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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:00 PM
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C-Span: William Kristol on with PNAC'ers saying Bush too weak...
Kristol is grinning his way through an incredible spin to a PNAC supporting group at Claremont College.

He says Bush went wrong in his second term by being too weak in his foreign policy. He's advocating doing something about Iran in months to make sure that their Dominance will be stopped.

He was raving his way through the 20th Century telling lies about Korea and Vietnam and I listened as long as I could before I had to turn it off. Christopher Hitchens is also on the panel and he will be up next.

These people are really Crazy.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:03 PM
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1. Kristol is barking mad.
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 03:03 PM by ocelot
He's batshit crazy; he's always got that demented grin on his face while he spouts the looniest stuff. Throw in that rabid drunk Hitchens and you really have a circus of fools. Why are these people not locked up in an asylum somewhere?
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:30 PM
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3. That's why he is on our TeeVee.
That's why he's a "respected" pundit.

Any reasonable person (with perhaps the exception of Keith Olberman) is not allowed on the "public" airwaves.

This country has gone insane.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:16 PM
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2. No wonder Galloway decribes Hitchens as a drunken
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 03:41 PM by malaise
popinjay. What an opinionated pretentious git.

Edit -sp.
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EarthNeedsHope Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:33 PM
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4. This is the Nazi wing of the Republican Party
The ones who Bush is too left wing for.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:34 PM
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5. I really can't stand that guy! And who is going to do something to
make sure that our Dominance will be stopped? Oh that's right, we ARE the good guys! :puke:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:38 PM
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6. Does Bush know his PNAC sycophants are starting to stab
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 03:38 PM by Cleita
him in the back? I love it. The loonier they come across, the less support he will have for his dreams of conquering the world. Of course the Claremont colleges are known for being run and attended by right wing moonbats.
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peaches2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:38 PM
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7. Got it
Thanks for the heads up. I need to get the blood boiling this afternoon.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:49 PM
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8. Ok, then. Let's give Kristol a rifle, some ammo, a uniform
and drop him in the middle of Tehran. He can then "do something" about Iran.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:00 PM
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9. Good Idea.
:evilgrin:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:04 PM
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11. He'd crap his pants!
:rofl:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:08 PM
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12. His whole introduction was given as if he had lived through the whole
20th Century and therefore he was an AUTHORITY on how WEAK America had been!

Sadly the guy probably grew up with Sesame Street! Neither he nor anyone else on that panel ever wore a uniform. Those of us who had family members who fought in WWII and KOREA know that the "graves" must be rattling with them turning over to hear the Lies these PNAC'ers are spouting.

The only good thing is that this was NOT very well attended. So many empty chairs in that room for such high powered Idiots. Claremont College is very Conservative...they couldn't get better attendance than maybe 50 people for the GREAT ARCHITECTS OF WAR in the NEW 21st CENTURY?

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:50 PM
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13. LOL!
Why stop with him? Let's parachute the whole lot of them in there including President Fighter Pilot.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:45 PM
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19. they don't make uniforms that small
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:03 PM
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10. I turned back on for the "Q&A" OMG! Woman asks if we shouldn't have
bombed more civilians in initial Iraq Invasion? She asked if we were too careful in our "Precision Bombing."

Then Hitchens is raving that the Christians are a "Fifth Column" who have always been responsible for stopping "US" in what "WE" want to do." (paraphrasing his remark but he's dissing Christians for not wanting to do what "they" want to do? :eyes: i.e. what the PNAC has wanted to do? Is the PNAC now a WORLD CULT who is against Christianity? The audience laughed and applauded his comments!

Kristol was completely out of it ...and Mark Halperin was complaining that the Iraq Invasion didn't have ENOUGH Shock and Awe because the Turks prodded by the French didn't allow us to use their bases. If we'd used their bases we could have come into Iraq like Patton and caused huge Shock and Awe.

These people are what are driving Bush and Cheney!

They also agreed that the New York Times is a Left Wing Rag and that if you want to know what Dems are thinking then read the NYT's! :rofl: Calling Judith Miller and Ahmed Chalibi...please!

They are lunatics...or worse..than evil itself. And, their audience are people that would kill the rest of us because they LOVE "Collateral Damage." :scared:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:58 PM
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14. They're not crazy
they're mean, cruel, sadistic and greedy. As long as they prosper it doesn't matter to them who they hurt. I would love a chance to get in a boxing ring with just one on these supposedly brave Americans. Limbaugh, Kristol, O'Lielly, Hannity, Beck, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc, etc, I would be happy to go toe to toe with any of these "tough guys".
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:58 PM
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15. These people are mad...
and they are determined to bomb Iran regardless and they will be unleashing a living hell they claim that we have ten cells in americak, so what will happen when they start bombing?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:02 PM
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16. They are not happy until they have ADOLF HITLER
If Bush were as competent as Adolf, Bush would already be liquidating anti-war activists and Arab Americans.

Next on his list would be Greens, democratic socialists, trade unionists, and finally fringe liberal Democrats.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:04 PM
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17. What does a right-winger have to do in this country to be discredited?
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 05:06 PM by Marr
Bill Kristol has been deeply, staggeringly WRONG about everything he's pontificated about. I'd say that suggests his analysis isn't worth a damn, and his opinions should be ignored.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:33 PM
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18. Have an abortion? Hang children in public?
I dunno.. the bar on being discredited seems somewhat ...high...

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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 09:13 PM
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20. Maybe they have plans in the works for eliminating him, soon.
With Israel gearing up to strike Iran, that would be the perfect deciding-event over here, to justify our joining in all the fun over there. Of course some stoolie like Lee Harvey (or Ali Havidub Oswala, I mean) would be needed to blame such things on, so the vengeance-mode could be properly set.

I will never underestimate what guys of that cabal like Kristol are capable of. I don't believe for one minute that their disastrous agenda has been set aside. He wasn't shown on C-Span for nothing.
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