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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 09:43 AM
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A must read article by Ariel Dorfman in the Washington Post
By Ariel Dorfman
Sunday, September 24, 2006; Page B01

DURHAM, N.C.

It still haunts me, the first time -- it was in Chile, in October of 1973 -- that I met someone who had been tortured. To save my life, I had sought refuge in the Argentine Embassy some weeks after the coup that had toppled the democratically elected government of Salvador Allende, a government for which I had worked. And then, suddenly, one afternoon, there he was. A large-boned man, gaunt and yet strangely flabby, with eyes like a child, eyes that could not stop blinking and a body that could not stop shivering.

That is what stays with me -- that he was cold under the balmy afternoon sun of Santiago de Chile, trembling as though he would never be warm again, as though the electric current was still coursing through him. Still possessed, somehow still inhabited by his captors, still imprisoned in that cell in the National Stadium, his hands disobeying the orders from his brain to quell the shuddering, his body unable to forget what had been done to it just as, nearly 33 years later, I, too, cannot banish that devastated life from my memory.

It was his image, in fact, that swirled up from the past as I pondered the current political debate in the United States about the practicality of torture. Something in me must have needed to resurrect that victim, force my fellow citizens here to spend a few minutes with the eternal iciness that had settled into that man's heart and flesh, and demand that they take a good hard look at him before anyone dare maintain that, to save lives, it might be necessary to inflict unbearable pain on a fellow human being. Perhaps the optimist in me hoped that this damaged Argentine man could, all these decades later, help shatter the perverse innocence of contemporary Americans, just as he had burst the bubble of ignorance protecting the young Chilean I used to be, someone who back then had encountered torture mainly through books and movies and newspaper reports.

That is not, however, the only lesson that today's ruthless world can learn from that distant man condemned to shiver forever.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 09:47 AM
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1. I'll never forgive or forget
what happened in Chile. The US government has been responsible for torture for decades except that in those days it was covert not overt.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 09:49 AM
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2. A must read, I agree. Here's my favorite part:
I will leave others to claim that torture, in fact, does not work, that confessions obtained under duress -- such as that extracted from the heaving body of that poor Argentine braggart in some Santiago cesspool in 1973 -- are useless. Or to contend that the United States had better not do that to anyone in our custody lest someday another nation or entity or group decides to treat our prisoners the same way.

I find these arguments -- and there are many more -- to be irrefutable. But I cannot bring myself to use them, for fear of honoring the debate by participating in it.


Can't the United States see that when we allow someone to be tortured by our agents, it is not only the victim and the perpetrator who are corrupted, not only the "intelligence" that is contaminated, but also everyone who looked away and said they did not know, everyone who consented tacitly to that outrage so they could sleep a little safer at night, all the citizens who did not march in the streets by the millions to demand the resignation of whoever suggested, even whispered, that torture is inevitable in our day and age, that we must embrace its darkness?

Are we so morally sick, so deaf and dumb and blind, that we do not understand this? Are we so fearful, so in love with our own security and steeped in our own pain, that we are really willing to let people be tortured in the name of America? Have we so lost our bearings that we do not realize that each of us could be that hapless Argentine who sat under the Santiago sun, so possessed by the evil done to him that he could not stop shivering?
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:23 AM
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3. He's such an amazing writer.
I had no idea he was teaching at Duke. Congress and the White House have put a stamp of approval on torture. We have set the standard to an all new low and when American's are captured and tortured there will be no recourse.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:30 AM
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4. To me, it's not even an issue of consequences. It's just evil.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 11:19 AM
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6. Evil, plain and simple.
You are correct. What has become of this world under this administration? Never in history have we been made so vulnerable by acts of "law" that serve only to further inflame those who wish to bring us harm.

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femmedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 07:49 AM
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7. Yes. Death and the Maiden is incredible. n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:57 AM
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5. All who support torture should have their progeny on the front lines
exposed to the ramifications of this shameful national policy they support, but I bet not a one has or or will have.
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