Bin Laden died in Pakistan? How come we haven't heard this?

[Philosoraptor]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14963302/

PARIS - A French regional newspaper quoted a French secret service report on Saturday as saying that Saudi Arabia is convinced that al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden died of typhoid in Pakistan last month.

“According to a usually reliable source, the Saudi services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead,” the document said.

“The information gathered by the Saudis indicates that the head of al-Qaida was a victim while he was in Pakistan on Aug. 23, 2006, of a very serious case of typhoid which led to a partial paralysis of his internal organs.”

The report, which was stamped with a “confidential defense” label and the initials of the French secret service, said Saudi Arabia first heard the information on Sept. 4 and that it was waiting for more details before making an official announcement.

-----------

Of course, the French are known as congenital liars and rude waiters, and anything you hear from them is probably dubious at best, as our media is the only one that tells the truth.

If he's dead, why no big splashy announcement and holiday? I wonder if good ol' American spinach killed him?

[ikojo]

1. Mid term elections..thtey're playing

the bin laden card to frighten Americans. A dead bin laden can't help the pugs stay in power.

[Philosoraptor]

2. So we're pretending he's still out there terrifying us, knowing he's dead

That would be disingenuous of uncle sam to say the least.

[Syrinx]

3. and "we" probably have the frozen body

Just sayin'.

[Philosoraptor]

4. Instructions: Place frozen body in cave, Drop bomb, Viola! We got Osama

[Syrinx]

26. I like the viola touch

Ha.

[Sabriel]

55. Perhaps "Drop bomb, Enola" was intended.

Besides, hitting someone with a viola is only going to damage the viola. They're pretty fragile.

[ikojo]

5. This IS the BUSH administration, people by folks

who "encouraged" Iran to hold hostages to ensure a Reagan victory.

[Philosoraptor]

6. Heads up

no shit, i remember how reagan got in, by holding the truth and the hostages until it was politcally perfect.

[autorank]

7. Look, he can't be dead. He hasn't done the video yet!!!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm:
"My Weekend at Ladin's"
Try to stay within the parameters of the current news story line. He can't die until he does
the threatening video. Then there's a Jessica Lynch type extraction, except unlike Jessica,
who is an honest person (that's not sarcastic, she is) Mr. Ladin won't spill the beans. He'll
be in a video cage carted around the video town square of "the Homeland." There will be a great
sign of relief but small crowds observing. Then he'll acquire something deadly, but we'll know
that he'd been roughed up so badly it was probably due to that torture bill the "gentleman's
club" voted for yesterday. It's got a certain order to it, requirements, script integrity.

[Philosoraptor]

8. soon his bloody battered face will be on all our screens and magazines

[autorank]

10. We'll be saved by torture..there will be a new discipline-"tortured logic"

[Philosoraptor]

12. before he croaked we extracted valuable info on the war on terror

of course, he wasn't tortured, just waterboarded to death. Now folks will be angry because Osama died a free man. bush will counteract by saying that Osama died on the run.

[autorank]

16. info that saved lives which proves "no pain, no gain"

[HuffleClaw]

9. so much for a rove-ian stunt with his HEAD

lets see how they react to this.

[Raksha]

11. When exactly did the Pakistanis announce that they would no longer

actively pursue Al-Qaeda? They said Osama could stay in Pakistan as long as he behaves himself...well there's not too much chance of bad behavior if he's DEAD!!! It wasn't long ago--I think at the beginning of this month but I'm not sure. Anyway, a timeline on this would be interesting.

[bigbrother05]

13. Just what I was thinking.

[Philosoraptor]

14. if Musharef protected Osama, why is he still bush's buddy?

things that make you theorize about conspriacies.

[autorank]

20. They met once in Bohemian Grove under the Illumination of the

Golden Dawn. It's a "Southern Cross" thing, you wouldn't understand:evilgrin:

[Philosoraptor]

21. "Wa wa, sa sa, fa fa". that's the secret word y'know

I'm a member in good standing, but now i'll have to be killed of course.

[RC]

46. By jove I think you have a clue!

:bounce:

[Philosoraptor]

15. If the Saudis knew this, I'm sure they told their pal dubya

[Philosoraptor]

17. more on the story:

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n96380

Paris. A document of the French Foreign Intelligence Service (DGSE), cited by l'Est Républicain claims that the Saudi secret services had proves that Al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden was dead, Reuters announced. More details were expected from Riad so that they could spread the news. The French authorities refuse to comment the news but last week the Chief of French Armed Forces General announced that he was not sure whether Osama Bin Laden was alive. According to the information of the Saudi services Bin Laden died on 23rd August from typhus while in Pakistan. The French intelligence thought the information was quite reliable and that was why they had sent it to the President, the Prime Minister and to the ministers of interior and defense, the publication points out.

[Philosoraptor]

18. some reports suggest he's been dead for three years

and musharef knows where he's buried

[Philosoraptor]

19. MANY more headlines on the story here:

http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=bin+laden+dead&c=

[Bluebear]

23. Excellent, bring all the soldiers home now, we 'won'.

OK, Bushites?

[Philosoraptor]

25. Oh no y'don't-- we don't get off the hook that easy.

The war ain't over till all the oil is sucked up.

[blogslut]

22. Deja Vu all over again?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/07/17/attack/main515468.shtml

FBI Official Thinks Bin Laden Is Dead

WASHINGTON, July 17, 2002

Bin Laden's Status

"I personally think he is probably not with us anymore but I have no evidence to support that."
FBI counterterrorism chief
Dale Watson

(CBS) FBI counterterrorism chief Dale Watson said Wednesday he believes Osama bin Laden is dead — the first time a senior U.S. law enforcement official has publicly given an opinion on the al Qaeda leader's status.

Watson, speaking at a conference of law enforcement officials at a downtown hotel, quickly emphasized that he had no evidence that bin Laden was dead, but his comments suggest that the FBI has no intelligence that proves bin Laden is alive.

"Is (bin Laden) alive or is he dead?" Watson said. "I am not really sure of the answer ... I personally think he is probably not with us anymore but I have no evidence to support that."

Watson also said that bin Laden's network of terrorist training camps has been dismantled, but "there is no question in my mind ... we will be attacked again."

If this is the October surprise, it's lame.

[Philosoraptor]

24. Lame, but maybe good enough to win a close election.

[blogslut]

27. How?

How is letting that bastard die of typhoid going to help them? Closure baaby. We still ain't got it.

[Philosoraptor]

28. by making it look like we killed him

or spinning it to say he died on the run, a wanted, sick man in defeat. or some such shit.

his base will swallow any notion, but they'll vote for him anyway.

He's failed to get Osama for five straight years, yet they still love him.

[blogslut]

30. And "they"

are the minority.

[windbreeze]

57. What? couldn't we get him into the hospital in Dubai....

again in time to cure him?
windbreeze

[autorank]

29. The man's consistent...

1) Thinks Binnie is dead but "no evidence" and
2) Camps are dismantled but "no question ... we will be attacked again."

And for his next trick, our Counter terrorism chief will say

3) He also thinks * was re-elected but he "lack any evidence for that claim either."

[tocqueville]

31. here is the original article, the DGSE doesn't want to confirm

http://www.estrepublicain.fr/zoom/2006092300222348.html

here is a comment in Le Monde

http://www.lemonde.fr/web/article/0,1-0@2-3216,36-816037@51-801453,0.html

interesting is the last part from the General Bentegeat, who is the highest military in France and has commanded the French special forces in Afghanistan. A couple of weeks ago he said that "OBL is certainly not in Afghanistan" and "nobody is sure he is still alive, we haven't heard of him for several long months"....

[Philosoraptor]

32. Behind all the lies is what they are not telling us.

They lie constantly, but they also hide facts that would counteract the lies.

Sad that we must look to the European media to get any facts not tainted by propaganda.

[Philosoraptor]

33. not surprised, not october

[lala_rawraw]

34. at the news conference today...

Bush still pretended... there is no way the Saudi regime kept this info away from US

[muriel_volestrangler]

35. It's all a bit "War of the Worlds", isn't it?

"Bullets can't kill them, it'll have to be the bacteria."

[Philosoraptor]

36. bush: "he died on the run, a broken, hunted animal"

bush will claim this as a victory in the war on terror and his base will cream their jeans.

[Bluebear]

38. The Head That Wouldn't Die!

[autorank]

42. I'll see that brain and raise you another head.... (mature audiences only)

[Bluebear]

53. BRAVO!! nt

[Philosoraptor]

37. people say believe half of what you see, & none of what you hear

Marvin Gay

[autorank]

39. It's a grand life if you don't falter, I'm told...

[mroux]

40. Bin Laden dead? Karl Rove's October "surprise"?

Just wondering............

[autorank]

43. Surprise to everybody here, probably not in Pakistan...

Maybe that's why the President of Pakistan is being so random. He's knows that "they knws"... this has a multitude of twists and turns...I like "My Weekend at Binnies" myself..

[SPKrazy]

56. I Wanna See A Body

and I wanna see it now!

[newyawker99]

52. Hi mroux!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[malaise]

41. But, but, but

he died in Egypt years ago.

[symbolman]

44. He's NOT DEAD

PAUL was the WALRUS.. will people never get it straight?

It was explained years ago - and it will take people with a few years under their belts to get the inference made here :)

On the other hand he could be hanging in a meat locker with freezer burn for the last 5 years, waiting for the day when Americans would torch the White House once Bush had made us into World Wide Pariahs, advocating TORTURE and killing people whenever he felt like it, installing Kangaroo courts where you can't possibly WIN, and then are hanged, that kind of thing.

Our poor White House was burned down by the British not all that long ago, anyone know about that? I heard that's why it's NOW officially the WHITE HOUSE - they painted it WHITE after the blaze.. I'm just hoping that Bush doesn't leave his Nintendo machine plugged into an old wireing system in the basement or something, then blame any blaze on Citizens, saying they were trying to burn him out in protest... instead of terrorist electricians from the 1800s :)

I think they've already killed Bin Laden, and have cloned multiple copies of him, and those clones have to be AGED before we can trot them out and kill them as needed for Republican Holidays like 911.. that's why they are always capturing and killing the NUMBER TWO AL Queda guys, CLONING :)

[autorank]

48. I think you are on to sometihng...."The War on Horror"

Dump the holidays, go to "Horror Days"...it's all about death and misery preceding death.

We do need a new national hero to fight "the Horror." As with most everybody, I find * totally unacceptable.

It's time to bring back a real man to do a man's job...

[Roland99]

45. Anyone notice the NAME of the French paper? "L'Est Republicain"

[autorank]

47. The "them" people...they're everywhere...."tortured logic intl."

[baldguy]

49. Because Big Brother needs his Emmanuel Goldstein.

[seabeyond]

50. could be true or NOT. a reason to shut down a month ago

a reason for all the pakistan stuff of late. and bush could hold it til oct

[Patsy Stone]

51. Dead AGAIN?

How many times can one man die? :eyes:

I'm waiting for the picture of him in a gilded frame...

[SPKrazy]

54. Next: US Unmanned Aerial Vehicles Poisoned His Water Supply

with typhus

they will find some way to take credit for this

"We had him on the run, so he got sick"

[ProgressiveEconomist]

58. Consider the TIMING of this plant: "OBL, please report to the white courtesy...

phone" won't work. IMO, someone may want OBL to make another appearance a few weeks before another crucial election. Planting a rumor that he's dead would in all likelihood make OBL want to pop up and announce, "No I'm not!"

Planing such a rumor would fit in perfectly with the Rove "scare 'em" strategy we've seen twice before, this time of year in 2002 and 2004. But it could backfire if Democrats and 9-11 victims' families keep reminding voters of Dubya's five years of flip-flops on the need to bring OBL to justice.