Paul Thompson's research refers to the threat to Pakistan.

[madfloridian]

Of course his Cooperative Research timeline, a great resource was written after the fact....but I know I saw more references before this week to those threats to bomb Pakistan into the Stone Age.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&startpos=1500#a091101mahmoodextended

"September 11-16, 2001: Pakistan Threatened; Promises to Support US ISI Director Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmed, extending his Washington visit because of the 9/11 attacks , meets with US officials and negotiates Pakistan’s cooperation with the US against al-Qaeda. It is rumored that later in the day of 9/11 and again the next day, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage visits Mahmood and offers him the choice: “Help us and breathe in the 21st century along with the international community or be prepared to live in the Stone Age.” Secretary of State Powell presents Mahmood seven demands as an ultimatum and Pakistan supposedly agrees to all seven. Mahmood also has meetings with Senator Joseph Biden (D), Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Secretary of State Powell, regarding Pakistan’s position. On September 13, the airport in Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan, is shut down for the day. A government official later says the airport had been closed because of threats made against Pakistan’s “strategic assets,” but does not elaborate. The next day, Pakistan declares “unstinting” support for the US, and the airport is reopened. It is later suggested that Israel and India threatened to attack Pakistan and take control of its nuclear weapons if Pakistan did not side with the US. It is later reported that Mahmood’s presence in Washington was a lucky blessing; one Western diplomat saying it “must have helped in a crisis situation when the US was clearly very, very angry.”

Entity Tags: Richard Armitage, Pakistan, Mahmood Ahmed, Colin Powell, Joseph Biden, al-Qaeda"

Paul lists all the sources of the material. Still looking for reference from 2001.

[notadmblnd]

1. This post is a keeper

thanks.

[RamboLiberal]

2. And goes to proove how f'ing lazy is the U.S. MSM

Kudos to Paul Thompson!

And to MSM you have tools like never before - no excuses for you!

[madfloridian]

3. Trying to find more...but the search is hard.

I have to search with the -afghanistan, because we threatened to bomb them to the stone age as well. It is hard to find stuff from 2001.

[Oilwellian]

4. Ah yes, General Ahmed

The same General Ahmed that wired Atta $100 grand just weeks before 9/11.

[Straight Shooter]

5. All this info coming out to make Armitage look like a loose cannon.

When in fact he is a carefully loaded and deliberately aimed gun.

Anything about Armitage, I consider to be an orchestrated distraction to turn attention away from Cheney and Rove.

As for Paul Thompson, there are very few who equal his persistence and diligence in research. :thumbsup:

[madfloridian]

10. I agree about that.

It does appear Armitage is getting a lot of blame right now while GWB stands beside Musharaff and seems amazed. He wasn't even convincing, though.

[Roland99]

6. Wonder if Mahmood was in the US handling some drug deals?

And I wonder what Sibel knows about him.

[lukery]

27. sibel has pointed

to him, and those meetings, before

[seemslikeadream]

7. Buddies

BUDDY BUDDY

DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER WATCH THIS VIDEO

http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html

[madfloridian]

8. I just noticed the sources did not show..

They were in parentheses and that voids them from showning.

Deutsche Presse-Agentur (Hamburg), 9/12/2001 Is the source for this statement above:

"It is rumored that later in the day of 9/11 and again the next day, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage visits Mahmood and offers him the choice: “Help us and breathe in the 21st century along with the international community or be prepared to live in the Stone Age.”

And this is the source:

LA Weekly, 11/9/2001

for this statement.

"On September 13, the airport in Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan, is shut down for the day. A government official later says the airport had been closed because of threats made against Pakistan’s “strategic assets,” but does not elaborate. The next day, Pakistan declares “unstinting” support for the US, and the airport is reopened. It is later suggested that Israel and India threatened to attack Pakistan and take control of its nuclear weapons if Pakistan did not side with the US."

[madfloridian]

9. Found the original 2001 article from LA Weekly.

I am not familiar with the author, but the article brings out that it caused much discord in Pakistan to cooperate with the US. I remember knowing about this before Musharaff mentioned it this week, and I wondered why the media was going crazy over it. :shrug:

http://www.laweekly.com/news/new-world-disorder/unholy-ends/10781/

New World Disorder Unholy Ends
By Ali Ahmed Rind

"The choice is up to you,” Colin Powell’s right-hand man, Richard Armitage, is said to have told Lieutenant General Mahmood Ahmed, who has since been replaced as chief of Pakistan’s intelligence agency, during a September 11 visit to Pakistan’s embassy in Washington. “Help us and breathe in the 21st century along with the international community or be prepared to live in the Stone Age.” President Pervez Musharraf repeated this message to his fellow countrymen who came to listen to his entreaty after his decision to support the U.S. in its war on Taliban obscurantism and the megalomaniac Osama.

The choice has created great discord in my country and could bring us to the brink of civil war. Pakistan is a country that came into being in the name of religion; ä its military has been the self-appointed custodian of faith. Since the inception of Pakistan in 1947, Pakistan and India have been virtually on a war footing. After three full-scale wars, Pakistan is now half the country it used to be."

We used to wonder here at DU at the strange alliance with Pakistan. How odd they would be an ally.

[bigtree]

11. Bush 'taken aback' - Bullshit.

"Armitage said Friday that he never made such a threat and that he was not authorized to make any threats during that meeting. "I never made a threat in my life that I couldn't back up," he said on CNN. "Since I wasn't authorized to say such a thing, hence, I couldn't back up that threat."

Bush also said that he "was taken aback by the harshness of the words" of the purported threat, and doubted that events unfolded that way. He said he recalled that Musharraf was "one of the first leaders to step up and say that the stakes have changed."

Armitage did recall telling Pakistan's leaders they had to make a choice between supporting the Taliban and supporting the United States

http://www.iht.com/bin/print.php?id=2910296


Bush's Moderation Ultimatum (9-23-2006)

[bigtree]

12. kick

:kick:

[elehhhhna]

13. More here:

Bush reads 2001 newspaper today, Friday Morning? CAUGHT IN ANOTHER LIE!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2196493&mesg_id=2196493

[chat_noir]

14. UK's Telegraph reported it in 2001

Bush finalises battle plan
(Filed: 16/09/2001)

...

The US demanded that Pakistan shares all its intelligence on bin Laden and the Taliban, an organisation which it created in 1994 and is still funding. Pakistan should also make available airspace to US warplanes and take action to cut off funding to any group allied to bin Laden, and to close its border with Afghanistan.

If Pakistan failed to comply, US officials warned that the country ran the risk of being bombed in any future military action taken against Islamic terrorists. "We have been left with no doubt," said a senior Pakistan official.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/16/wusa16.xml

[madfloridian]

16. And our media in the US is all ga ga about it. Clueless media.

I think we even discussed it here at DU at the time, not sure.

Our media is pathetic in pretending they never heard of it.

[chat_noir]

15. just for the hell of it...

Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks

DOHA, Qatar (CNN) -- Islamic militant leader Osama bin Laden, the man the United States considers the prime suspect in last week's terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, denied any role Sunday in the actions believed to have killed thousands.

In a statement issued to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, bin Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it.

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said.

...

Immediately after the attacks that demolished the World Trade Center's landmark twin towers and seriously damaged the Pentagon, officials of Afghanistan's ruling Taliban said they doubted bin Laden could have been involved in carrying out the actions.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/

[petgoat]

17. Movie about Paul Thompson's Pakistan Work

Trailer: http://www.911pressfortruth.com/

Click on "showings" (and pull the side slug down) to see if there's
a screening near you.

[madfloridian]

18. Was Paul on Randi Rhodes recently?

It seems like he was, and I think we missed it.

[Nikki Stone 1]

19. kick

:kick:

[proud patriot]

20. yes he was on week before last

I'll see if I can find it

[RandiRhodesArchives]

23. how about this?

http://wilem.com/rrs/interviews/rrs_20060907_paulthompson.mp3">CLICK HERE!

[madfloridian]

26. Thanks, checking it out.

:hi:

[proud patriot]

21. here it is

Sep-12-06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2118675

[lukery]

28. twice

http://www.911podcasts.com/files/audio/RandiRhodes_PaulThompson_NORAD_080206.mp3

and http://911pressfortruth.com/file_download/7

[Jcrowley]

22. Thanks

K&R



http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060921&articleId=3294

[The Straight Story]

24. I have a govt link noting the meeting in passing

From listserv

Office of the Historian
Bureau of Public Affairs
November 6, 2001



http://lists.state.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-USIAINFO.EXE?A2=ind0111a&L=dosfacts&D=1&P=367


During a special briefing at the State Department, Powell expressed his sympathy to other nations who had lost citizens in the destruction of the World Trade Center and declared that "terrorism is a crime against all civilization." He said that the United States had provided Pakistan with a list of areas for cooperation, and he intended to discuss that list with President Musharraf. Deputy Secretary of State Richard L. Armitage had already spoken with Pakistani representatives. Powell also had spoken with the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Israel, and with Chairman Yasir Arafat in an effort to promote a cease-fire between Israel and the Palestinians. Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz said that a response to the terrorist attacks would be a sustained military campaign, "with the full resources of the U.S. Government." The State Department announced that Deputy Secretary of State Armitage, Assistant Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs Elizabeth Jones, Assistant Secretary of State for South Asian Affairs Christina Rocca, and Counterterrorism Coordinator Francis Taylor would visit Moscow and Brussels on September 19-20 to discuss cooperation against terrorism. The meeting in Moscow would include a meeting of a bilateral Afghan Working Group. Secretary of the Treasury Paul O'Neill said that disruptions to the U.S. economy resulting from terrorist attacks would be short-term, and prospects for a recovery remained good. The New York Stock Exchange was to reopen on September 17.

[The Straight Story]

25. One more for people to look into:

http://lists.state.gov/SCRIPTS/WA-USIAINFO.EXE?A0=dosfacts&D=1

U.S.Department of State Fact Sheets
Goes back to May 2001.