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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 09:50 AM
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Poll question: Do you like the idea of other nations telling the U.S. what to do?
Not in regards to any specific situation and not in regards to any specific president. Just in general. What's your gut reaction to a political leader from China or France or Panama criticizing the United States, assuming you agree with the substance of the criticism.

Bryant
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 09:52 AM
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1. If the US government is being moronic
then I'm all for a rhetorical slap upside our nations head.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:05 AM
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2. Not anymore than what I am sure they like us telling them what to do.
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:08 AM
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4. Yeah, it sucks when the world tells us not to torture or bomb people
Edited on Fri Sep-22-06 10:14 AM by IChing
How dare they? If I want to beat my wife or my dog it is none of your business

:sarcasm:
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:12 AM
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7. Yeah the bitch probably had it coming anyway.
For the sarcasm impaired this statement was meant to be sarcastic. :sarcasm:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:07 AM
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3. If we have the right to
say anything we want about any other country (france, iran, korea) and if we have the right to illegally invade a sovereign country.........you fill in the blank.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:12 AM
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5. Yeah but if it is wrong for us to do those things
isn't it wrong for others to do them to us? It's one or the other isn't it?

If it is wrong for us to lecture other nations, than it is wrong for other nations to lecture us.

If it is ok for us to lecture other nations, than it is ok for othern ations to lecture us.

Bryant
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:43 AM
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12. It's ok
For us to lecture other nations. Its part of diplomacy.

But is not ok to invade other nations. The two things are total opposites.

Chavez has every right to lecture us. Just the same as you, no more, no less. But come into my home with bad intent? All hell's gonna break loose. And I'd be perfectly right.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:19 AM
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14. Exactamundo!!
Good fill in the blank
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 01:38 PM
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17. nations telling the U.S. what to do? - You mean like Israel?? - NO!
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:12 AM
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6. Considering Cheney and Bush would love to be able drop you in a volcano
if you go against their lies and death-cult, then yes I welcome outsiders to save us.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:13 AM
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8. The federal government doesn't represent me, so I don't give a damn
Edited on Fri Sep-22-06 10:15 AM by Selatius
If a whole gang of European leaders wanted to give Bush non-stop messages about how his policies are abject failures and that it's creating more instability in the world and that he's exhibiting authoritarian tendencies, then I could not care less.

If anything, it will just make Bush pissed off, and we may finally see the day where he is screaming in front of a podium and pumping his fists in the air like a latter-day Adolf Hitler because he takes criticism so poorly no matter how constructive and valid it may be.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:17 AM
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9. the US currently is incapable of behaving morally or responsibly
or in the best interests of humanity

so, it is sadly necessary for other nations to tell us what to do

it's better than the faceless oligarchs who secretly tell the current government what to do every minute.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:19 AM
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10. criticizing the United States
isn't telling the USA what to do . Telling them what to do is shades of "if you don't do this we will do that " I sometimes wonder if that's what will ultimately be necessary with trade as the lever i.e. we will neither export to you nor import from you.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:20 AM
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11. Thanks for the out on that ambiguous poll
I don't have a problem with anyone criticizing the US,
because I believe in FREE SPEECH.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:50 AM
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13. Believing in Free Speech doesn't mean you can't criticize that speech.
Or say that somebody shouldn't say it. It just means you aren't allowed to take action to silence that speech.

Bryant
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 01:35 PM
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16. That may be good enough for you
I set my standards higher.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:22 PM
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19. So does free speech mean that
. . . say, a vegetarion not only could but should walk into a steakhouse and denounce everybody. Or a baptist walk into a mosque and denounce everybody.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:27 PM
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20. Never mind
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:51 PM
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21. Nice
I like people who don't feel their arguments are worth standing up for.

Bryant

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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:59 PM
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22. I have a problem arguing with vegetables
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:16 PM
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23. I see your point - if I had a weak argument
I would want to skip the actual arguing part too.

Bryant
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 11:33 AM
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15. Is the Nation-State the final arbiter of
discussion or do smaller groups have legit beefs?

For example: The only official langauge of France is French but there is a push to allow the areas of France which have long histories to use their own dialect of the Oil Lang Family. Spain has already voted intself into more of a Confederation (allowing a Basque homeland is getting close). Breton & Gallo are resurging in Brittany, the Kurds want a Kurdistan (which is a topice for another thread and has been discussed ad nauseum)

Anyone is free to criticize but problems come up when a power in the Security Council uses it's position to get UN sanctions on the lesser countries.

Anyway since I'm strea-of-consciousness writing here it's unclear but I choose: I Like to Vote.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 01:41 PM
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18. Turnabout is fair play
I cannot recall a time in my 50+ years when the U.S. DIDN'T try to boss other countries around.
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Keepontruking Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:22 AM
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24. Let me Understand this????????????
The US tells everybody else and we pass judgment but we can't
take it ....that's the point being made here ...aren't we the
big ones and full of ourselves??????//

Circus Girl

Try listening and be quiet at times it does a soul good.
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