SurveyUSA Poll: Ohio GOP IMPLODING, Blackwell/Dewine set for disaster

[Grebrook]

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=c66f4fed-9a06-4947-bdda-6e1df16f0dd1

In the Governor's race:
Blackwell (R): 35
Strickland (D): 56

Brown (D): 52
Dewine (R): 42


Among young voters and independents it's a complete wipeout. Even 24% of Republicans are cross voting for Democrats.

This is great news because the GOP controls 12 of the 18 house seats in Ohio, which could potentially translate into a landslide Democratic win in November in Ohio, bringing in a net of one senator, one governor and as many as 3 - 5 house seats. Just like in 2004, Ohio is going to decide who controls the government in November. And this time is looks like a disaster for the right-wing.

[Selatius]

1. Brown should not rest until Dewine is well into the 30s

Anything in the 40s is too close to steal. Brown must bulldoze Dewine into the ground.

[Recursion]

24. Well, we owe an oath here

We all know who will win an honest election in Ohio.

If the Bad Guy wins, this has to be ground zero. We all have to converge there and demand to know what happened.

[Bozita]

28. "too close to steal" -- That's my concern too.

[Cha]

34. There was the Best article on

Brown in The Nation..he was on the cover.

"What Can Sherrod Brown Do For The Democrats?"



"The road to the Democratic Party's renewal runs through Allen County, Ohio. And Sherrod Brown is on it, looking for the towns his party forgot and the voters who got away. "We have a government in Washington that has betrayed the middle class and the working poor in this country," the Democratic Senate candidate tells a crowd gathered in the back of a Carpenters Union hall in Lima, the manufacturing town that is the turbine in the county's sputtering economic engine. "You know what I mean when I say 'betrayed.' There's no other word for it. And I'm not one of those Democrats who is going to hesitate to talk about that betrayal. The stakes are too high for places like this." "Amen!" comes a call from the crowd. "Sherrod's talking the language people here talk," says Derry Glenn, a Lima city councilman, who stands in an open doorway at the back of the hall. "You start by establishing that you understand what's wrong. Kerry never did that."

Theoretically, Lima should be Democratic turf. A blue-collar town with a solid union base and a substantial African-American population, this city of 40,000 has lost 8,000 manufacturing jobs and a quarter of its population over the past two decades. A few years back, a PBS documentary crew titled a report from Lima Lost in Middle America. Though Lima still has a Ford plant and an Army tank facility, the deindustrialization that has hammered Ohio during George W. Bush's tenure has taken a particular toll here. The local unemployment rate sits at 6.9 percent, a full point above the Ohio rate, which is a full point above the national rate. Yet in 2004, Democrat John Kerry only managed a tie with Bush in the city, while the Republican swept Allen County by a 2-to-1 margin. The inability of the Democrats to capitalize on economic issues to put towns like Lima in their column has contributed mightily to Republican domination of Ohio, where all major statewide offices are in GOP hands and where the last two presidential elections handed Bush the electoral votes he needed to secure the presidency. No matter what one thinks about the electoral shenanigans Republicans pulled before and during the 2004 presidential vote, a Democrat has to hold his own in places like Lima and Allen County if he wants to win by a big enough margin to put talk of recounts behind him. "We are going to do a lot better than Kerry in these towns," Brown says, as he whirls through another sixteen-hour day at senior centers, union halls and Farm Bureau meetings in communities that don't see many big-name Democrats."

More
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20061002/nichols2

It's so good, you have to read it!

[OzarkDem]

41. He's so right

Dems abandoned so many of these areas where they had supporters. Sherrod wasn't going to ignore them.

The latest Ohio poll from U of Cincinnati showed 30% of Republicans are willing to vote Democratic this time around. That's very big news.

[OzarkDem]

40. He will

As has been said many times before, Brown is an experienced campaigner. He leaves nothing to chance.

He can also use some support, consider making a donation

http://www.sherrodbrown.com/

[Lone_Star_Dem]

2. Couldn't happen to a nicer pair.

Congrats Ohio!

[Ksec]

3. great news

Fingers crossed it stays that way.

[wagthedogwar]

4. the great whirlygig of time exacts its revenge--B Fuller

How sweet it is

[Imagevision]

5. Public officials like Blackwell should never be allowed in office!

[racaulk]

6. I sure hope Mean Jean goes with them!!! n/t

[OhioChick]

7. ...

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[saltpoint]

8. Great news on the blue trend in the Buckeye State and

I second recaulk's notion that Mean Jean Schmidt go down with the red ship.

Go, Democrats.

[Swamp Rat]

14. Down with Mean Jean Schmidt!!!

:D

[saltpoint]

22. Hey Swamp Rat. And there's ol' Jean herself, looking better than

ever.

I think it's the eyes.

Warm and welcoming, aren't they?

[warrens]

9. Illinois is good for three seats

Seriously, this could turn into a landslide. Not just a narrow victory.

[MikeNearMcChord]

10. So who wants to bet that gas in Ohio

goes down to $1.50 by November 7th?:popcorn:

[Ikonoklast]

11. Trust me, they could give it away for free here in the Buckeye

DeWine and Blackwell would still get the boot.

People here are p*i*s*s*e*d.

Buh-bye, BushBots.:hi:

[MikeNearMcChord]

13. As a former resident of Newark and Warren, Ohio

I think you're right.

[Ikonoklast]

16. You mean a former resident of

Noork and Worn, right?


Can always tell the out-of-staters.:thumbsup:

[mtnester]

48. That would be NERK...

you got the other one right

Now, git down to the crick and warsh your clothes

:)

[mtnester]

47. It was getting lower, but actually went back up 30 cents a gallon

And BTW, anyone between the ages of 5 and 100 here KNOWS it is an election year. When the prices started to fall, ALL I heard for a week was "it must be an election year"

Gas prices are so crazy anymore that people take them with a grain of salt. They do not give credit to anyone if they go down (most people think they should be lower), but when they go up, they blame the politicians and the gas companies. No gray areas on this one.

That said, free gas and money laying in the streets will not help Ken Blackwell win his race. The Brown/DeWine race it still a little too close to call.

[eppur_se_muova]

58. It's down to $2.08 already -- and that was last week.

I was glad to see an editorial cartoon on gas prices that suggested it was the upcoming election responsible for the drop. It's not just paranoia on our part; others see it too.

[annabanana]

12. And if the unthinkable happens....

and the pubicans retain the seats (in a squeaker, natch)... will everyone THEN concede that the machines and the proprietary software are the culprits?

[samsingh]

17. yes

[thereismore]

15. Please God make it so! Amen. nt

[NewJeffCT]

18. Are there any GOP seats in Ohio that are close?

I know Jean Shit had a close race a few months back... but, any others?

[Grebrook]

19. Well, let's put it this way, her seat went for the GOP by 72% in 2004

That's the second highest vote-getting GOP seat in Ohio. Potentially, it means just about EVERY GOP seat is in play.

[dsc]

20. Not really she is a horrible candidate

and we have put good candidates against her. In 2004 they had a good candidate and we had dogmeat. Bush's margin is more reasonable to look at and it was well under 20 and I think it was closer to 10.

[Ignacio Upton]

31. Exactly

Mean Jean's predecessor, Rob Portman (who now works for the administration) was respected (even though he was a right-winger) while Mean Jean has baggage and is a TERRIBLE campaigner. We also ran only token opposition against Portman. She only beat Hackett because the NRCC pumped in last minute money and because it's a Republican-leaning district. Just curious, is Hackett campaigning for Wulsin?

[dsc]

45. i think so but am not sure

[theHandpuppet]

46. Cincinnati and its satellite burbs are the problem in District 2

The rural eastern counties in D2 -- Pike, Brown, Adams and Scioto -- went for Hackett by large margins. Scioto went for Hackett by 65-35%. The problem is how the district is drawn to always favor Republicans. The neofascists in Clermont, Warren and Hamilton counties always carry the day for the GOP and the rural counties always end up getting punished for voting for Dems.

[mtnester]

49. There is a TON of money being thrown into the Pryce(R)/Kilroy(D) race

and also the Padgett (handpicked R) and Space (D) race....they are critical too.

[senseandsensibility]

21. kick for the good news

:toast: :party: :toast: :party:

[DemReadingDU]

23. Polls don't mean anything, today

How many times have the Dems been ahead in the polls, then find out they have lost the election by 3 points, 4 points, 5 points.

I have the feeling on November 8, we will find the Republicans as having been elected, the voting machines will have glitches, the polls will have been found to be wrong prior to election, and Democrats will have lost, again.

However, I will be voting for my Democrats in the event of a slim chance...that there will be no errors with the voting machines and the polls actually are right!

[Ignacio Upton]

32. If Blackwell and DeWine are losing by this much on Election Day

They won't be able to get away with stealing the election.

[mtnester]

50. It won't be the machines that do it.....

Here is how it will work in Ohio (because we are already seeing most of it happen as we speak)

1. Polling locations being consolidated into mega precincts - 5 and 6 precincts voting in the same place, stupid rules about standing in line and stepping up to the wrong table will be imposed.

2. Polling locations are being switched/changed EVERYWHERE...and no real notification of that. Many are being moved to the most inconvenient spots, with no parking, and many more miles away from primarily Dem voters than their previous locations. Long time voters who have been voting in locations for DECADES will show up only to find out that a SINGLE precinct (theirs )was moved from that location to above mentioned inconvenient, no parking, miles away, traffic nightmare of a location with lines that are 4 hours long.

3. Ohio's Voter ID law, if not struck down before election day, will result in THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of provisional ballots...which of course will be counted just like in Election 2004 (NOT), IF you are even allowed to cast one

4. Provisional ballots - won't ever be counted, and they will run out of them

5. HAVA - joke...no one followed it in 2004, no one will follow it in November

6. Voter purging - already happening massively

7. "Loss" of total numbers of voting machines - when you "mega precinct" there is not enough room for all those tables, chairs, people...the machine numbers will probably not even equal the appalling lack of them in 2004 - result - extreme waits to vote

8. - Challenges and voter disinformation/intimidation - will exceed 2004 Ohio levels without question

9. Ill informed (or deliberately obtuse) poll workers when it comes to all the above, particularly the Voter Id portion

10. Ill informed poll workers result in constant busy signals at local BOE's - no one knows where to vote, no one can clarify rules

11. And finally - the weather. Lines will be LONG just like '04. If it rains, is cold, is windy and rainy...forget it...just like in 04 people will leave lines or simply not go at all due to hysterical line reporting by the local media...just like in 04.

I watched this happen in 2004, and the massive movement of all of the above right now is FAR greater than in 2004. Plus the additional Ohio Voter ID rule...

If we do not have poll watching and assistance, we will lose...they don't NEED the machines when Ken Blackwell, who ordered up Voter ID and approves and oversees ALL of the above, is following almost the same game plan as in 2004, only on a larger scale. Factor in the Diebold cheat and failure factor, and even Blackwell could get elected. DeWine certainly will.

Have mercy...and my screaming and phone calls and letters CANNOT fix this...cannot.

[LaPera]

25. What state is more voting machine corrupt, Ohio, Alaska or Georgia?

Florida & Texas deserve dishonorable mention.

Republican Secretary of States "counting" the votes.

[roseBudd]

26. Post on SW OH's newspaper's politics blog, we're smearing them &

they have no ammunition to return fire with. Itsfun to be so mean

http://fronteir.cincinnati.com/blogs/gov/

[mod mom]

29. Rosebud-you need to fix your link. sp frontier

[roseBudd]

53. link fixed

http://frontier.cincinnati.com/blogs/gov/

[midnight]

27. Finally so good news. I have been very dicouraged looking

for something to say goody goody gum drops about tonight. Thanks for sharing.

[mikeybabe125]

30. I just hope...

It STAYS this way. With all this news on fraud being exposed, and voting machines failing, I hope the repubs dont find a way out of this. We cant let our guard down, I dont care if it seems like every state is in the bag.

[Brundle_Fly]

33. Blackwell will steal it.

I don't think a 20 point difference, hell a 40 point difference would stop him.... he feels its his due.

on another note, I think Lieberman has a deal with the GOP voting machine stating he has earned a win thanks to diebold too, he never figured he would get ousted by his own party, but he is still expecting a win regardless, thus not quitting.

f**ckers

[driver8]

36. I was just going to post the same thought. There is no way that

Blackwell will go down until he has used all of the "tricks" at his disposal.

I would put money on Blackwell for governor of Ohio.

[VolcanoJen]

37. You give him far more credit than he deserves.

Don't forget, Blackwell just isn't that tricky. He's not that good. He's not that bright. He's not that nefarious. He's not that clever.

He could never pull it off.

He's dunzo. And this is one Buckeye who can't frikken wait to watch Strickland mop him up.

This state owes that Blackwell jerky a strong message. It's coming....

[Marr]

38. I tend to agree with you. Remember those initiatives a while back,

that dealt with cleaning up the election process? They had overwhelming support in the pre-election polling (something like 65% in favor, 35% against), but the numbers magically flipped in the actual election. Every other initiative matched up to the polling, but the ones dealing with election reform were waaay off.

And no one did a damn thing.

I have to wonder about the entire Congress, personally. I mean looking at it from the Bush Administration's point of view- if you're willing to blatantly steal elections just test out a crazy foreign policy theory and steal money, surely you'd be willing to steal elections to save your ass from legal prosecution.

[LaPera]

39. He will "count" the votes...Republican Sec. of State...

Yes, he will steal it, but, we'll still be voting...It's Diebolds home territory, Ohio. Blackwell has done everything asked of him to distort...The republicans don't care how far behind they are they will do it... And DeWine is along for the promised republican ride. They can flip the votes at any given moment...It's been done many times before.

STILL, we won't give up!!!

[cmf]

52. No joke - I can see the election night headlines already.

"In a stunning reversal from the exit polls, Republicans sweep the election!" People don't realize that until we address the problems with the vote, we don't have democracy.

[Brundle_Fly]

55. you headline is correct.

and not one department, news outlet, fact finder, service or institution will follow up.

except us here, banging our heads.

[Marr]

57. I think it's going to be "Republicans manage to hang on to slim majority".

They'll sacrifice a few races here and there for appearance's sake.

[PaDem]

59. if Strickland maintains a 20 point lead or thereabouts..........

into the first week of November and Blackwell wins, the Democratic Party will expose the fraud.

[Jack Rabbit]

35. Do any Ohioans have a poll by Congressional District of each House race?

Thank you.

As for Blackwell, this couldn't happen to a nicer election fraudster.

[OzarkDem]

42. Not for all of them

But SurveyUSA has quite a few.

[Jack Rabbit]

43. Thanks.

!!

[farmboxer]

44. I still worry about the Repub Voting machines.

all they have to do is hack them.

[Eurobabe]

51. Can't wait to VOTE absentee, STRAIGHT DEM in OH!!!!!!

Fuck BlacKKKwell and DeWIno!!

[BillORightsMan]

54. Can you cross-post on the DU-OH board?

Thanks in advance!

Also, I aggree with mtnester. They have 50 ways to steal an election!

If you need an idea for a poster/flyer see my website:
www.BillORightsMan.com

Feel free to take snips from the link "New Nixon Law..." article to add to your flyer.

:patriot:

[Imagevision]

56. Blackwell once owned stock in Diebold Inc. - must be voted out for

national security.