How can we make collective frustration know to the Democratic Bigwigs?

[Armstead]

I'm serious. Where are those guys and gals lately?

Why are they not pounding the GOP upside the head lately, with ferocity?

They started to get hold of the Big Mo a little while back, but they're in the process of losing it again.

Rove's busy,busy busy. Democrats seem to be asleep at the wheel at the moment.

Torture? No problemo. Domestic spying? No worries mate. Bush on TV wall to wall? We don't have much to say. GOP going to get nastier? That's okay. Voters are discontented. We don't need to rally anyone. Possible war with Iran? Hey America won;t get fooled again.

There must be something beside the usual e-mail to do some collective tooshie prodding of the Democratic leadership.

[mmonk]

1. Send them a picture of Lieberman and say

remember the primaries? If they want their office, they have to listen or we will turn them out.

[chill_wind]

11. That's ONE interesting option. nt

[countryjake]

2. How about this....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2185950&mesg_id=2185950

[MannyGoldstein]

3. Forget It - They Really Don't Give a Crap

Face it - who the hell else are you gonna vote for? Ralph Nader?

The only thing that will work at this point is taking to the streets with pitchforks and torches - and we're way too lazy for that.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

4. We've TOLD them!

they just aren't listening. :(

[Armstead]

5. That's the frustration

Jeezum.

But forget us. They ought to be thinking of their own self-preservation.

If they want to keep their jobs they've got to come out swinging soon.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

7. I hope they understand....

some of us are only voting for them this time because we have to, not necessarily because they represent all of our opinions.

[zalinda]

6. After the 2006 election and we have

the majority..........let them have it with both barrels. But...until then, they are doing the best they can. The time to criticize them is after they win, not while they are running.

I don't know what is happening in your neck of the woods, but here Walsh(R) doesn't even seem like he is campaigning, he seems so sure he's going to win. But Maffei(D) is running a lot of commercials. I see more Maffei signs, and haven't seen one Walsh sign yet.

This is the time ALL dems hold together, not pick each other apart. As far as I'm concerned, this thread is more of the same dem bashing that greens and repubs start on here all the time.

zalinda

[chill_wind]

10. Yes, this IS the time for all Dems to hold together

-- and to hold accountable. No free pass on this!!

If the matter of torture and refusal to give the Bush regime legal amnesty isn't enough for a unified demand from **all of us** to them for moral and Constitution abiding leadership RIGHT NOW at this critical historic moment, then nothing-- nothing is!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

12. I don't know about that.

Given the monstrously high expectations many people here seem to have had of the Democrats even though they've been the minority party in both houses, with a Republican president and an unfriendly public, I'm not sure I want to see what massive demands are going to be made of the Democrats if they end up being in the majority.

Guys, don't expect a fucking miracle if we win back one, or both houses. Expect good things, yes. Demand them, even. But don't expect the moon & the starts & the sun. It took Bush and his assholes six years to break all this shit, and it's a lot easier to break things than put them back together.

Just sayin'...

[Armstead]

13. "After" we win?

I think you missed my point. I wasn't referring to the big questions -- although that is frustrating too. Complacently assuming that this year is in the bag is the problem. "When we win we can change things" is the kind of poop that we've been hearing every election cycle.

My point was that we have to get on the stick BEFORE the election, otherwise we're going to get our clocks cleaned once again. Rove and the GOP are putting on a full-court press, and it's starting to yield results.

Why, for example, has the only visible opposition to the horrific torture and surveillance legislation Bush has proposed been three GOP Senators who had a few little differences over legal terminology?

Is it politically strategic to allow them to throw out some basic Constitutional protections and violations of our basic national values?

[zalinda]

14. Because we don't own the media !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Armstead]

15. That's always one of the convenient excuses

I totally agree with you that the slanted coverage by the media is a big part of the problem.

However, we've got to stop making excuses. One reason the media is slanted is because Rove feeds them red meat, and knows how they operate. And the lazy media follows his lead.

The Democrats could counter that with more activist coordination. For example, get more of our really articulate and progressive Democrats on the talk shows to counter all the the GOPOers. Why is it always Biden and a small group of other tepid usual suspects on the talk shows?

And why not press to make issues like Universal Healthcare hot topics. Democrats ought to come up with a strategy to bombard the talk shows with OUR issues, rather than always reacting to what Rove wants to make as the issue of the week.

It can be done. The media may be biased -- but their bosses are not stupid. They know that they must answer to Democrats when and if the tables turn in this country...Or even if they don't turn, the Democrats still have the ability to make life difficult for them.

Rather than merely blaming the media, we ought to be taking tips from the Rove playbook, and generate our own issues.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

8. It is frustrating....

...mostly all of the evils we know about Bush now, we knew prior to the '04 elections.

Every Democrat politician -every anti-Bush organization soliciting for donations, promised to hold Bush accountable. What happened? It's a shame.

[spag68]

9. "democrat"

There are democratic politicians and we are democrats , but the use of democrat is incorrect in this case. Further some of the actions advocated here, while honest and even needed, would be political suicide.