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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:16 PM
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Looks like Congress has caved again
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 04:17 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
They are announcing on MSNBC that Congress has reached some kind of a deal with the W.H. to pass his bill to torture terror suspects. I haven't heard all of it but you might want to be paying attention tonight.

Coming up on Hardball
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:18 PM
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1. the committee in the Senate has, it hasn't gotten to the floor yet
has it? It also has to go the the floor of the house if I'm not mistaken. I don't understand why these people won't fight this insanity.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:25 PM
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6. I don't know, I am switching to the Senate on C-Span to see
what is going on.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:18 PM
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2. Saw This Coming TEN THOUSAND MILES AWAY.
Heck, the astronauts in the shuttle could have seen this one coming from outer space.

Now, everybody's happy. Well, not the Democrats of course, but who gives a shit about them?

REPUBS WIN!! REPUBS REACH CONSENSUS!! Everything's fine, and all is right in the world once again.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:21 PM
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5. The polls must have come in today showing that the sheep
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 04:22 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
were more scared than concerned about what type of government we have.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:21 PM
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3. This congress is afraid it's going to be a lame duck anyway,
so they're trying to maxmize their damage to this country early.

Expect them to be particularly vicious after the elections, especially if the Dems take control. They know there won't be enough of a majority to override Stupid's vetos, so they're going to do their worst.

Social security destruction, here we come!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:21 PM
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4. Saw it. Not one Democrat in sight.
Mfume's comments were lame, tame, and ignored the undeniable fact that this administration *has* tortured and that this new bill will likely allow it to go on.
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wagthedogwar Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:26 PM
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7. Doesn't matter what they do....
It's unconstitutional to pass retroactive laws to make things legal.

This is just gonna come back to bite them in the ass.

Make sure to defeat everyone that voted for this crap.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:27 PM
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8. And yeah these people adhere to the letter of the Constitution
NOT
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:53 PM
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9. That's the absolutel frightening essence of it all. nt
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 04:57 PM
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10. Filibuster.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:05 PM
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11. Those Democratic Senators MUST show us some Courage!
It's now or never!!! :nuke:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:52 PM
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14. Seems to me like they are choosing the latter. n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:06 PM
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12. There is no decency left in the world
These people claim to Christain and moral and are protecting America!
BULL SHIT!

I hope they all rot in hell right alongside bu$h and cheney.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 06:54 PM
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15. Then again, maybe they are Christian but you just think that
being a Christian is something other than what it really is.
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 05:17 PM
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13. GOP, WH Fashion "Framework of Agreement" over Torture
Update: GOP, WH Fashion "Framework of Agreement" over Torture
By Justin Rood - September 21, 2006, 5:25 PM
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001585.php

The White House and GOP members of Congress say they've reached some level of compromise to break the deadlock over detainee treatment legislation. The deal, however, does not appear to solve a key disagreement over the use of classified information in terror prosecutions.

White House adviser Steven Hadley called the deal struck between the White House and three conservative GOP senators a "framework of agreement," while Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) called it a “conceptual agreement.” Nothing has been signed, however, and no specifics have been confirmed.


One official said that under the agreement, the administration agreed to drop language that would have stated an existing ban on cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment was enough to meet Geneva Convention obligations. Convention standards are much broader and include a prohibition on "outrages" against "personal dignity."
In turn, this official said, negotiators agreed to clarify what acts constitute a war crime. The official spoke on condition of anonymity, saying he had not been authorized to discuss the details.

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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 07:12 PM
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16. How times have changed from when
Clinton couldn't even get a haircut without getting hassled by some oversight committee. Now the constitution can be re-written on a lazy afternoon and ignore the Geneva Conventions and nobody seems to give two shits.
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