to do whatever it takes to succeed?!!

We saw what Diebold was capable of doing in 2004, Dems better have their own October surprise!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:21 PM
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13. While working on a film about electronic voting
we interviewed the former democratic govenor of Alabama. he told us how in the Middle of the NIGHT they closed the Baldwin County Courthouse to pollworkers and media, and then MOVED 6500 votes from His column over to his opponents, right there in the courthouse. No other numbers were changed..

They tried to blame it on a lightning strike in a district, but the district didn't even contain that many people, not to mention if there's a lighthing strike it doesn't cause a computer to take ONE SET OF NUMBERS and change them to an opponent.

It was FLATLY impossible, but there was nothing he could do about it, the DA refused to "open the ballot box" PERIOD.

I believe that THIS was one of their first tests to see if they could get away with it, and is the basis of how to steal votes at a primordial level, other than the usual southern tricks of tossing a trunkful of ballots into the swamp for alligator nest building :)

Yep, Max was ROBBED, not to mention being compare to Bin Laden or Saddam after losing THREE limbs for his country. That was one of the most disgusting displays of hatefulness toward a veteran I've seen, even if you don't count the church notes (ala Rove Whisper Campaign) that were left on windshields during McCain's run, about his drug addled wife and bastard black love child (a Mother Theresa orphan they adopted)..

We've got the goods on film, we know how this works - but if you really want the truth listen/read both Mark Crispin Miller and Greg Palast for the best in news about voting and fraud..
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 05:27 PM
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15. "THE DEMOCRATS HAVE NO PLAN"!
How many times have I heard that in the last month? That is straight from Rove and will be a main element in the RNC/M$M attack machine on the Democrats this fall. And it will work because the Democrats have no voice on TV. :(
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 10:34 PM
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16. Yep and here's the other one
The Democrats want to "cut and run" from Iraq!!

My answer, and please send this far and wide, "Those who keep screaming that the Democrats want to 'cut and run' are the exact same people who 'RAN AND HID' when it was time to serve their country during Vietnam.."

USE IT, tell your senator to SAY IT and REPEAT IT DAILY and it may just help us win :)
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-20-06 08:18 PM
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18. Just a little kick
I think folks need to have this in the back of their minds when they see SO MANY RACES being "called" neck and neck, or too close to call, esp when we have so much vote corruption on top of it..

If we pass thia along enough, maybe someone with credentials can write about this "anomally", eh?
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