10:10 a.m.: Bush And Mush Talk Terra

[sabra]

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?clip=/media/1998/01/01/video1.wmv

[ncrainbowgrrl]

1. LOL at the title of this thread.

Of course, I knew who was meant, but just looking at it, without knowing that there's a world leader who's name starts with "Mush", it's funny on the surface!

:hi:

[sabra]

2. the duo seem to be late? :-)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

3. starting on CSPAN now. nt

[notadmblnd]

4. two minute warning

I wish we had some Du'er that could read lips. I would love to know what Condi and the person she is setting next to are talking about.

[sabra]

5. the "program" will begin in 2 minutes

[sabra]

6. here we go...

[sabra]

7. Lar and I welcome Mushie

[sabra]

8. he appreciates Mushie

[notadmblnd]

11. admirs his leadership and courage

he cares when he see people suffering. people can embeder themselves when they promote economic development. impressed with education system. Was assured there would be free and fair elections in Pakistan. Takling about eating again.. Seems obsessed with meals. Having dinner with Mushy Karzi next week.

[sabra]

9. talked about how their Intel will work together

[sabra]

10. they talked about Democracy (about how neither country has one)

[sabra]

12. he has used "appreciate" 3 times already

[Jacobin]

16. No, that's "preeshates"

[sabra]

18. thanks :-)

[madokie]

17. more than likely he* doesn't even know what it means

[Solly Mack]

13. Why is that man still free?

You know, if America is so damned special, why is a war criminal President?

If America is so damned different from other countries, so much better, then why does America arrest for nothing, detain without due process, kidnap against the law, torture...just like all corrupt authoritarian governments throughout history?

If America actually lived up to it's hype, Bush would be in prison already.

[sabra]

14. Gen. Mush is up to bat

[sabra]

15. Mush bringing up Palestinian and Israel conflict...

[sabra]

19. Mush: Palestinian conflict is the heart of the issue... (interesting)

[Junkdrawer]

20. So, Mush, what kind of attack will we get this time? Dirty bombs...

a live nuke, or will you just knock down another skyscraper or two?

[sabra]

22. Mush: There will be no Taliban activity in Pakistan

[madokie]

37. You know, I think sometime that mush was in on 9/11

[Junkdrawer]

46. Look, just because the ISI paid the hijackers, hosted their training...

sites and provides a haven for al Qaeda to this day is no reason to suspect Pakistan's involvement in 9/11. What kind of crazy tinfoil hat thinking is that? Sheesh.

[madokie]

55. I'll go back under my rock now

its nice and warm under here. :-)

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

21. condi looks like she's about to nod off

[sabra]

23. 2 question for each

[sabra]

24. first question: bomb back to the stone age question!

[sabra]

25. Bush: this about the Armitage thing. First time he heard of this is

when he read the paper this morning

[sabra]

27. defending Mush

[radfringe]

32. huh? heard? read?

how can you HEAR a newspaper? maybe someone READ it to him?

[sabra]

35. good catch!

[Subdivisions]

26. His answer was a bald-faced lie. Jeezus!

[notadmblnd]

28. questions now..

would the US have actually attacked Pakistan? Armitage says that Pakistan was threatened.

bush: first I heard was when I read newspaper today and was taken aback. shortly after 911, colon powell said mushareff called and said he understands the stakes and was one of the first leaders to say the situation needed to be dealt with sharply. He doesn't know of any converstaion that was reported in the papers.. Just don't know anything about that. Mushareef says he was asked not to commet because of some book coming out... Georgie thinks he's funny.. in other words buy the book (laughter.

[City Lights]

29. What's so funny?

I didn't hear the question, but I'm hearing lots of laughing from our dear press corpse. :shrug:

[sabra]

31. Mush wouldn't answer the question, cause of his book deal

[City Lights]

38. Ah, I see. Thanks. eom

[Jacobin]

40. He probably farted

And the press corps is dutifully laughing at his potty oriented pranks.

They're very good lap dogs. Easy to train. Fuss at them a little when they misbehave and they'll put their ears down and slink away.

[sabra]

30. Mush: promotes his book? Won't talk until his book comes out

WTF?

[notadmblnd]

36. his way of avoiding telling the same lie as the little monkey just did?

nt

[City Lights]

48. And the press corpse giggles.

They're so useful...:eyes:

[sabra]

33. Bush: there's unbelievable propagandists in the ME

[Subdivisions]

34. Bush: "The extremisstss-tss-tss..."

[sabra]

39. Bush: I am the first president to articulate a two state solution

WTF?

[Subdivisions]

41. He coudn't articulate his way out of a wet paper bag

[radfringe]

54. READ THIS - bush articulated nothing!!!

TWO-STATE SOLUTIONS WAS IN THE WORKS BEFORE BUSH WAS CORONATED!!!!

Please note 2 things:
---- THE DATES
---- The absence of BUSH's NAME anywhere on these pages....

Introduction
The Clinton Bridging Proposals for Final Settlement
December 2000
http://www.mideastweb.org/clintonproposal.htm

Following the failure of talks at Camp David in July and the outbreak of violence in September of 2000, Israeli PM Ehud Barak resigned December 10. Nonetheless, in a last minute effort to read a settlement between the sides, negotiators met at Bolling Air Force Base in the USA as guests of US President Clinton. On December 20, Israeli Foreign Minister Shlomo Ben-Ami and PA negotiator Saeb Erekat met in the White House with President Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. These talks did not produce results. On December 23, President Clinton made a bridging offer summarizing the differences between the sides and proposing the resolution of each issue as stated below. He asked for replies by December 27. Clinton subsequently (January 7) reported that both sides had accepted the proposals as a basis for further negotiations. The proposals as they appeared in various sources are not detailed.. They do not include maps, and seem to refer to principles for dividing up the territory rather than detailed borders, though other sources have produced a map that supposedly accompanied the Clinton bridging proposal. The proposals allude to an international force, but the nature or role of this force is not elaborated.

The account below was released in the Israeli press and is generally accepted as correct. It is not official. No official document was released.

Ami Isseroff

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The Clinton Parameters
December 23rd, 2000
http://www.fmep.org/resources/peace_plans/clinton_parameters.html

(Note: After the failure of the Camp David Summit in July, 2000 to achieve a peace agreement between Israeli and Palestinian delegations led, respectively, by Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian President Yasser Arafat, negotiations continued between the two sides and gaps between the parties on various issues were narrowed, but there was no comprehensive agreement.

In a last ditch effort, U.S. President Bill Clinton offered the following "Parameters" on December 23 to Israeli and Palestinian negotiators at a meeting in the White House. President Clinton's "Parameters" were not the terms of a final deal, but guidelines for final accelerated negotiations he hoped could be concluded in the coming weeks. He said his terms would not be binding on his successor when he would leave office in January 2001.

Arafat, after a delay, accepted the Clinton parameters, but with questions and reservations. Barak accepted the parameters, but Israel's position was also equivocal. The parameters laid the foundation for the final negotiations that took place in January 2001 at Taba before the election of Ariel Sharon in February 2001 that effectively ended the peace process. )

[sabra]

42. Reuters: asks about the tribal deal made by Mush

[sabra]

44. Bush: when UBL is found he will be brought to justice (LOL)

[City Lights]

43. They're huntin' together.

Swell. Where's Dick when we need 'im? :evilgrin:

[notadmblnd]

45. we're ona hunt, together

all I can tell you is when OBL is found, he will be brought to justice, MUSH: we are on the hunt together. if we find his location, we are quite clear on what to do. Theres co-ordingation at all operational and stratigic levels, so we are working together.

[sabra]

47. Bush looking @ Mush and thinking keep spinning my friend

[sabra]

49. Bush blown away from a Pak reporter asking real questions...

[City Lights]

52. Bush "blown away" by a Pak reporter...

...insert fart joke here...

;-)

[sabra]

50. Bush: US can't force countries to make an agreement.

LOL

[notadmblnd]

51. big heavy sigh from bush: Phew

he's encouraged by the meetings that India and Pakistan have had to resolve long standing problem. Long standing peace can only be achived by willing leaders. Mush has reached out to leaders of India. Asked Mushy what US can do to help India and Pakistan to achieve peace. done and over.. bush again.. buy the book.

[sabra]

53. it's over... Bush to Mush: good job; Bush to press: Buy the book